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I dont think so because as @DarkDragonMedeus stated the speed of the debris scattering is already lowballed to "average" to compensate for that but a CGM probably knows better
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DBS: Destruction of Planet Vegeta, Frieza Upgrade
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Clover? What'd I do???
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Calculation threads also take the 48hr period as well right?
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I think he meant klolClover? What'd I do???
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My bad I wanted to write KLOLClover? What'd I do???
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Couldn't find such a formula for relativistic KE so until something like that comes up (DT didn't greenlight it AFAIK), we stick with the Relativistic KE calculator.
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KLOL506; please stop posting. I never said I don't have an argument to post. I'm going to delete the last few comments that are derailing the hell out of this thread. If you've got a problem with me, take it elsewhere for the love of God.
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Yeah you use 1/12th
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For planet destruction calcs? No, that's never been the case. We have a ton of planet destruction calcs involving flying debris that use 1/2
Edit: It's been explained why in further detail above
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Can't do that for relativistic KE, and your 1/6 suggestion hasn't been accepted by DT, if anything we were waiting for an alternative from him, but uh... he dipped so tough luck.
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Could you not just multiply the KE value by the Lorentz factor (the multiplier that tells you how much higher your KE would be than its Newtonian counterpart) at whatever speed it is?
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You mean, like:
(mass / 12 x velocity²) x Lorentz Factor for omnidirectional relativistic KE?
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Yeah, pretty much.
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I'm down for that, can't speak for everyone though.
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The Lorentz factor multiplier appears to be barely a 1x multiplier using the speed difference according to this calculator.
So KE: (1/12) * 5.083E+26 * 15606258.2721^2 = 1.0316596e+40 J or 2.4657256 quettatons of TNT, High 5-A+
I can't evaluate my own calc so make that of what you will.
So KE: (1/12) * 5.083E+26 * 15606258.2721^2 = 1.0316596e+40 J or 2.4657256 quettatons of TNT, High 5-A+
I can't evaluate my own calc so make that of what you will.
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Low 4-C begins at 7.505 Quettatons, I believe, so that result would be High 5-A.
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Makes sense. I mean, even for a 2x multiplier, you need to be going 86.6% SoL. The multiplier is mostly negligible under 50% SoL.
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Corrected.
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The energy is more spread out in this case.
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Wouldn't all of this warrant a different blog with multiple methods out of which one method gets accepted? i feel like the currently accepted one with 2 CGM votes and an admin vote should be kept as it is
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No? You'd only need to dump in the correction and job's done.
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I think Planet Vegeta being much bigger than Earth seems accurate since it's a rocky planet with 10 times Earth's gravity. Usually Planets like this are pretty big, especially when Earth is specifically mentioned by King Cold to be very small and insignificant (unlike Vegeta)
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Planet destruction calcs involving flying debris don’t use any alterations to the KE or relativistic KE formula, it’s that simple. I don’t think this is the thread to try and change that
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Perhaps this could help in determining the size (or not) of planet Vegeta by comparing it to its moons.
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I did NOT expect it to send the entire thing, I thought it would only send the link-
Nvm, that's an unknown planet, carry on
Nvm, that's an unknown planet, carry on
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We don’t know the size of any of the moons, compared to the point of comparison we have between Planet Vegeta and a Super Dragon Ball
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this is what I was trying to say. That seems like a topic for a staff discussion thread standard change rather than something to be decided on the fly for a calc that has always been done using the same method
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Toeiverse: Freeza destroys Planet Vegeta
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I found this calc, which apparently compares the size between Earth and Vegeta?
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I never thought about using GT, wowToeiverse: Freeza destroys Planet Vegeta
I found this calc, which apparently compares the size between Earth and Vegeta?
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Toeiverse stuff can’t be used for main canon calcs, if I’m not mistaken
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Yeah the other interpretation of planet vegeta we had before is fine
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Even though both Toriyama and Shueisha consider GT to be canon?
I mean, GT is even on the official timeline by Shueisha
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Even though it's regarded as an alternate timeline, we can't use exclusive sizes from Toei for canonToeiverse: Freeza destroys Planet Vegeta
I found this calc, which apparently compares the size between Earth and Vegeta?
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Also not to mention planet Vegeta in the broly movie seems to look to have way more water then earth does, thus it seems more in line with a water world that are normally larger then earth is
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unfortunately we can’t really use it. while the cosmologies are the same it doesn’t mean planet sizes are gonna be the same too
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It’d only be in use for Toei iterations of the characters. So you could get a revision for Toei Frieza, Bardock, etc and scale from there if you wanted, but you couldn’t apply it to canon.
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It's the only actual reference we have to Planet Vegeta's size; it's either this or no true reference. Pick your poison.
Also, why would planet sizes change in a different timeline? Occum's razor would suggest they are the same more than likely (Also pretty sure GT splits from Post-Buu Saga, which is tied to the main timeline anyways)
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We're not having this discussion now, this was already decided before and trying to overturn it would require it's own thread)
Also, Toeiverse deviates from the main timeline much earlier than that. Filler episodes and movies comprise such deviations
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