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DBS: 2-C Universe (Accepted)

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for the same reason we don't scale every tier 2 character to immeasurable via destroying a space time
Good thing other characters are not DBS. Your only arguments are "Other characters don't so DBS shouldn't" doesn't work since context, verse mechanics and the way feats are done are vastly different. Plus, DB has shown many times that they can react and even outsped each other's shockwaves. And we literally see elder kai looking and reacting to those shockwaves.
Anyway, let's leave this for another time.
 
Guys, let's list the characters that will be scaled here so that the profiles can be opened, there are more than 50 profiles and we need help with all of them.
I think it all can move to general discussion thread for DB.
not for this type of thing, plus it doesn't fit the justification anyway
Let's leave the manga speed scaling for another time
Not like its not already accepted that DB characters scale to the shockwaves and AoE of their attacks
Time to work let's go
 
Good thing other characters are not DBS. Your only arguments are "Other characters don't so DBS shouldn't" doesn't work since context, verse mechanics and the way feats are done are vastly different. Plus, DB has shown many times that they can react and even outsped each other's shockwaves. And we literally see elder kai looking and reacting to those shockwaves.
Anyway, let's leave this for another time.
let us discuss this in the db general discussion thread
 
im ngl, dbs manga characters not scaling to the shockwaves is not right, even beerus at the beginning of the manga would wipe out the macrocosm with one singular ki attack, not even shockwaves lol, somebody should make a crt on that or add it to the scaling chain in the current one.
 

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"Incredible ! He's stronger than I thought. We were right to call the fight off this guy could wipe out the entire universe"
Janemba was extremely casual when he exerted that Ki when he received that statement, like way more casual then when Goku and Janemba started to actually fight. Because Goku was at least somewhat relative to Fat Janemba before entering SSJ3 (in SSJ2 he actually made Janemba use his powers against him and managed to hurt him).
 

1:04
"Incredible ! He's stronger than I thought. We were right to call the fight off this guy could wipe out the entire universe"
Janemba was extremely casual when he exerted that Ki when he received that statement, like way more casual then when Goku and Janemba started to actually fight. Because Goku was at least somewhat relative to Fat Janemba before entering SSJ3 (in SSJ2 he actually made Janemba use his powers against him and managed to hurt him.

This was said in Other World so Goku definitely means more than just the Living World

In other words, 2-C
 

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"Incredible ! He's stronger than I thought. We were right to call the fight off this guy could wipe out the entire universe"
Janemba was extremely casual when he exerted that Ki when he received that statement, like way more casual then when Goku and Janemba started to actually fight. Because Goku was at least somewhat relative to Fat Janemba before entering SSJ3 (in SSJ2 he actually made Janemba use his powers against him and managed to hurt him).

So basically that makes the minimum of hell being the size of the universe, as we have explicit quotes that he was going to destroy the universe and was in hell.
 
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