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not for this type of thing, plus it doesn't fit the justification anywayGood thing Dragon Ball already has justification for it
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not for this type of thing, plus it doesn't fit the justification anywayGood thing Dragon Ball already has justification for it
do you really want to scale the elder kai to a feat made by a goku who is several maybe even thousands of time faster than when the buu saga? that becomes circular really fast
I think it all can move to general discussion thread for DB.
Because the CRT is kind of already completed, so to give the 48 hours for the application, some debates are already advancingWhy y'all talking about speed? Why not wait until after this thread is applied. This is just adding unnecessary discussion to this thread.
Good thing other characters are not DBS. Your only arguments are "Other characters don't so DBS shouldn't" doesn't work since context, verse mechanics and the way feats are done are vastly different. Plus, DB has shown many times that they can react and even outsped each other's shockwaves. And we literally see elder kai looking and reacting to those shockwaves.for the same reason we don't scale every tier 2 character to immeasurable via destroying a space time
Guys, let's list the characters that will be scaled here so that the profiles can be opened, there are more than 50 profiles and we need help with all of them.
I think it all can move to general discussion thread for DB.
not for this type of thing, plus it doesn't fit the justification anyway
Let's leave the manga speed scaling for another time
Time to work let's goNot like its not already accepted that DB characters scale to the shockwaves and AoE of their attacks
let us discuss this in the db general discussion threadGood thing other characters are not DBS. Your only arguments are "Other characters don't so DBS shouldn't" doesn't work since context, verse mechanics and the way feats are done are vastly different. Plus, DB has shown many times that they can react and even outsped each other's shockwaves. And we literally see elder kai looking and reacting to those shockwaves.
Anyway, let's leave this for another time.
Thats because no timeframe. Don't need a timeframe when it's inf speed.yeah, but the manga character do not scale to the shockwaves, their mftl+ comes from another thing entirely
nope, there was a calculation for the speed of the shockwaves, there was a thread on that and it was rejected for the reasons i am saying right nowThats because no timeframe. Don't need a timeframe when it's inf speed.
Thing of the past because their is no reason they shouldn't scale.nope, there was a calculation for the speed of the shockwaves, there was a thread on that and it was rejected for the reasons i am saying right now
i mean, i don't anything changed from then to nowThing of the past because their is no reason they shouldn't scale.
Can you link me the thread? I want to read the arguments.It was basically just pulling a few strings for GT and the Z movie to be canon for the main timeline, as an alternate timeline.
That are far more than that dudeList of characters that will be updated to 2-C
Son Goku (DBS Anime)
Son Goku (DBS Manga)
Son Goku (Dragon Ball GT)
Fusion Zamasu (DBS Anime)
It’s actually different, anime has Beerus and Goku outspeeding their own expansive attacks and shockwaves during that fight, manga doesn’t afaik.Yes its possible bro
What do you mean we don't scale that
The DBS anime did
Yes, I'm putting it little by little, if you can help it will be goodThat are far more than that dude
I mean it's backed up with Goku in the dub stating Fat Janemba was capable of destroying the universe by Goku.Guys, we have to discuss Majin Buu's upgrade and who scales him to 2-C with the destruction of the universe
well there you go lmao, wow 2-C janembaI mean it's backed up with Goku in the dub stating Fat Janemba was capable of destroying the universe by Goku.
Can you bring the scan?I mean it's backed up with Goku in the dub stating Fat Janemba was capable of destroying the universe by Goku.
there is no need, everyone in dbs scale to this due to BoG being the basis of the scaling chainYes, I'm putting it little by little, if you can help it will be good
So I don't need to keep quoting the profiles?there is no need, everyone in dbs scale to this due to BoG being the basis of the scaling chain
not really? only the closed ones so that they can be open againSo I don't need to keep quoting the profiles?
I understandnot really? only the closed ones so that they can be open again
Its still 2-B for nowalso how big do we consider the full dragonball cosmology? Since if its 2B it would probably need to be revised to have a possibly 2A
That's because of Clover's Fusion Zamasu CRTwhy is goku L2C?
We need a possibly 2A revision thenIts still 2-B for now
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"Incredible ! He's stronger than I thought. We were right to call the fight off this guy could wipe out the entire universe"
Janemba was extremely casual when he exerted that Ki when he received that statement, like way more casual then when Goku and Janemba started to actually fight. Because Goku was at least somewhat relative to Fat Janemba before entering SSJ3 (in SSJ2 he actually made Janemba use his powers against him and managed to hurt him.
why so?also how big do we consider the full dragonball cosmology? Since if its 2B it would probably need to be revised to have a possibly 2A
don't we currently view the db universe as possibly infinite,why so?
wells thats not right, it should be 2-C starting all the way from battle of gods, the person is upgrading profiles right before a big change is about to applyThat's because of Clover's Fusion Zamasu CRT
Its not making things any difficult nglwells thats not right, it should be 2-C starting all the way from battle of gods, the person is upgrading profiles right before a big change is about to apply
1:04
"Incredible ! He's stronger than I thought. We were right to call the fight off this guy could wipe out the entire universe"
Janemba was extremely casual when he exerted that Ki when he received that statement, like way more casual then when Goku and Janemba started to actually fight. Because Goku was at least somewhat relative to Fat Janemba before entering SSJ3 (in SSJ2 he actually made Janemba use his powers against him and managed to hurt him).