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Still not seeing it. Again, pulling blood out of body or just shutting off bioelectric flow throughout the body.
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Darth Vader vs Naruto Uzamaki
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Sub atomic matter manipulation could work however Naruto has sage of six paths mode and kyuubi at once pretty sure he can just turn into kyuubi and nothing Vader would do would damage him.
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Good point, chakra isn't made of matter
Good point, chakra isn't made of matter
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Meh I'll give it to Vader due to overall hax and speed advantage he'd eventually win.
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The Everlasting
Looking at Vaders profile. Vader is continent level, because he is stronger than his peak as Anakin. Anakin is continent level, because he is stronger than Count Dooku (proof?). Count Dooku is continent level... because?
Looking at Vaders profile. Vader is continent level, because he is stronger than his peak as Anakin. Anakin is continent level, because he is stronger than Count Dooku (proof?). Count Dooku is continent level... because?
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He's one of the most powerful Jedi ever produced by the Order, and that's saying a lot when Revan, Exar Kun and Thon were members of the Order. It literally says it right on his profile.
I get the feeling you're now trying to disagree with his rankings because of this thread, since you haven't bothered to bring this up before. It felt the same with Lapis vs. Naruto.
I get the feeling you're now trying to disagree with his rankings because of this thread, since you haven't bothered to bring this up before. It felt the same with Lapis vs. Naruto.
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And he did that in the Mewtwo vs Sasuke.
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Wait a minute, Continent level Dooku? He has no feats even close to that. I remember a few months ago he was ony listed as small City level. It doesn't really matter either way though considering Naruto is Moon level and Vader can only win through hax anyway.
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Bruh, it's all about powerscaling, look at Thon's page and know that Dooku was considered one of the most powerful Jedi ever produced by the order. Also, a few months ago is not today now is it?
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I actually did a calculatio of Lapis's speed a while ago. If 1 episode equals 1 day, Lapis's speed is only 69c, not MFTL+...The Everlasting said:
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with my explanation from above you clearly see that he doesnt have moon-lvl durability automatically, speedblitzing will work on him :IUncleSpaceman said:
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On the topic of Vader attacking internally...
While internal durability is different than conventional durability, like someone punching you could do jack shit, but them punching your heart could be detrimental, Naruto's internal body would have at least durability exceeding a normal human heart. Hell, if his organs couldn't take damage, then he could be killed very easily, as his brain or heart would explode from the force of moon level attacks.
This is futher validated due to the fact that Naruto has chakra in his body amping his durability, which doesn't just extend to his skin and mucles.
So while Vader isn't just going to casually rip Naruto's insides out, it's still an advantage that Vader has. The force is practically omnipresent, giving Vader access to more vulnerable areas of Naruto. Including his brain.
Force hax is a big deal.
And oh lord, Naruto vs Lapis was a ******* funny thread.
While internal durability is different than conventional durability, like someone punching you could do jack shit, but them punching your heart could be detrimental, Naruto's internal body would have at least durability exceeding a normal human heart. Hell, if his organs couldn't take damage, then he could be killed very easily, as his brain or heart would explode from the force of moon level attacks.
This is futher validated due to the fact that Naruto has chakra in his body amping his durability, which doesn't just extend to his skin and mucles.
So while Vader isn't just going to casually rip Naruto's insides out, it's still an advantage that Vader has. The force is practically omnipresent, giving Vader access to more vulnerable areas of Naruto. Including his brain.
Force hax is a big deal.
And oh lord, Naruto vs Lapis was a ******* funny thread.
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^Preeetty much this.
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Agreed with Perpetual.
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So should this be added to Vader's victories and Naruto's losses?
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I see that Darthvader has LIGHTSPEED reactions correct? but isn't his running speed Hypersonic+?
So if Naruto were to send over dozens of continent busting rasenshirukens, and Darthvader get away??
Thats my question..
So if Naruto were to send over dozens of continent busting rasenshirukens, and Darthvader get away??
Thats my question..
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Also has force ever been shown to catch anyone moving MHS+? Or is it since its omnipresence it doesn't "catch up its already there".. cause if thats the case thats cool
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^i would think so, it makes the most sense afterall ^_^
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No, Vader has no way of injuring someone with at least Moon Level durability, Mind Hax won't work because of the BijuuHyperception said:
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No... the reason Jyuken (gentle fist) is effective is because it knocks out the chakra points... not because the inside of the body has no durability. Chakra is spread throughout the body, durability comes from chakra... so the inside of Naruto's body should have Moon Level durability. Himawari knocking out Naruto is a gag from an omake chapter.Phantasys said:
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The Bijuu only stop genjutsu by preventing the re-direction of charkra in the victims centeral nervous system or by telling them their under a genjutsu so they can break it, Vader's mind hax doesn't require charkra to work.UncleSpaceman said:
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Chakra's used to reinforce durability, its presence doesn't guarantee it directly. Juken bypasses durability at least partially because it can be used to attack the organs directly. If chakra made you as strong on the inside then Juke users wouldn't be able to kill a guy with only two fingers. Naruto getting one shotted by a child was still written by Kishi, omake doesn't mean non-canon.UncleSpaceman said:
In any case Vader one shots by force crush on Naruto's heart or nervous system...hell he could probably force crush the chakra system itself.
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^agree, i think there was once a statement from kakashi or neji that it isnt possible to train the inner organs (it was in the chunin exam), this is the reason why the gentle fist was so incredible dangerous ^_^
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Vader one-shots on Naruto's heart or nervous system? What If Naruto decides to 5,000 clone barrage him with Moon Level clones like he was going to do to Kaguya before she switched dimensions. I'm pretty sure Vader can't handle that.
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Vader could blitz before that happensNarutoguy304 said:
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DV is lightspeed, he could easily evade any attack of naruto and cursh his brain via force-hax (since it is "omnipresent") ^_^Narutoguy304 said:
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From what I've read, Darth Vader has LS reactions, not LS running speed. His running speed is shown to be hypersonic...
2) That chapter where Hima knocked out Naruto was a gag/omake chapter. Yeah it cannon, but just as many other things its an outlier. Don't try to downplay..
2) That chapter where Hima knocked out Naruto was a gag/omake chapter. Yeah it cannon, but just as many other things its an outlier. Don't try to downplay..
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His running speed is relativistic+Zerzavyx98 said:
Read the OP
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naruto wins
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I'm gonna have to go with Naruto for this one. I don't see Darth Vader winning w/ continental+ AP when Naruto has moon durability.
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Vader makes up that with hax. Vader is extremely faster than Naruto.Zerzavyx98 said:
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Vader outspeeds Naruto with hax that also is bypassed by Naruto on the regular...
Naruto has the DC and AP to blow off Vader in one hit
Naruto has the DC and AP to blow off Vader in one hit
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Alright.
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No... it has not been eastablished. Himawari kocking out Naruto was a gag... Gentle Fist is a thing that takes years to learn... Himawari hasn't even started at the academy yet... In canon, Himawari should not even know how to use Gentle Fist.Phantasys said:
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^It doesn't matter Vader is faster and from what i heard he has haxs to bypass durability with the force haxs. And most of the times people with haxs like Vader are gonna get defeated if the opponent has better haxs or speed but Naruto is slower and bearly has any haxs so yea.
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