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Darkstalkers Upgrade

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From ClassicGameGuys via Skype:


"Pyron flies to Hellstorm:

http://youtu.be/qdu1rKcIoyI?t=4 As you can see, Pyron launches himself through the earth and displaces a fuckton of the ocean, the water of which then gets vapourized. Should be a planet level bit feat for mortal Pyron, but I am more interested in the speed As we all know know, Hellstrom is Pyron's home planet. Presuming his flight takes 2 seconds or so, since that's how long it takes after he drills through the earth for the Hellstorm text to pop up?

Well, we know that Pyron is 400,000 light years in length in his true form going by his bio, and that he had not consumed any stars (crushed some, yes) Since the average planet is Jupiter sized, let's see how many planets it would take to get him to be this long (also keep in mind that this is lowballing the **** out of how many planets Pyron absorbed as I am presuming he is a single line)

Diameter of Jupiter = 1.47795191e-8 400000 / 1.47795191e-8 = 2.70644801e13 planets absorbed There are 100,000,000,000 planets in the Milky Way 2.70644801e13 / 100000000000 = 270.644801 galaxies Distance between galaxies = 2.2 million light years or 2.08131625e22 meters Presuming that he flew in a straight line through the galaxies (likely not but this should somewhat negate the lowball I just performed) 270.644801 * 2.08131625e22 = 5.63297422e24 meters crossed 5.63297422e24 / 2 = 2.81648711e24 m/s or 9.39478974e15c which is nearly 10 quadrillion times faster than the speed of light and this is just for Mortal Pyron, meaning that this scales to Demitri, Morrigan, Lilith, Belial, Jedah, etc A Huitzil unit also flew from Planet Hellstorm to earth in 100 years, which would be 5954185.61c or 6 million times FTL http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/d/nwhui.htm" Speed upgrade and- "Size of Jedah's Jiganshi: I believe it was accepted to be solar system level. However it's actually bigger than that.... much bigger

Constellations visible in it:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?u...s=1478206949204&rm=157981b00f53ef54&zw&atsh=1

A large number of celestial bodies (stars) in Anakaris' stage:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?u...s=1478206949204&rm=157981b00f53ef54&zw&atsh=1

A replica of the sun in Morrigan's chateau: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?u...s=1478206949205&rm=157981b00f53ef54&zw&atsh=1

A star behind Q-Bee in the intro sequence:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?u...s=1478206949205&rm=157981b00f53ef54&zw&atsh=1

And to top it all off? If you kill Jedah as Felicia, Lilith states that the dimension is being destroyed because Jedah's existence is what maintains it in the first place:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?u...s=1478206949205&rm=157981b00f53ef54&zw&atsh=1

Jedah created this realm, of note. So, in all likelihood? Galaxy level Jedah Dohma which is consistent with him and Belial being hyped as much as they are, given that Pyron is a thing as well"

Size of constellations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WR_46 13274.8481 light years or 13.275 kLY Average galaxy size: http://teacherlink.ed.usu.edu/tlnas...s/imagine/docs/ask_astro/answers/001205a.html
 
Jedah considered Morrigan a threat so yeah. It scales to Morrigan, Jedah and Belial. Can't think of anyone else though since Jedah curbstomped Demitri
 
I may consider the speed feat and the galaxy feat. Jedah created the realm by using Ozom's soul as a the base along many souls as a chain reaction which were sent to the shintai, however the same Jedah said that the souls may become part of him, perhaps because of his connection with the Shintai.
Zabel vs Jedah
 
He would still not scale to the galaxy feat (True Form is galaxy level though) as there, well, put simply, isn't any proof of him fighting anyone on that level. Yes, hes fought Morrigan before but it's unknown if in between games, Morrigan got stronger
 
We currently scaled the whole A-Rank, S-Rank Darkstalkers cast out of Jedah blowing up Makai with a gesture. I'm unsure if we can do the same for the dimension's creation.

The scaling went from Morrigan + Demitri + PIS defeating Mortal Pyron, with Demitri absorbing Mortal Pyron but still being inferior to Morrigan in the new game, and from how Jedah is superior to Mortal Pyron and lost to Morrigan.
 
I believe Demitri's ending is the canon one. In which case, the series ends on the note that the villain won if that's the case.
 
Nah, not true. Morrigan defeated Jedah and fused with Lilith. Demitri's ending is simply that he defeats Morrigan and she turns into stone so as to not be devoured / brainwashed by him. It has nothing to do with Jedah's plot or Morrigan's main arc.
 
I'd like more input. I'm uncertain on how we'd handle everyone who isn't Jedah, Morrigan or Lilith. Would mortal Pyron be Multi Solar System level or Possibly Galaxy level based on this?

It all seems rather inconsistent, and wasn't the dimension Shintai's?
 
Mortal Form Pyron got mind-screwed by Jedah in his own ending. I really don't see how he as any business scaling
 
The fact that Demitri has his strength in Vampire Savior which renders him comparable to Morrigan somewhat coming from him having absorbed Mortal Pyron
 
I don't agree with this upgrade, Jedah created the dimension by using Ozom soul and other souls. Jedah was connected to the Shintai, this is why if he dies all the dimension including the shintai will be destroyed as well.
 
And absorbing all the countless souls caused Jedah to go "comatose" for 100 years due to being unable to handle the power.

Also, even if this goes through, the upgrade would go to 4-A, not 3-C.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Also, even if this goes through, the upgrade would go to 4-A, not 3-C.
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It means nothing if the stages have constellations, the stages have no connections to Jedah or the Shintai.
 
The first one is not important because judging a feat from a loading screen and stage is inconsistent, Pyron did not instanly jumped to earth, he was close and slowly went to earth for the reawakening of the Huitzil's and because he wanted to fight strong opponents at right time (he previosly visited earth but spared it for this reason). Jedah may had recreated entire locations but they could be solid illusions or constellations/sun without consistence, after all Jedah only wanted to gather souls, nothing else.
 
Pretty sure we don't upgrade stuff solely based on background stuff like stars. Otherwise, 4-A Final Fantasy, 4-A DMC etc.
 
Can someone tell me the basis of the calc? Does Pyron needs to eats all of those planets at once for him to grow to this size? Because this situation seems dubious to me.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
However. Huitzil's feat is relevant. MFTL+ Darkstalkers is possible.
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Nope, Planet Hellstorm was destroyed and consumed by Pyron in the canon, Pyron was defeated on earth and in not planet hellstorm for this reason, also that is only stage made for Pyron by the dev's.
 
I agree that we tend to rate backgrounds as unreliable without clarifications, and that even if this upgrade goes through, it would only be 4-A.

However, given that true form Pyron is 3-C, and Shintai Jedah is listed as possibly 3-A, this lends credence to the scale of the claim.
 
Upgrading people to MFTL+ given the speed of Mortal Pyron is possible. I will never understand why making the distinction between Travel and Combat speed. However, accepting 4-A Jedah would lead to Mortal Pyron also being 4-A, and that just seems odd to me.
 
Okay. Never mind then.

I made a staff thread about whether or not we should revise our rules regarding flight and combat speed, as I am also turning uncertain, but our members seemed to think that they should remain as they are.

You can revive the thread if you wish, however.
 
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