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Darkseid vs Android 21

Theglassman12 said:
A machine that she uses in combat. And you do know that other matches with characters that has a go-to hax have their matches added before right, like the meme girls, Golden King, etc.
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Eh, i mean it would be a pretty cheap and easy win for her though. She is already pretty well off without it imo, and she leads with it right off the bat 9/10(if not 10/10), and is an instant win for her. That almost seems stompy to me. (Unless of course darkseid has something to even the playing field/ counter it like i said).
 
Again, the people I listed above have an instant win technique that they use right away, and no one's calling them stomps.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Again, the people I listed above have an instant win technique that they use right away, and no one's calling them stomps.
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Alright then. I guess 21 via insta win W A V E S. I also forgot that darkseid could one shot as well, so i guess its a "whoever uses their abilities first" kinda thing.
 
Ah, well. SInce apparently, Darksied's Omega Beam need to hit 21, while she just has to press a button, she is more likely to be the winner for me, and even if they are homing attacks, she can just teleport to dodge and gain enoguh time to press the button before the beams actually hit her.

So yeah, 21 for these reasons (for now).
 
Darkseid via Celestial judges reasons. I highly doubt her waves can affect the omega effect and the connection to The Source. Also 21s machine powernull seems to be delivered through waves which darkseid has shown immunity to. Here he's immune to waves that cause fear inducmentX

And besides even if it did effect him, Z fighters could still use their ki even if their power was nerfed. He would still be able to hax her, after all he could use omega sanction weakened by radion and basically on his deathbed
 
The reason above for 21 is that her wave will leave Darkseid unable to use any abilities which is a total lie since Goku and crew were able to use ki attack. So most of these votes are invalid. Darkseid for Zen and Celestials reasons.
 
@Bepo

That's a half-truth fallacy. Goku and crew were able to use Ki attacks only after Bulma built a machine to counteract the waves.
 
Let me ask this since I'm not very informed about Omega Beams in the comics. Has anyone nullified them in ways other than plot armor like Superman or Wonder Woman's bracelets? I'm getting the idea here that if he were to fire his beams anyway, 21's machine would just make them disappear.
 
Natse said:
Let me ask this since I'm not very informed about Omega Beams in the comics. Has anyone nullified them in ways other than plot armor like Superman or Wonder Woman's bracelets? I'm getting the idea here that if he were to fire his beams anyway, 21's machine would just make them disappear.
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If Darksied just get slammed on the ground and lose consciousness after the button press, I doubt that the Omega beams would still go.
 
DMB 1 said:
If Darksied just get slammed on the ground and lose consciousness after the button press, I doubt that the Omega beams would still go.
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They would he died and sanction still hit batman after the fact.
 
Zensum said:
DMB 1 said:
If Darksied just get slammed on the ground and lose consciousness after the button press, I doubt that the Omega beams would still go.
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They would he died and sanction still hit batman after the fact.
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Ebven if it would, it would be inconlcusive.
 
DMB 1 said:
Ebven if it would, it would be inconlcusive.
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This is just if the waves could incap, which I dont think they can. Darkseid has shown some immunity to wave based attacks. X
 
@Theglass Already discussed power null, no feats of it effecting something like his the connection to The Source or the omega realm. Even if it is just a nerf in power his several hax would still work.
 
There's no evidence that those things grants immunity to Android 21's Wave either. Also, just because you have a connection to those things doesn't mean you're suddenly immune to just getting the hell knocked out/falling asleep.
 
@Akreious Those things are out of the machines scope, they have only weakened ki/energy levels of characters I dont think they can affect empowerment that comes from higher realms/sources. As for incap, hes shown immunity to stimulti that would have induced fear through waves. I'm sure knockout waves wouldn't bother him much either.
 
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