Darkseid vs Android 21

[Celestial_Judge]

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Minor error I put two of the same pictures up.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

You also failed to tell me how the energy waves will get pass his beams where's it literally turns something into nothing.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Does it turn Non-corporeal things that cover a planet into nothing? No.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Her body isn't non-corporeal, darkseids is however.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

I'm also waiting on a response to the time manipulation and the endless realities still....

 

[Dziga]

Darkseid stares.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Her body isn't non-corporeal, darkseids is however.

The waves are as well however.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

So please tell me how she will hit him first through reality warping, time manipulation, and omega sanction all at the same time.

Also there isn't any concrete evidence that his beams can't erase non-corporeal objects. If anything it would make sense that he should since he is non-corporeal himself.

 

[Theglassman12]

He does NOT have non-corporeal in this state. Also you're assuming that he can hit non-corporeal things without any proof.

Show me proof that his reality warping and his time manipulation is his go to move for him, cause you only showed me one example. If that's the only example of him using those hax, then it doesn't really have much weight.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

So please tell me how she will hit him first through reality warping, time manipulation, and omega sanction all at the same time.
Also there isn't any concrete evidence that his beams can't erase non-corporeal objects. If anything it would make sense that he should since he is non-corporeal himself.

Burden of Proof my friend

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Scroll up he sent SuperMan to the past and Superboy to the future without that form.....

 

[Theglassman12]

Is there more proof that he uses that ability, cause if not, then it's not gonna matter much.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

I just gave you proof, I'm not going to go look for more if you can't even give me a defense on how she will get away from it.

Most of the time his omega beams are more than enough which is why it's not used as much as his time manipulation.

It was shown more than once however, now what will she do?

 

[Theglassman12]

She power nulls him. And again, if he only used those hax ONE time, it's not something noteworthy when it comes to who shoots first.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

So I'm just gonna list what wasn't replied to and wait for someone to reply

Time Manipulation

Matter Manipulation

Omega Sanction (trapped in endless realities)

Also I'm pretty sure his beams are faster than the time it takes for her to get her switch she would be hit given the fact he was able to hit flash once. No one in Dbz Fighters is as fast as him.

Also I would like to know the range of these waves because from what I'm seeing you have to be on the same planet while Darkseid can spam from literally a universe away.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

@theglassman

I gave two scans

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Actually I gave three him ripping himself out a timeline and sending Superboy and SuperMan to the future and past respectively.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I wonder how many times Darkseid has started with those in the decades of his publication history...

 

[Theglassman12]

@Celestial Speed is equalized. Hitting flash isn't a factor in a speed equal match. And when has he shown using the beams from far away.

You sure those two scans aren't just from the same feat? Cause that's what they look like.

 

[Theglassman12]

Actually I gave three him ripping himself out a timeline and sending Superboy and SuperMan to the future and past respectively.

You mean the omega beams? Which is not at all related to his time ripping shenanigan?

 

[Celestial_Judge]

@Theglassman12

Jesus,

MY POINT IS IF THEY CAN LOCK ON TO FLASH WHILE HE IS RUNNING AWAY FROM THEM TRYING HIS BEST TO GET AWAY THEN HE WILL DEFINITELY HIT ANDROID 21 SINCE NO ONE CAN OUT MANEUVER FLASH IN DRAGON BALL FIGHTER Z. IM NOT TALKING ABOUT HIS ACTUAL SPEED.

BOTH DARKSEID AND ANDROID 21 CANT OUT MANEUVER THE FLASH SO THIS IS MY SECOND POINT SHE WILL DEFFINITELY GET HIT.

Darkseid tearing himself out of a timeline


Sending Superboy to the future


Superman to the past


Also @Yobo I gave three examples and it is also listen on his wiki therefore I have given enough proof

I would now like to see what would android 21 do against the things I have listed.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

He literally sent them both to the past and the future though LOL am I being trolled right now?

 

[Theglassman12]

Speed. Is. Equalized. And again, she can teleport away from the attack. I'm talking about his time ripping powers, not his omega beam.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Proof he can do it =/= starting with it.

 

[Huesito88]

Don't omega beams break reality and do some other crazy things to get to the person it was targeting or am I mistaken?

 

[Celestial_Judge]

His omega beam also gave him the time manipulation due to it being able to send people through time.

Also yobo if you scroll up he sent Superboy through time without even hitting him, as soon as he charged he was gone...

His range is universal teleporting wont allow you to get away, you have to actually dodge it.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

@Huesito88

That's why only flash could BARELY dodge it due to his speed just being hax at this point he also tried to help SuperMan get out the way but was still hit.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

His omega beam also gave him the time manipulation due to it being able to send people through time.
Also yobo if you scroll up he sent Superboy through time without even hitting him, as soon as he charged he was gone...

His range is universal teleporting wont allow you to get away, you have to actually dodge it.

Allow me to rephrse that

proof he can do it =/= proving he does it the majority of the time.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

^It will be done. I gave three scans.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Three scans of seperte things tho

 

[Celestial_Judge]

All altered and affected time = time manipulation

Unless you want to give me and argument on how android 21 will Counter all that, I'll be off.

Toodles.

 

[Huesito88]

Which all of those 3 abilities end the fight here, though it's only 3 scan out of what, like 30 years of Darkseids (post crisi) Comic book life

 

[Bombzilla]

Aren't android 21's waves from a machine, not from 21 herself tho?

 

[Celestial_Judge]

^ Yep and I'm pretty sure it's like planetary range while Darkseid has universal range.

 

[Bombzilla]

^ Yep and I'm pretty sure it's like planetary range while Darkseid has universal range.

SBA negates this sadly.... SBA say that they start 4 kilometers away from eachother or something like that.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

^ Would still have to get through time and matter manipulation.

And to be boring I could say Darkseid could send out clones to distract her as they did in the end of the game.

 

[Bombzilla]

I still would like to know why the waves are considered standered on her already. The waves come from a giant machine, and aren't present on her normally. The waves should be in her standered equipment section, not already with her. Also, if the waves are such an obstacle, restrict it. It seems to me that she activates the waves and GG. Darkseid can't do anything here.(not voting for 21, but it seems like that's what it boils down to).

 

[Theglassman12]

If you restrict the machine that she does indeed use in character, then it's not really a legitimate fight. That's like me saying Omega beams should be restricted.

 

[Bombzilla]

If you restrict the machine that she does indeed use in character, then it's not really a legitimate fight. That's like me saying Omega beams should be restricted.

The omega beams are from darkseid himself though. The waves aren't from android 21 herself, but from a machine. And it should be restricted if its an instant win for her. Unless darkseid has something to counter it that is.