The Contractors listed by the scientist's whenever they're talking about Contractors with the ability to decompose / Deconstruct.
My point was just that if this clash doesn't scale them, no clash would.
I'm aware and I have to fully disagree with you on that subject due to your argument being based upon the clash being a reaction. That's a minor aspect, the main aspect is that it's a result of their combined powers.
That wasn't an argument from disbelieve. Peas bouncing around without causing environmental damage have plenty of reason to not be 6-B.
First things first, this isn't 6-B anymore it's 7-C and that was a from a much weaker and much less inexperienced Hei.
I don't see why Hei's durability should have increased by a million times between seasons, but sure, give me some time and we will see if I can find similar stuff in season two.
Season Two Hei is definitely weaker than his previous keys, he's both mentally and physically limited due to his heavy alcoholism, that's literally one of the main points of season 2. At this point he's beyond his prime until he recovers at the end of the series, and 9-A to 7-C isn't a jump of millions of times.
2 tons for an attack is from fodder as of Shikkoku no Hana, as fodder Contractors are capable of such and they aren't stated to be amongst the most powerful of Contractors unlike Hei.
Harvest was more than sure he could have Deconstructed the World and even the Black Flower Contractor scales above that even without the Fragrantment, let's not act like 7-C is an outlier whenever there are feats above that, the Tokyo Explosion from a base Hei, Hei nuking South America, statements from Harvest, etc. It being boosted is irrelevant as that still means feats above 9-A are existent in the verse.
No, the scientist explicitly tells us, and I quote, "I fear if they attack each other head-on, the electrons may react like this in unknown ways". It's pretty clear that what happened is the result of both of their abilities to influence electrons affecting the environment.
Which in turn created a massive explosion due to two matter Manipulatiors clashing with one another, hence why the "Boom!" sound effect is there along with Hei and Harvest both sustaining burns. If it were just a simple phenomenon that decomposes matter then there would be no explosion present and Hei and Harvest wouldn't have been damaged and throw back, there's a present impact force.
It absolutely can, explosions even in real life are capable of dissolving and vaporizing matter. And even then, that's a direct affect of Harvest's power.
In general, if not for that quote you couldn't justify the girl even being atomized instead of simply getting ripped to pieces or pulverized or vaporized.
First of all, she isn't getting ripped to pieces, nor is she getting pulverized as we see the extent of the damage done to her. This is blatantly shown in the visuals so I don't know where your even going with this.
No, the explosion is a phenomenon that happens as a side effect of the decomposition
No it isn't, there is no phenomenon as you say happening, this is never stated to be the case by any of the scientists and even in real life such a phenomenon does not exist. For this to be the case you'd need to have more direct statements of this, which there aren't.
. By all we know there is no reason to believe that it is the cause of it and enough to believe it isn't. It could, for example, be caused by the density change of the decomposed materials.
Which is an assumption that requires even more assumptions than it being a result of the two powers clashing. Electrons interacting with one another do cause massive explosions that in turn deconstruct things, the Deconstruction is something that Harvest does with his ability, nothing else.
I never suggested that this is caused by Harvest's ability alone. As said, it's a result of their abilities resonating.
Which isn't true either as Hei's ability is the ability to slow down the decomposition of matter, which is stated several times in Shikkoku no Hana. It's the explosion itself that causes the decomposition, due to the violent reaction of their powers resonating with one another.
Hei caused nothing of what happened there consciously. It was a chaotic result of the powers interacting in a weird fashion. So the fact that Hei didn't know how to do it on his own, really doesn't matter.
What? They both willing attacked each other, and Hei and Harvest have both fought plenty of times before this, which is why the Scientists of PANDORA didn't want them fighting in the first place because they've fought before.
Hei not knowing how to deconstruct matter at this point absolutely matters given the context.
Well, they stood in the middle of a matter dissolving phenomenon and didn't die. That's the fact. You can't explain how they survived electron-matter hax stuff by durability.
Yeah no, it's not just a random phenomenon that destroy's matter, it's a direct result of the explosion that ensued which is what caused that amount of damage for a reason. Hei is blatantly not resistant to matter Manipulation until he uses his Electricity to cover his body which he didn't do here.
They tanked the explosion point blank, if there wasn't a KE of the explosion then neither Hei or Harvest would have been flung back back burns and marks.
What you're suggesting is like saying that someone tanking a spatial slash should scale to its destructive output, because they haven't demonstrated a resistance and hence should have tanked it by durability. That makes no sense, since you can't tank it via durability. That's why it's hax.
First of all, this is a massive false comparison as your comparing two very different forms of hax, and that depends entirely on the spatial manipulation at question. Some forms of spatial manipulation do indeed have AP to it, in some cases its both resistance and durability.
This isn't a hax secondly so this point is moot, this is an explosion, I.E physical force and not hax.
So we have do inference based on what we're shown, which is that they somehow survived clashing with their abilities. It's not hard to imagine either. We know Hei can resist Harvest's stuff to an extend and since Harvest wasn't shocked to death here, he can clearly to some extent resist Hei's ability as well. Hei resists via his ability, so Harvest likely does the same.
Hei explicitly doesn't resist Harvest's ability without his Electricity armor which wasn't used here, this argument goes against what is shown in the manga to a tremendous extent. Once more, the explosion itself is the cause of the amount of damage, nothing else. Hei's electricity slows the process of decomposition, and can only resist it to a degree when using his ability on his body to engulf it which isn't the case here.
Yeah, if they fight they're nukes. If they don't fight, Harvest still is dangerous, just not to the same level as when they resonate.
Which is why the result is halved, and Harvest has shown feats that are around 8-A making it consistent. (Such as him deconstructing multiple levels of a building in one attack that even extended deep into the sewer system.) Hei caused the Tokyo Explosion by himself while not amped by the Fragrantment which would also support this.
Considering they know who Harvest is, I doubt they thought the dude wouldn't spread destruction on his own.
They know who he is but not the full extent of his abilities, they have the bare minimum on what he can do hence why they didn't even know he could deconstruct gas and other substances.
And Harvest's power comes from the Black Flower, something that originates from the Gate which explicitly cannot be analyzed even by the top Scientists in the verse so the PANDORA scientist who are in canon less knowledgeable than the top are likely wrong in their observation regarding Harvest, hence why he also broke free from their capture since they didn't know what he was actually capable of.
Their powers resonating causes a phenomenon, which neither of them alone normally causes (again, only if they clash electrons behave that weird according to scientist guy). So it isn't as simple as just adding two energy beams to each other.
Said phenomenon was never stated, this is a conclusion that you yourself came to based upon a vague statement from a scientist who has little to no accurate information on Harvest.
Appeal to Popularity isn't always a fallacy, typically speaking whenever there's a true perception and a wrong perception there's a side that agrees with the former based upon actual information. This is the classic
Argument from Fallacy
