Dark Souls Speed Downgrade

[Mr. Bambu]

No, but I seem to recall hearing the same somewhere, though to be honest I do not know where.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Then I think it's mentioned in Seath's lore somewhere. My point being, if someone taught Gwyn about lightning, then he didn't create it so we really can't automatically scale lightning miracles to real lightning. I think that was one of the arguments, right?

 

[Ogbunabali]

That's not really true though. I don't recall it ever being mentioned anywhere that Seath, or anyone for that matter, taught Gwyn lightning miracles unless you have some scans for that. It doesn't even make much sense because a couple of lightning miracles are stated to be created by Gwyn/Nameless King, and Seath being connected to sorcery and not having any connection to miracles.

But that argument doesn't make much sense anyway. Whether Gwyn created the miracles or not, has no bearing on whether they are real lightning or not. The argument, from what I can see, is that there is no evidence to assume the miracles scale to actual lightning in the first place.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I believe that's one of the conclusions reached by people like VaatiVidya but aye, to my knowledge this is one of those things not really suggested by lore anywhere.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So is this going through or...?

 

[Keeweed]

There doesn’t seem to be anything going against it and we have the new speed. Who wants to edit the profiles? I may be able to, but I’m nervous I may make a mistake.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

I can do it. Just remind me what the new stats are again? Also, is there a calc to link?

 

[Keeweed]

They would be supersonic scaling to Greatbows and bolt traps.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Alright, gimme a bit.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Quick question, why do we have a Gwynevere page when she's never even in any of the games?

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Also, Gael still has massively hypersonic via his real lightning strikes?

 

[Keeweed]

He‘ll have massively hypersonic+ attack speeds, but his Combat and Movement speed would scale to supersonic

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Quick question, why do we have a Gwynevere page when she's never even in any of the games?

Alright, finished up. Just bumping this question.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Quick question, why do we have a Gwynevere page when she's never even in any of the games?

She's referenced enough, we have enough information for the page to exist.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

She's referenced sure, but we have nothing to support her being anywhere near tier 6 outside of her brothers scaling to other tier 6 characters.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Outside of all gods with any feats being Tier 6 (or above). Given the profile is only a "likely/possibly" basis, I don't see the issue.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Whatever, it's not really a big deal. I think we're done here.

 

[Keeweed]

Gael’s description needs to be changed. It should say Supersonic Movement speed and Combat speed (), Massively Hypersonic+ Attack speed (); rather than just saying Supersonic and Massively Hypersonic+ without referring to what they refer too.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Fixed it.

Also just gonna plug my own thread here. Now that we got this and the tier revisions finished, hopfully I can get it reopened soon.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Yeah, that Thread should be addressed.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

The accepted high end of the Asylum Demon calc lists its swing speed as 2582.11 m/s or about Mach 7.5, so Dark Souls should be Hypersonic. Plus let's also not forget that player characters can level up their combat speed (via increasing the i-frames for dodging) in Dark Souls 2, so each key above 8-B should be something like "at least Hypersonic"

 

[Keeweed]

Oh I knew they had a hypersonic feat. I seemed to have missed that end of the calc.

Since this thread is old. I’ll make a thread on that feat after I get home from the gym.