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Dante vs Lucemon

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XXKINGXX69 said:
Can dante destroy the demon world?
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Are you seriously asking or just messing around?

Reploidnoridomix said:
In DMC no,it not limited 💀,literally the verse all about guy beat guy,and then evolve,blah,blah
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It actually has a limit though.

Remember the fight with Urizen? After more than a day fighting his RE/AD couldn't keep up anymore with the constant blood amp Urizen was getting and lost the fight and by the time he woke up for the second round he was fodder for the nameless usurper.
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
Are you seriously asking or just messing around?
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I'm curious as well
Tony_di_bugalu said:
It actually has a limit though.

Remember the fight with Urizen? After more than a day fighting his RE/AD couldn't keep up anymore with the constant blood amp Urizen was getting and lost the fight and by the time he woke up for the second round he was fodder for the nameless usurper.
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Doubt this match will last a day, especially when Lucemon doesn't even got potent RE
 
Reploidnoridomix said:
In DMC no,it not limited 💀,literally the verse all about guy beat guy,and then evolve,blah,blah
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Same as the megami tensei guys just because someone in there jumps to an insane level while evolving (from Low 1-C to 1-A) doesn't mean that they'll evolve to anything higher than the currently accepted cosmology same goes for every guy who has this level of RPL
 
Zencha9 said:
Same as the megami tensei guys just because someone in there jumps to an insane level while evolving (from Low 1-C to 1-A) doesn't mean that they'll evolve to anything higher than the currently accepted cosmology same goes for every guy who has this level of RPL
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I know that,I'm just want to say that dante can evolve to even higher,just not infinite
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
Are you seriously asking or just messing around?


It actually has a limit though.

Remember the fight with Urizen? After more than a day fighting his RE/AD couldn't keep up anymore with the constant blood amp Urizen was getting and lost the fight and by the time he woke up for the second round he was fodder for the nameless usurper.
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I mean urizen have the sparda blood too,combine with the blood amp,that why he stomp dante
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
I don't see why it is a stomp unless Lucy has some higher D stuff
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True Luce is infinitely superior to his infinite avatars and each avatar is far stronger than guys who can destroy infinite 9D world. So he scales infinitely higher than infinite 9D worlds. Does Dante scales to that level?
 
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AuraMugen said:
True Luce is infinitely superior to his infinite avatars and each avatar is far stronger than guys who can destroy infinite 9D world. So he scales infinitely higher than infinite 9D worlds. Does Dante scales to that level?
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his ap is similar to that,just not range yet,this should be a mismatch since both can't do anything to each other
 
Reploidnoridomix said:
his ap is similar to that,just not range yet,this should be a mismatch since both can't do anything to each other
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so far i haven't heard about anything like that only that he scales to an infinite 9-D world and that he has big scaling chains putting aside RPL
 
AuraMugen said:
True Luce is infinitely superior to his infinite avatars and each avatar is far stronger than guys who can destroy infinite 9D world. So he scales infinitely higher than infinite 9D worlds. Does Dante scales to that level?
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EoG Dante > Fruit Urizen > 1 month of blood Urizen > Urizen (after 1 day of getting constantly pumped with blood by the Qliphoth) > Urizen (some hours getting blood) = DMC 5 prologue Dante > DMC 4 Dante > DMC 2 Dante > Chen > Vol 2 Dante (casually stomps void Mundus) > Void Mundus (is the Demon world energy/nexus) > Sparda > Sparda DT Dante > Full power Mundus = The Despair Embodied > Sealed Mundus (casually one shots Dante) ~ DT Anime Dante > Anime Dante = Sid/Abigail > DMC 1 Dante > Nelo Angelo > Sealed Argosax existence ******* everything > pluto = DT PoC Dante > Nightmare > Demon world

That's the basics of the scaling, the meat of the wank comes with Urizen before and after the first hours getting amped by blood to fight Dante.

Urizen is the demonic half of an almost dead Nelo Angelo/Vergil. Basically this Urizen would be the weakest character on the scaling as V thought he could defeat him using Nightmare. After a few hours of getting blood this Urizen grew to the point where he could fight DMC 5 Dante on even grounds, during this fight Urizen kept getting more and more blood which, as shown above, is a tremendous power boost.

Dante's own reactive evolution allowed him to keep up with this power boost for around 25 hours per the game's timeline iirc, after that he gets knocked out. When he wakes up Urizen has grown even stronger than before to the point he easily swatted Dante like a fly and this happens in the moments that Nero gets destroyed by Urizen. And when he wakes up again Dante is knocked out by just breaking the forcefield Urizen has.

Now Urizen keeps getting this immeasurable blood power boost for a month, fortunately for Dante he also got said power boost as the tree confused Dante and Urizen (as they are brothers) and also made a throne for him.

After that Urizen eats the fruit which is considered some godly power boost compared to the tree and he still lost to Dante after the 1 month coma.

TL;DR: Pretty sure they are on even grounds, I would go so far as to wank and say Dante could overwhelm him with his RE/AD.
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
The fruit is capable of making 7B folks boost to Demon King level..
So 1C amp stack.
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If they never went above 9D then we don't assume they do

Not sure how'd lucemon's mimicry work here so i will see what zencha and aura have to say

So far i think its incon due to dante not having sufficient range
 
Forgot to mention it but the scaling is full of stomps, one shots, power amps and other bs.

Examples are Dante getting stomped by Sid then one shorting him after a few moments, Chen being comparable to Sparda then getting a power boost from a deus ex, Dante losing to Nelo then defeating him twice even after a power boost, etc, etc.

Also his beeg booty might not save him since void daddy was also omnipresent on varying degrees
 
this is a little too big brain for my head but the infinite 1-C amps start from urizen's blood stacking yea?
 
how many of much of it is there? like did someone calc how much blood the chunky boy got in his body?
 
We out here being lazy calculating official calcs, and homeboy wants blood bank funds calculation in some tier 1 chain scale.

I don't know what to say anymore
 
it literally do be like dat

but jokes aside i really don't see how this is enough?
like true luce is stronger than an infinite number of 1-Cs and each one of them gets a 1-C amp each time a lucemon in another timeline
 
Zencha9 said:
it literally do be like dat

but jokes aside i really don't see how this is enough?
like true luce is stronger than an infinite number of 1-Cs and each one of them gets a 1-C amp each time a lucemon in another timeline
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I mean
True Luce "infinitely" > Lucemon SM > Lucemon FM >> Alphamon > Examon ~ Leviamon >> Omegamon > Other Royal Knights = Other Demon Lords >> Archangels >> Baihumon > Other holy beasts (Uses 1/12 of their power to sustain it) > Holy beasts's realm = Infinite 9-D realm

Maybe I'm forgetting some stuff in-between
 
there's few things like archangels scaling but other than the infinite avatars should be enough
 
Zencha9 said:
Like true luce is stronger than an infinite number of 1-Cs and each one of them gets a 1-C amp each time a lucemon in another timeline
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That doesn't sound as impressive as you guys made it sound at first.

Can these guys stack/combine their power infinitely or they are just stronger than x guy who is stronger than Y guy?
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
That doesn't sound as impressive as you guys made it sound at first.

Can these guys stack/combine their power infinitely or they are just stronger than x guy who is stronger than Y guy?
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oh my bad
former since the power of the one dying gets added to an alt guy
 
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