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I was hoping for something more detailedTL; DR, both have layered hax at around the same-ish level, both can one-shot each other, but Dante has passive Low 1-C hax following him wherever and whenever.
Honestly, I don't have a concrete answer. At this point it just matters on who pulls the trigger first. Or maybe, they might end up pulling at the same time and killing each other, or giving up and conceding to a stalemate.
Uber Emphatic hax. that's itWhat are the passive Low 1-C hax?
Ah yes. The Fear hax. The one emotion hax that Kratos doesn't resist.Uber Emphatic hax. that's it
What's the area of effect (range) of that passive?Uber Emphatic hax. that's it
Why wouldn't he resist it with his general empathic resistance?Ah yes. The Fear hax. The one emotion hax that Kratos doesn't resist.
Damn it, here I had one shot.Why wouldn't he resist it with his general empathic resistance?
Don't bring up Fear Zeus, that guy is very clearly in his own league.
is that gonna stop kratos from attacking dante??Last I remember it drove entire buildings mad with fear just by Dante being there, but uh... this is DMC3 Dante. Not sure if DMC2 feats apply here too.
Does the Golden Orb provide Mid-Godly healing or god forbid, High Godly? Because given how many layers we have here, if Kratos so much as grazes Dante with the Spear of Destiny, he's deader than dead.Honestly, its pretty close between the two, minus Dante's passives.
Kratos can one shot with his Low 1-C weapons while Dante scales massively above the 4-A feat which is about a 100 times above Kratos,could even be argued to be Low 1-C
But if Dante one shots Kratos, he ain't coming back, however if Dante gets one shot, he can come back with a Gorb.
Voting Dante ig
Well its ressurection not healing, so idk if it matters.Does the Golden Orb provide Mid-Godly healing or god forbid, High Godly? Because given how many layers we have here, if Kratos so much as grazes Dante with the Spear of Destiny, he's deader than dead.
Funnily enough, yes. GoW2 is wacky in a sense that his Demigod key remains as is until he reaches Atlas. Chronology reasons are why the Spear of Destiny has the abilities listed in the GoW key.Well its ressurection not healing, so idk if it matters.
And does he get Spear of Destiny in his Demigod Key? It is currently indexed in his GoW key
the 100x ap advanage is the real winconIf it just induces fear idk how that's a win con
Idk GOW at all but if Kratos has more than 36 braincells I'm sure he would whip out different weapons or spells that could defeat him through other meansthe 100x ap advanage is the real wincon
both one shot each other, the difference is that dante actually comes back
last time it was bfrIn the meantime, what can Dante do to incap Kratos?
Fear hax works as a form of incapacitation. On top of that he can use his other win cons in conjunction with fear haxIf it just induces fear idk how that's a win con
So then who has the better layer for that then? Kratos Resistance or Dante's layers?Fear Hax would just fall under Empathic Manip resistance that Kratos has, and Planck tells me Fear Zeus can't be used as an excuse to not give Kratos that since... well... Fear Zeus is a literal Abstract.
Kratos still has a mind/soul/concept nuking lightning storm in this key. Which is why the resistance layers are very important.Well its ressurection not healing, so idk if it matters.
And does he get Spear of Destiny in his Demigod Key? It is currently indexed in his GoW key
Dante can incap people with fear hax?Fear hax works as a form of incapacitation. On top of that he can use his other win cons in conjunction with fear hax
yeah they adapt to each others haxes until the AP comes up...Also, Kratos can evolve against hax near immediately. I presume the same for Dante, so this so unless the hax are deleting them, they eventually just adapt.
What hax can they adapt to?Also, Kratos can evolve against hax near immediately. I presume the same for Dante, so this so unless the hax are deleting them, they eventually just adapt.
I can't wait for glass to unfuck RE, cause "it only works for shit it's already adapted to" is so ******* dumb, I hate it I hate it so much-What hax can they adapt to?
Bro's a snitch, sorry bro but you will be executedI can't wait for glass to unfuck RE, cause "it only works for shit it's already adapted to" is so ******* dumb, I hate it I hate it so much-
Dante has at least 4 layers could be more don't remember cos of PoC mess. He can also amp it with DT and have other passive hax like madness.Kratos Resistance or Dante's layers?
I mean its resurrection, so I am not sure why it should matter.Kratos still has a mind/soul/concept nuking lightning storm in this key. Which is why the resistance layers are very important.
Fear hax is considered as a form of incap or wincon in the wiki, if I am not wrong. This should be because the character who is haxxed would be rendered unable to fight properly.Dante can incap people with fear hax?
Huh noted.Dante has at least 4 layers could be more don't remember cos of PoC mess. He can also amp it with DT and have other passive hax like madness.
Pretty sure we don't auto-assume resurrection to bring you back from any level of damage unless it's like, one of those time rewind type deals. And Kratos has Type 4 Immortality Negation.I mean its resurrection, so I am not sure why it should matter.
But whatever for Mind I think it would be 3 to 4 layers maybe more, Soul maybe well over a dozen cos its tied with regen neg, Concept is also Type 2.
Kratos has resistance to general empathic manipulation from the Sisters of Fate, so like 3-4 layers of that plus supernatural Willpower and the ability to rapidly adapt to this.Fear hax is considered as a form of incap or wincon in the wiki, if I am not wrong. This should be because the character who is haxxed would be rendered unable to fight properly.
Now for Dante's fear hax, it can make demons feel fear and despair, make them run away and cry. Said demons are unaffected by the DW passives which causes despair fear, insanity/madness.
Pretty much. Dante has better AD I think, since it's pretty basic for Kratos in this tier.For simplicity's sake I'd say they both resist each other's haxes honestly.
AD and RE should also help compensate for hax nonsense of each other.
Kratos can also use his duplication to tank attacks for him, reflect Dante's attacks back at him with the Sun Shield, BFR him to another dimension, and would know of the latter's power via his Info Analysis.So Dante could one shot with AP, can ressurrect himself, can BFR and seal, and can use DT for stat amps.
Kratos can also one shot with AP bcos of weapons.