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I've mostly been focusing on the ghosts in Danny Phantom and as a result the human profiles are a bit lacking and I still have a few human profiles that I need to create but I'm making this thread to prove why we should just outright scale the humans (more so the main humans/ghost hunters) to the standard ghosts of each season and by standard ghost I mean the likes of Danny Phantom not the OP ghosts that appear in season 2 like Pariah Dark, that would be stupid and doesn't work (Unless they are from the future like Future Valerie). Anyway let's see how the humans are shown in verse compared to the ghosts.
Season 1 Feats
In the episode "What you Want" At 1:50, Tucker survives a ghost ray from Danny and note that this is actually just after Danny learned the ghost ray so he can't control it which is why he accidently fired it at Tucker and Tucker casually shrugs it off and says "I'm ok".
In the episode "Control Freaks" At 13:50 Tucker and Sam both take a ghost ray from a Danny who is under Freakshows control and has no control over his actions and they get flung out of the train and shrug it off, At 16:50 this same Danny blasts Tucker with a ghost ray and like before he just shrugs it off.
In the episode "Maternal Instincts" At 12:20 Maddie goes full killer on several ghosts and while she has a weapon that one shots them, she is able to react to them in combat, Note that the Box Ghost is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the ghosts. They all laugh at him and see him as a none threat even though he has the power and speed to match Danny, these ghosts that Maddie fought are logically superior to the weakest ghost in the series. Majority of all the ghosts Danny fights are comparable to him in power as well so to say these ghosts are not even remotely comparable to the basline of ghosts is a stretch.
Season 2 Feats
In the episode "Memory Blank" at 16:40 Tucker wishes he had a monster truck and Desiree creates one, Tucker then proceeds to run from it and at 18:54 he is staying ahead of it. A human would not be able to outrun a ghost powered truck given it would be faster than a normal truck.
In the episode "Reign Storm" At 12:34 The Fright Knight fires a ghost ray and before it hits Vlad, Jack dashes over and moves him out of the way before it hits him. Jack moved after the beam was fired.
In the episode "Beauty Marked" At 13:30 Tucker legit throws his PDA so hard in caves in the Archer Ghost's forhead. This is the same ghost who outright beats Danny and takes his ghost rays with minor irritation.
In the episode "Reality Trip" At 6:05 Freakshow takes a ghost ray from Danny with no visable damage.
At 7:00 the Guys in White show up and Freashow turns a cloud into a giant snowman so big it dwarfed the train monsters that made Danny look like a toy in size and it crushes them and they survive with no injuries at all. Now this likely isn't 8-A but I know for a fact that if a small building size snowman fell from the clouds and landed with such force the ground shook, any Human in between it and the ground is dead.
In the episode "Identity Crisis" At 4:10 Jack ejects from the Fenton RV and his parashot didn't open and he falls and smashes into the ground and actually makes multiple cracks in the ground and he survived that. Again, this is not an 8-A feat but it proves he's not human.
In the episode "The Ultimate Enemy" At 2:06 Future Valerie survives a blast from Future Fright Knight that sends her samshing into to ground and she survives, then at 2:55 Dan shows up and fires a ghost ray at her and it blows up the house they are in. We later see she survived and it doesn't show her escape the explosion so you can't say she dodged it an even if you did that is a speed feat proving she reacted before it hit her. At 20:50 she even survives a punch from Dan who states has no reason to hold back on her and he says he's going to kill her because he dosn't leave anyone alive.
In the episode "Flirting with Disaster" At 8:55 Danny in his human form dodges 3 blasts from Valerie's laser weapon which is fast enough to tage ghosts, At 9:30 Valerie with just a stick knocks her suit which is 8-A in durability that is being controlled by Technus who is also 8-A off the board. Then kicks it in the jaw and sends it flying. Note that when Technus takes over technology like Valerie's suit he reaches levels to the point where he beats to outright curbstomping Danny Phantom, hell earlier in the episode he beat Danny one on one but even Valerie a ghost hunter without any gear can fight a being who is at the very least comparable to Danny Phantom...
Season 3 Feats
In the episode "Girls Night Out" At 15:19 Skulker shows up with a giant monster and as he's getting away, Jack catches up and kicks Skulker off the monster and Skulker sees him coming. At 18:50 we see Jack pull the head of the monster through the kitchen wall which shows his strength and it's still alive so we know they didn't chop it's head off and let's say they did. No human can rip off the head of a monster of that size.
In the same episode at 17:50 to 18:30 Sam, Maddie and Jazz fight with Ember McLain, Kitty and Spectra. Sam kicks Kitty before they could react and after Ember sends Sam flying, she fights Jazz and Jazz literally dodges three attacks and after that, Maddie survives being flung by Spectra and takes a direct hit from her ghost blast. The three ghost gals are still seen as threats to Danny and Kitty legit catches up to Johnny and has prove she is faster than him in season 1 and 3. Johnny is comparable to Danny throughout the entire series.
In the episode "Urban Jungle" At 5:05 Danny tries to break free of Undergrowth's vines but can't. Note that this Danny can casually lift a school bus full of kids and lift other large objects with no effort and Undergrowth's vines can also easily smash through dump trucks and other construction vehicels and casually lift and toss them with no effort. However in even though these two are that strong, at 6:58 Maddie comes in and casually cuts them to pieces with ordinary gardening tools... Hell these same vines just a few seconds ago ripped the Fenton RV in two!.
In the episode "Claw of the Wild" at 14:49 Sam survives a blast from Walker that only pushes her. The same Walker that can harm season 3 Danny.
In the final episode of the series "Phantom Planet" at 28:33 Skulker and a few fodder ghosts blast a Danny who no longer has ghost powers and instead of getting vaporized, he survives the blast. They caused him pain but he took the attack so even when Danny doesn't have powers he is durable like the other main human/ghost hunters.
Conclusion
There are more feats of the main human/ghost hunters proving they are not only beyond normal humans but also scale to ghosts of that season. Theses were just ones that I could remember off the top of my head. These humans prove that when they have interactions with ghosts that are on or above Danny's level (Future Valerie/Dan Phantom exculsivly) they can combat them in speed and survive there attacks, the story does not depict them as fodder and shows this. The humans that are fodder are the ones that run in terror and such but the main human ghost hunters are physically comparable to ghosts and they can harm each other so that's more evidance of their AP scaling. If more feats are needed I'll try and find some more but from showings the main humans/ghost hunters should outright scale to the ghosts of that season. There is also an episode that shows Jazz using the Fenton Ghost Helmet to train in close combat against ghosts so they are letting us know they can combat them.
Season 1 Feats
In the episode "What you Want" At 1:50, Tucker survives a ghost ray from Danny and note that this is actually just after Danny learned the ghost ray so he can't control it which is why he accidently fired it at Tucker and Tucker casually shrugs it off and says "I'm ok".
In the episode "Control Freaks" At 13:50 Tucker and Sam both take a ghost ray from a Danny who is under Freakshows control and has no control over his actions and they get flung out of the train and shrug it off, At 16:50 this same Danny blasts Tucker with a ghost ray and like before he just shrugs it off.
In the episode "Maternal Instincts" At 12:20 Maddie goes full killer on several ghosts and while she has a weapon that one shots them, she is able to react to them in combat, Note that the Box Ghost is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the ghosts. They all laugh at him and see him as a none threat even though he has the power and speed to match Danny, these ghosts that Maddie fought are logically superior to the weakest ghost in the series. Majority of all the ghosts Danny fights are comparable to him in power as well so to say these ghosts are not even remotely comparable to the basline of ghosts is a stretch.
Season 2 Feats
In the episode "Memory Blank" at 16:40 Tucker wishes he had a monster truck and Desiree creates one, Tucker then proceeds to run from it and at 18:54 he is staying ahead of it. A human would not be able to outrun a ghost powered truck given it would be faster than a normal truck.
In the episode "Reign Storm" At 12:34 The Fright Knight fires a ghost ray and before it hits Vlad, Jack dashes over and moves him out of the way before it hits him. Jack moved after the beam was fired.
In the episode "Beauty Marked" At 13:30 Tucker legit throws his PDA so hard in caves in the Archer Ghost's forhead. This is the same ghost who outright beats Danny and takes his ghost rays with minor irritation.
In the episode "Reality Trip" At 6:05 Freakshow takes a ghost ray from Danny with no visable damage.
At 7:00 the Guys in White show up and Freashow turns a cloud into a giant snowman so big it dwarfed the train monsters that made Danny look like a toy in size and it crushes them and they survive with no injuries at all. Now this likely isn't 8-A but I know for a fact that if a small building size snowman fell from the clouds and landed with such force the ground shook, any Human in between it and the ground is dead.
In the episode "Identity Crisis" At 4:10 Jack ejects from the Fenton RV and his parashot didn't open and he falls and smashes into the ground and actually makes multiple cracks in the ground and he survived that. Again, this is not an 8-A feat but it proves he's not human.
In the episode "The Ultimate Enemy" At 2:06 Future Valerie survives a blast from Future Fright Knight that sends her samshing into to ground and she survives, then at 2:55 Dan shows up and fires a ghost ray at her and it blows up the house they are in. We later see she survived and it doesn't show her escape the explosion so you can't say she dodged it an even if you did that is a speed feat proving she reacted before it hit her. At 20:50 she even survives a punch from Dan who states has no reason to hold back on her and he says he's going to kill her because he dosn't leave anyone alive.
In the episode "Flirting with Disaster" At 8:55 Danny in his human form dodges 3 blasts from Valerie's laser weapon which is fast enough to tage ghosts, At 9:30 Valerie with just a stick knocks her suit which is 8-A in durability that is being controlled by Technus who is also 8-A off the board. Then kicks it in the jaw and sends it flying. Note that when Technus takes over technology like Valerie's suit he reaches levels to the point where he beats to outright curbstomping Danny Phantom, hell earlier in the episode he beat Danny one on one but even Valerie a ghost hunter without any gear can fight a being who is at the very least comparable to Danny Phantom...
Season 3 Feats
In the episode "Girls Night Out" At 15:19 Skulker shows up with a giant monster and as he's getting away, Jack catches up and kicks Skulker off the monster and Skulker sees him coming. At 18:50 we see Jack pull the head of the monster through the kitchen wall which shows his strength and it's still alive so we know they didn't chop it's head off and let's say they did. No human can rip off the head of a monster of that size.
In the same episode at 17:50 to 18:30 Sam, Maddie and Jazz fight with Ember McLain, Kitty and Spectra. Sam kicks Kitty before they could react and after Ember sends Sam flying, she fights Jazz and Jazz literally dodges three attacks and after that, Maddie survives being flung by Spectra and takes a direct hit from her ghost blast. The three ghost gals are still seen as threats to Danny and Kitty legit catches up to Johnny and has prove she is faster than him in season 1 and 3. Johnny is comparable to Danny throughout the entire series.
In the episode "Urban Jungle" At 5:05 Danny tries to break free of Undergrowth's vines but can't. Note that this Danny can casually lift a school bus full of kids and lift other large objects with no effort and Undergrowth's vines can also easily smash through dump trucks and other construction vehicels and casually lift and toss them with no effort. However in even though these two are that strong, at 6:58 Maddie comes in and casually cuts them to pieces with ordinary gardening tools... Hell these same vines just a few seconds ago ripped the Fenton RV in two!.
In the episode "Claw of the Wild" at 14:49 Sam survives a blast from Walker that only pushes her. The same Walker that can harm season 3 Danny.
In the final episode of the series "Phantom Planet" at 28:33 Skulker and a few fodder ghosts blast a Danny who no longer has ghost powers and instead of getting vaporized, he survives the blast. They caused him pain but he took the attack so even when Danny doesn't have powers he is durable like the other main human/ghost hunters.
Conclusion
There are more feats of the main human/ghost hunters proving they are not only beyond normal humans but also scale to ghosts of that season. Theses were just ones that I could remember off the top of my head. These humans prove that when they have interactions with ghosts that are on or above Danny's level (Future Valerie/Dan Phantom exculsivly) they can combat them in speed and survive there attacks, the story does not depict them as fodder and shows this. The humans that are fodder are the ones that run in terror and such but the main human ghost hunters are physically comparable to ghosts and they can harm each other so that's more evidance of their AP scaling. If more feats are needed I'll try and find some more but from showings the main humans/ghost hunters should outright scale to the ghosts of that season. There is also an episode that shows Jazz using the Fenton Ghost Helmet to train in close combat against ghosts so they are letting us know they can combat them.
