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Dan Karuma Vs Sirzechs Lucifer

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And that's why one-hit wonders like Sirzechs suck. They either stomp or get stomped. There is almost 0% of chance to find a fair match for these guys.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
Not sure why you're using infinite Ophis and Great Red as the foundation of your points as 98% of the verse can't do anything to them, so Sirzechs shouldn't be able to do anything to this...dream guy.
Well they could interact with them, but if ALRF is right and neither of them qualifying for abstract existences then this should be closed for stomp. Sirzechs can't affect him. Unless Dan's soul and Mind can still be affected.

@ALRF he did envelop an island when fighting aphophis but anyway.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
Not sure why you're using infinite Ophis and Great Red as the foundation of your points as 98% of the verse can't do anything to them, so Sirzechs shouldn't be able to do anything to this...dream guy.
Well they could interact with them, but if ALRF is right and neither of them qualifying for abstract existences then this should be closed for stomp. Sirzechs can't affect him. Unless Dan's soul and Mind can still be affected.

@ALRF he did envelop an island when fighting trihexia but anyway.
 
Don't vote. This is getting closed for stomp. It's a stomp either way:

If Abstract Exitence stays on Ophis and Great Red, Sirzechs has a passive win option which is the most basic definition of a stomp.

If it is removed it's a stomp for Dan since Sirzechs can't do anything to him.
 
Isn't this a stomp though?

Zechs can't affect metaphysical dream people, and Dan's getting EE resist I think anyway
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Isn't this a stomp though?
Zechs can't affect metaphysical dream people, and Dan's getting EE resist I think anyway
It was never meant to be fair. It was being argued. Even if Zechs affecting dreams stays passive wins are not allowed, there are many cases were sirzechs will just passively win and Dan having nothing to stop Zechs dimensional travel makes this a stomp.

So yeah Zechs affecting dreams stays = stomp.

It gets removed= stomp.
 
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