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CW Flash Revision
- Thread starter Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan
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Oh then I guess it's fine, I always was told that timeline manipulation via time travel never granted a tier unless causality was out of the equation.
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Honestly i think our current usage of dceu Barry's feat is wrong because it's clearly not just a enviromental destruction via time travel feat.
Yes Flashpoint Barry does harm the universe because of time travel as we see the chronobowl is getting damaged because of him, but in the scene right after that we see Dark Flash use his lightning to litterally damage the chronobowl and pull other universes to eachother, with dc cinematic multiverse describing this scene as fractureing the fabric of reality, Barry physically scales to this lightning as he endured it for several seconds, heck even Flashpoint Barry's lightning was able to harm the universe. They are able to effect the universe with time travel and their attacks (which they physically scale to).
So imo we should either completely remove it because it would be an outlier, or maybe scale the Flashes to it via the speed force, something like "up to 2-C inside the speed-force"...or just scale everyone in dceu to it.
Yes Flashpoint Barry does harm the universe because of time travel as we see the chronobowl is getting damaged because of him, but in the scene right after that we see Dark Flash use his lightning to litterally damage the chronobowl and pull other universes to eachother, with dc cinematic multiverse describing this scene as fractureing the fabric of reality, Barry physically scales to this lightning as he endured it for several seconds, heck even Flashpoint Barry's lightning was able to harm the universe. They are able to effect the universe with time travel and their attacks (which they physically scale to).
So imo we should either completely remove it because it would be an outlier, or maybe scale the Flashes to it via the speed force, something like "up to 2-C inside the speed-force"...
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You're welcome to make a CRT to fix it!
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I can't right now since i already ahve 2 ongoing dceu threads but after one of them concludes i will do it.
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hixakr yana ate .
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For verses containing multiple continuities, we can create more than 3 ongoing Threads, and since this also affects the Arrowverse, you can create a CRT without waiting for other CRTs to conclude
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I think we should consider Dark Flash pulling universes as an outlier and downgrade the Speedsters to Low 2-C ED.
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omg also
how is the progress w the cw pages going so far? bc like i remember there was some talk abt byasura leaving that affected the whole thing bc they was working on it too so im js wondering
how is the progress w the cw pages going so far? bc like i remember there was some talk abt byasura leaving that affected the whole thing bc they was working on it too so im js wondering
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Slowly but progressing. ByAsura's departure from the wiki and my break slowed everything down, but since I've returned, I've been picking up where ByAsura left off.
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I can agree with considering as an outlier but i don't agree with keeping ED for dceu speedsters, it would be cherry picking feats. Or, like i said make them a seperate key/section with in the speed force.
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girl where have u been!
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it wouldn't be cherry picking feats. The only outlier here is Dark Flash pulling universes with lightning; other than that, there is no outlier for ED. And since there is no scene, implication, or statement showing that the Flashes gain any power increase when they enter the Speed Force, I don't agree with that option either.
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It would be because we actually have (1,2) more feats of these characters damaging universes with their raw ap opposed to ED (1). Also isn't arrowverse universes 2-B to 2-A, Barry isn't just damaging a timeline he is damaging the universe itself.
They don't have to state he gains an amp we see this by his feats, but if you disagree i wont push it.
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The damage they caused to the universe with their raw ap, was not significant enough to warrant any tier.
We cannot give them any tier unless they make a significant impact on the universe. However, since they damage the universe itself—that is, space-time—we can give their lightning bolts the Non-Physical Interaction ability.
If there were more feats, I'd agree with you, but there aren't. As I said above, the damage they impact on the universe with their lightning bolts wasn't significant enough to warrant any tier. So none of the things they did within the Speed Force were higher than their AP; only Dark Flash's pulling of the Universes was high, and we already agreed that this was an outlier.
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honestly like wherever they are rn i’m hoping they’re living their life so mf good
but anyways nice work on the progress tho! literally carrying the arrowverse so hard i fear
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girl i started my first year in uni a month ago
i got eneolled into nursing but its actually a 2+2 program thing so they’re lits making me do all this within like 2 years before i move to an actual nursing school its crazyybut like i also have volleyball too n its going fine so!
so literally like im js lurking around this site now bc i’m lowk not interested in scaling stuff anymore but like also some of my fav stuff that i watch dropped new seasons & i js need ppl to talk to abt spoilers
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oopsies wait i think im kind of derailing this so thats all i gotta say
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He's able to put a hole in the space-time continuum, this place, even withouth counting the arrowverse shenanigans contains multiple timelimes, several versions of the final battle, the og dceu timeline, the timeline flahs ends up at the end of the movie and ect. By damaging the chronobowl he is basically effecting at least 6 timelines. But even without counting that, putting a hole in something is definitly a significant impact, not to even mention if you did that by accident. If he fired multiple lightning bolts, would that be applicable because he caused "more" damage ? That doesn’t make sense to me.
I mean if you really want more high end feat there is flash's cosmic rewind, in which flash was creating big bangs with each of his footsteps, spawning galaxies, recreating the universe, or there are statements saying flash transcends space/time when going close to the SoL... or if you want go go even further there is the dceu/smallville darkseid scaling, but i digress. Yes i agree as of now Dark Flashes feat should be an outlier, but so should be flashpoint barry's ap feat and ED feat.
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omg exciting!!! going to med school next year we gon be twinninggirl i started my first year in uni a month ago
but like i also have volleyball too n its going fine so!
so literally like im js lurking around this site now bc i’m lowk not interested in scaling stuff anymore but like also some of my fav stuff that i watch dropped new seasons & i js need ppl to talk to abt spoilers
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agreed!
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Okay, I agree
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Alright, when i make the thread i'll link it here.
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I’m currently preparing the profiles. Once they’re ready, we’ll open a separate CRT for their implementation. Nothing else needs to be handled here for now.
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How so?
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DCEU Speedsters should scale to the Arrowverse Speedsters' Low 2-C environmental destruction feats because they both use the same SpeedForce and they are both Speedsters.
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DCEU Flash Environmental Destruction
Currently dceu Flash has 2-C Environmental Destruction via Time Travel, with the reasoning being him causing alternate realities to collide and collapse as a result of using time travel. However this is wrong. Flash time travelling did not result in alternate realities to collide, this did...
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The cells in star labs are stated to be about 100,000 times the strength of Earth’s magnetic field, would that get the characters thats able to break them in multi-continental ranges ?
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I calculated this but it really gave an extremely low result.
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Damn really ?
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Let me explain how low it is: even the magnetic field of an MRI machine is tens of thousands of times stronger than Earth's magnetic field.
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Machine level Flash
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I started working on the Arrowverse Page again. This is how it looks right now. I'm open to suggestions
vsbattles.fandom.com
ByArrow/arrowversepage
vsbattles.fandom.com
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This is fine
You should probably make the galleries the same size (not sure i'll consider yao fei to be a hero)
You should probably make the galleries the same size (not sure i'll consider yao fei to be a hero)
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Here is some stuff from the interviews:
The Thinker was the most powerfull metahuman ever at the time of S4 and Team Flash is constantly getting stronger.
The Forces were stronger than anyone or anything Barry had to fight up to S7.
The only way to show how strong Godspeed was, was to have Thawne and Flash team up.
As Flash levles up in S7 and S8 the villians he faces now will also be at another level compared to the previous ones.
By the time of S8 Barry had leveled up to the point where he has god-like powers and abilities.
Despero is more powerfull than anyone Flash has ever faced up to S8. Pushed the Team Flash to their limits and would have beaten Supergirl and The Legends.
The Thinker was the most powerfull metahuman ever at the time of S4 and Team Flash is constantly getting stronger.
The Forces were stronger than anyone or anything Barry had to fight up to S7.
The only way to show how strong Godspeed was, was to have Thawne and Flash team up.
As Flash levles up in S7 and S8 the villians he faces now will also be at another level compared to the previous ones.
By the time of S8 Barry had leveled up to the point where he has god-like powers and abilities.
Despero is more powerfull than anyone Flash has ever faced up to S8. Pushed the Team Flash to their limits and would have beaten Supergirl and The Legends.
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There is also in Armageddon part 2 Alex from Supergirl notes that despero is more powerful than any foe Supergirl has faced and catlin states a moment later he has a physiology that rivals kryptonians. Since i couldn't find a video this happens around 3 miniutes into the episode.
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Yes, in part 1 they even compare Despero to Fuerza.
