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Culexus Assassin vs. Fugil Arcadia: My worst idea ever 2 (0-7-0)

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Analytical Prediction, Instinctive Reaction and skill based Precognition. I know you mean shifting through reality.
 
See the thing is they're more than good enough to do that sort of thing themselves and deal with it, being assassins and all.

The invis is partly based on phasing out of reality, but also a facet of their mind stuff. People's minds just refuse to perceive Culexus Assassins, more or less. There was also the time that one just strode up to a dude and shot him in plain view of a ton of rubricae (not the type to be affected by Culexus powers) because they couldn't see oit
 
Iirc they can also become invisible, plus the Culexus would just continue to attack.

Whats Fugils wincon, why would it be nulled and how "supernatural" is Fugil to determine hiw he may be effected mentally.
 
Fugil is far above Lux who can dodge and attack people he cannot even see or perceive, and that person couldn't be detected by people with radars to detect invisible beings and that's without using that technique to not be percieved. Also, tricking Fugil's mind is pretty difficult, he could fight againts someone he didn't even knew existed because his memories and perception about that person were erased from him.
 
Wincon is probably just "is 8-B", though getting a hit may be hard.

Remember those scans of them crippling tau with their presence lol
 
I don't think resisting the Culexus mind thing is really gonna happen unless they don't have a soul/are Alpha+ psyker, they gotta actively suppress themselves and even then most people will refuse to be anywhere near one.

heres a quote

When it is switched off altogether, the mayhem that ensues is terrifying to behold. Victims in close proximity may flee in wild-eyed terror, or freeze in place, hyperventilating and shaking uncontrollably. Others collapse, clutching their heads as bloody froth oozes from tearducts and gaping mouths. Psykers scream in horror as their connection to the Warp is severed, the Assassin's powers snuffing out their own like the flame of a candle.
~ Dataslate: Officio Assassinorum​
Given that a Culexus once blocked Nids from The Hive Mind...
 
Fugil has recieved fear effects on the same level of that quote if not worse, and even if he is affected he is always calm even if he is overwhelmed.
 
Given Culexus' stat reduction is based on the supernatural powers, which Fugil mostly lacks, it'll indeed have a effect he won't be affect that much.
 
Time to talk why I think Fugil could take this, I will mention Culexus abilities one by one and I'm going to mention what can Fugil do againts them:

Power Null, Statistics Reduction and Mind Hax: This is done by nulling supernatural powers, which Fugil mostly lacks, so it will barely affect him. Fugil has recieved things that can burn and break his mind, drive him into insanity, paralyze people from fear, make them forgethow to breath due to fear, agony beyond imagination, his blood boiling, and having his nerves tampered, and that's only the effect of a 10% Baptism, Fugil survived a 100% one, so the effect of the mind hax are kinda moot for him.

Invisibility, Intangibility and Soul Hax: The invisibility gets countered by Fugil senses, I already explained why some post before. The intangibility doesn't matter much, Fugil despite not having NPI, Culexus needs to shift back to reality to touch Fugil, so Fugil can perfectly predict and attack Culexus at that instant. To apply the soul hax Culexus needs to touch his opponent first, so Fugil has the range adventage with his sword.

Grenades: I highly doubt it will really work, because Fugil basically lacks supernatural powers he won't be affected that much and at beast he should lose conciuosness. Except that he resist being forcefully put into uncounciousness, aside from Self-Sustenance Type 3 that I think should help with that.

Anything else tha I missed?
 
Not simply nulling supernatural powers. If he or his equipment relies to some level on some supernatural energy, should still work. But he doesn't seem to so he should be fine, maybe? Also, what is the potency of this mindhax he resisted?

Saying what he has actually countered with Analytic Prediction and Skill based Precognition would really help, we can't just assume any of those are comparable to Culexus.

Lacking a need to sleep doesn't make you more or less susceptible to getting knocked out. And where does he resist being forcefully made unconscious?
 
Fugil doesn't have any kind of supernatural energy, since the verse likely doesn't have one. Mindhax that works on people who resist mindhax that works on people who resist mindhax that works on people that can resist mindhax, and the lowest one in this long scale works on over 100 people.

Fugil scales far higher than Lux with Analytical Prediction and it was actually stated that his dodging skills were "on a higher dimension" tha Lux's. Lux is capable of dodging 17 attacks at the same time, with each of them coming from a different direction and constantly following his movement, without even seeing the attacks that were much faster than he could move and were performed by someone 10 times stronger than him. Lux blocked attacks from Yoruka while using Instant Strike which are atatcks that the person cannot even perceive, so Lux blocked attacks from someone he cannot perceive. Lux also dodged attacks from someone in complete darkness, that person was completely capable of seeing him but Lux was unable to see him due to the darkness, and Lux still won. Lux won a lot of matches by only dodging, meaning he has dodged every attack from his opponents. Lux and Fugil can dodge attacks in the first 5 seconds of Reload on Fire that makes them 10x slower than their opponent, so they can dodge atatcks 10 times faster than them. Fugil dodged attacks while being frozen and without any kind of mobility. Fugil dodged attacks from someone that can make multiple attacks at the same time. With Precognition Fugil countered Wise Blood which can see several seconds into the future showing the actions and openings of her opponent while being attacked from another place. Fugil was also capable to compeltely predict the direction in which his opponent was moving despite not seeing him and put his sword in the place where he would be completely exploting said person's Invulnerability's weakness. Fugil also fought againts 1200 different opponents at the same time and he came out unscratched from that. Fugil also dodged an AoE that covered his entire field of vision while running towards it.

A 10% Baptism forcefully makes you uncouncious and people like Lux has recieved this and was unaffected, and Fugil recieved a 100% one and was also unaffected.
 
That's good then. And could you explain a little where that chain comes from? The best we know about culexus is that it could still make a whole room of Tau go mad. Tau have such a weak warp signature even normal humans seem like a flame compared to their pale light, yet a room full of them still go mad after one comes in. But seems like Fugil may be able to resist. Granted it feels like a toss in the air, seeing how a Culexus was even able to affect the link of a Tyranid to the Hive Mind, who controls swarms in the quintillions and can even bloat out the light of the Astronomicon made by The Emperor of Mankind.

The Instant Attack one is his best chance since everything else doesn't really compare to a stealth specialist that phases out of reality, bypasses the senses of characters with super senses already and even Rubricae Marines, which shouldn't get affected by Culexus powers.

Hm... also undecided on this one. It says "normal people", but this would mean just anyone without psyker powers. Which would still fall under the likes of normal Space Marines and stuff, which are far beyond normal. I think waiting for Wok's opinion could help me decide better.
 
The chain comes from Iblis' mindhax gets resisted by Elixir, people with Elixir are affected by Yggdrasil's mindhax, a 10% Baptism grants resistance to Yggdrasil's mind hax, Avalon's Trial's mindhax works on people with 10% Baptism, a higher amount of Baptism grants resistance to that trial's mindhax, Sacred Eclipse's mindhax works on people with 50% Baptism, a 100% Baptism grants resistance to Sacred Eclipse's mindhax, and Fugil has a 100% Baptism, so he has that mindhax resistance scale.
 
Culexus mindhaxes him to death. There is no way that Fugil has mindhax resistance on the level of Tyranid Hive Mind so he will get affected 100%.
 
Culexus mindhax doesn't kill tho. And I already mentioned that Fugil has suffered those effects before so he should be fine recieving them. Also, Culexus mindhax won't be as strong because Fugil has no supernatural energy or sonething like that.
 
By the way, if Fugil decides to use Quick Draw he will launch an attack that not even people with enhanced senses, extrasensory perception, people who are able to read the wavelenghts of the brain and that are 10x faster than Fugil can perceive/react/think.
 
Ionliosite said:
Time to talk why I think Fugil could take this, I will mention Culexus abilities one by one and I'm going to mention what can Fugil do againts them:

Power Null, Statistics Reduction and Mind Hax: This is done by nulling supernatural powers, which Fugil mostly lacks, so it will barely affect him. Fugil has recieved things that can burn and break his mind, drive him into insanity, paralyze people from fear, make them forgethow to breath due to fear, agony beyond imagination, his blood boiling, and having his nerves tampered, and that's only the effect of a 10% Baptism, Fugil survived a 100% one, so the effect of the mind hax are kinda moot for him.

Invisibility, Intangibility and Soul Hax: The invisibility gets countered by Fugil senses, I already explained why some post before. The intangibility doesn't matter much, Fugil despite not having NPI, Culexus needs to shift back to reality to touch Fugil, so Fugil can perfectly predict and attack Culexus at that instant. To apply the soul hax Culexus needs to touch his opponent first, so Fugil has the range adventage with his sword.

Grenades: I highly doubt it will really work, because Fugil basically lacks supernatural powers he won't be affected that much and at beast he should lose conciuosness. Except that he resist being forcefully put into uncounciousness, aside from Self-Sustenance Type 3 that I think should help with that.

Anything else tha I missed?
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Any counter arguments?
 
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