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Cthulhu tiering evidence?

Creaturemaster971

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This question has probably already been answered and I just haven't seen it, but would the implication that he "destroyed stars" warrant an Unknown, possibly 4-C?
 
This has been described a few times. If I recall, it wasn't accepted not because the feat itself is wonky, but because theirs vague lore in Cthulhu being ranked much higher than that.
 
I'm rather confused by the feat itself being listed on there. If we're not gonna put Cthulhu as even a possibly 4-C, WTH is the point of putting that? Shouldn't there be an explanation on WHY we're not listing him as is? Or just change it up to something else?

Actually, though really off-topic as all heck, i find this being a problem for other profiles that have something stated on them but doesn't have a note on why we don't scale them to something of that. Like the Ichigo and Aizen EoS scaling to Yhwach for instance. The former's AP and Dura are Moon level due to taking Yhwach's casual Moon level attacks, which is alright to me as well as how Yhwach got his Dura from that....i think. Problem i have with this, is that NOBODY ever likes to bother writing a damn note on WHY we don't have Ichigo and Aizen as 5-B. If we had a note saying they scale to Yhwach's casual moon level potency thing, that would give us less issues of people bringing up said topic i said from time to time.

On-topic, i think Azzy and/or whoever is a supporter of the verse and is especially knowlegable of it needs to look at this and actually should try to maybe suggest having a written note on Cthulhu's page about his tiering. Because this way, like the instance above, we wouldn't have to get this topic being brought up again. It's not as bad as others, just that it's more better if we actually give a written note explaining why Cthulhu is not given a solid tier at least, even if it's just a "possibly ___" tier.
 
I've always wondered this myself. Even if we don't know how he did it, he still did it, didn't he?
 
Well the thing is that we only know that Cthulhu was somehow the cause for the disappearance of multiples stars. Like a lot of them. But we have no more information. It's like very vague. Although "Unknown, at least 4-C" would somewhat make sense.
 
It's way too much of a low-balling. His fodder minions would have survived that easily. And apparently, Sun surviving is going to get upgraded to Low 6-B too, meaning that the feat would have even less importance to Cthulhu. Not only that but the thing's son is Low 6-B via sheer size. That would be like scaling a god to his human followers. It's technically accurate but it's kinda obvious that he would be superior to them.
 
Is that sun surviving thing even still going?

Also, the idea of "Unknown, possibly 4-C" should have really been there a long time ago.
 
I mean rating Cthulhu himself at Low 6-B is painful lowballing in my opinion. But the Cthuli themselves at Low 6-B would be fine, but my calc wasn't accepted yet IIRC.
 
Gonna get both Low 6-B Starbound and fodder Mythos.

@Cross Lina was supposed to do it. Not sure what's the calc current state.
 
@Cross. AFAIK, Kka/Gwyn who was working on it is really busy with other stuff, so the progress is understandably slow. Though, as far as I can tell, the math isn't particularly hard so I might see if I can help with it.
 
Ah. I think Lina's been forgetting and/or been busy with other stuff. Which sucks because he was gonna do a calc for the Fate verse.

But anyways until then, i could still see Cthulhu being as what's agreed and or approved for using here.

Edit: @Dark Ah okay that too.
 
I don't really have a problem with "Unknown, At least 4-C" as long as the "Unknown" is kept due to how extremely vague the character is.

I also have no problems with the Low 6-B fodder upgrades.
 
Alright. Do I change it, then, or does someone else have to? (I'm kind of new here, so I don't know how this particular process works)
 
@Jordan

In most cases, you can make changes as a regular member, with the exceptions being to more controversial locked pages and Tier 2 and above pages.

Anyway, I can update Cthulhu's page if this is fully agreed upon, but don't know if we have the calcs ready for the Low 6-B fodder pages.
 
I am also fine with a 4-C Cthulhu.
 
Well, that scales to...a whole lot, actually.

Would the things that scale to this technically get an "At least" before the tier, as well? This is considering the fact that this was an event that had no effect on them and that they quite literally slept through.
 
Some help would be appreciated here, yes.
 
I recall that there was going to be something for Cthulu's rating along the lines of

"At least High 6-A (given that Darkanine's recalc of Saikou's calc gave him High 6-A, possibly 4-C (Due to the stars being destroyed thing)".

Would this be something to be considered or is everyone fine enough with Cthulu having "Unknown. Possibly 4-C" as a rating?
 
"At least High 6-A" probably wouldn't be relevant to Cthulhu, since things casually of that level are so below him they basically don't even register on his radar.
 
So, are any changes necessary here, or should we close this thread?
 
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