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CRT about Elysia's new profile
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Looks fine at a glance, though I do think a better image could be used for the HoO section, wallpapers iirc are discouraged from being used
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The main problem is that I couldn't find a better image of Elysia Herrscher of Origin's full body, if possible I would like someone to recommend me a person so I could ask them to edit this wallpaper to remove the background and left only Elysia and her Manta Ray
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Ms. Pink Elf.
Of course, I agree with this.
Of course, I agree with this.
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Ask @Propellus to render it i think
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About grammar mistakes, despite my efforts, it was inevitable that I would make some mistakes, since English isn't my main language to be honest, its my second one
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disagree with the profile, because there is almost so scan for her power, also about Honkai Energy high level, iirc there is a statement about her massive efficiency in controlling the Honkai or something similar
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I don't see why the starry dimension should be interpreted as Elysia literally creating hundreds of stars and moving them.
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If you think the starry dimension isn't her making stars or moving them, you should at least provide an alternative interpretation and why that's more likely as opposed to just saying that the easiest thing to assume by looking at it, is incorrect
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I mean, the clip that justifies Elyisa having 4-A AP in her sandbox profile is pretty straightforward and showns that she was the one who created that starry dimension
Rakih_Elyan
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This is just your usual Honkai problem bruh.
Scan.
Scan.
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Hence why this is all in sandbox, it mean to be updated and get a feedback first
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Bump
I put scans in her statistics, abilities and resistances
Also, I managed to get a better image of Elysia's Herrscher of Origin Form thanks to @Propellus rendering and editing the previous one
I put scans in her statistics, abilities and resistances
Also, I managed to get a better image of Elysia's Herrscher of Origin Form thanks to @Propellus rendering and editing the previous one
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Happy now? @Vietthai96
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Would ask you to calm down a bit. It's a sandbox, of course it's going to be missing stuff. At least they're actually contributing.
If you wanna be so fussy about scans, then help get them instead of just flat disagreeing.
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I mean, the purpose of this CRT was simply to post what I already had in the sandbox and ask the verse supporters what was missing or what is wrong, of course I wouldn't post this profile of officially unless it was 100 % completed and with the supporters agreeing with the final result
By the way, does anyone know where it it the dialogue about Kalpas one-shotting the Herrscher of Ice before his Meta-Morph Ichor surgery? Need this to know where it is to me to take prints and makes scans about it
By the way, does anyone know where it it the dialogue about Kalpas one-shotting the Herrscher of Ice before his Meta-Morph Ichor surgery? Need this to know where it is to me to take prints and makes scans about it
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actually, i just joking, but bruhh, people get baited
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Nothing in the ER is real. It's all just data. Those aren't real stars, and it isn't an AP feat in any case.
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Just because Elysia performed the starry sky feat in the Elysian Realm doesn't mean that this is illegitimate, remember, the Elysia who we met in the Elysian Realm is pretty much the same as the real Elysia from outside the ER in terms of power, abilities and personality, the only few differences that she had from her real self is that she get some additional abilities and resistances, such as Immortality Type 1, Data Manipulation and her resistance to it due to her nature as a sim, but her own natural abilities such as Crystal Manipulation, her Herrscher Forms and its abilities, mainly the Pocket Reality Manipulation, she gets that from her real self, not because she is a sim, so the real Elysia should have been capable of performing the starry sky feat
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I forgot to mention before, but since we accept that Honkai energy can be used to strengthen one's physical capabilities, and considering that Elysia obviously used the amount of Honkai energy that she can output to create that realm with the starry sky in the background, she should be 4-A physically
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We don't know the exact extent of that self-enhancement though, since it's rarely ever focused on. We don't know if it's 1-to-1 with Honkai energy since that probably depends on the user's Honkai adaptability.
The ones that use that technique most were the Seven Swords, but the flipping VN doesn't exist past chapter 3, so we have basically little to no reference points.
The ones that use that technique most were the Seven Swords, but the flipping VN doesn't exist past chapter 3, so we have basically little to no reference points.
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One thing I failed to think about though is you'd probably want to separate the ER sim version from the living version into different keys, since some abilities would be exclusive to either one, like the immortality.
Also, I realized some of the justifications I saw on the profile aren't correct, after I read through more thoroughly. Elysia's time fracture lasting 3 seconds isn't true afaik, since that duration was taken from Kiana's in-game profile. The resistance to Honkai Energy also wouldn't normally need to be re-stated since it's already part of the Honkai Energy page unless it's abnormally strong like with Kiana, or has some special property like with Durandal.
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I don't think it's necessary to make keys that differentiate Elysia's sim from her real self, I think that putting a new tabber for her exclusive abilities and resistances as a sim and put a note to specify which Elysia is being used in a Versus Thread (the sim or the real one) is more than enough
Alright, I will fix Elysia's Time Slow description then. I think Elysia current section about her Resistance to Honkai Energy is fine, I mean, Elysia can easily produce and use a large amount Honkai energy that even Fu Hua think is incredible, and considering that Honkai characters have to resist their own Honkai energy that they can handle to not be affect by it negatively, with Elysia casually withstanding the amount of Honkai energy that she can output while completly unfazed, which should be at very least above to what BoS Kiana can resist
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You forget Master Archery, is pretty much a great bow user. Also should make a tabber/key for her sim version
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Does anyone know if this is Limited Resurrection or something else?
Candle's Fragrance: When Miss Pink Elf ♪ takes fatal DMG (and her HP drops to 0), a flawless crystal is created to revive her, restoring 100.0% of her HP. CD: 180s.
Candle's Fragrance: When Miss Pink Elf ♪ takes fatal DMG (and her HP drops to 0), a flawless crystal is created to revive her, restoring 100.0% of her HP. CD: 180s.
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I don't think so, since this is just gameplay thing, and even if we translate this into proper ability, it just Healing
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Got it, so since this is Self-Healing, is this justification good?
Self-Healing (With Candle's Fragrance, which is automatically activated when Elysia is defeated in battle, encasing her in a pink crystal that completely restores her power and stamina)
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By the way, I think this counts as a 4-A feat and Multi-Stellar LS feat
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By this point with the evidence I got, I am pretty much certain that HoO Elysia is 4-A, I mean, this is a feat from a character's strongest form who is consistently portrayed and stated to be one of strongest characters in HI3rd even in her Base Form, if the Verse was still back in the days that it was High 6-A at its peak aoutside the Will of the Honkai, I could understand the skepticism with these 4-A feats, but now that even the HI3rd Mid Tier characters are 4-B and the Solar System level being accepted for majority of the characters, and with Elysia being portrayed as one of the most powerful characters of the HI3rd, I think these 4-A feats are legitimate and consistent
And I can count in the fingers of my both hands the amount of characters that scales to HoO Elysia feats, which isn't much
And I can count in the fingers of my both hands the amount of characters that scales to HoO Elysia feats, which isn't much
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Miss pink elf makes the star dance lol.
Yes, I think this is multi-stellar LS.
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Also this would also be Massively FTL+, but it would only scale to Attack speed unless there's reason for it to scale to her other speeds.
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And I added MFTL+ attack speed on her profile
Could you check out Elysia's current sandbox profile? I feel like I'm now officially done with it and have nothing more to add or check out.
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The notes seem unnecesarry. Also we're currently discussing other upgrades for the HI3 ratings so you might wanna just wait a bit.
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Note 2 is only for the sandbox profile that I created, I didn't want to take all the credits for creating the profile. Note 1 is actually useful and the only one that should be posted officially next to the profile since it serves as a warning before someone creates a Versus Thread with Elysia that could affect a match-up outcome depending on which Elysia is being used, if its her Real self or her as a SIM
Interesting, which HI3rd ratings are being discussed? I intend to create a CRT upgrading the version Top Tiers to 4-A if that doesn't get in the way depending on what are you discussing. Also, since you don't have any problems with the profile besides the notes and since discussions about the ratings are still taking place, I can officially add the profile without the 4-A rating and its justifications and left it for later when I create the 4-The CRT?
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I'm not really sold on Acausality 4, and the EE thing is pretty much just data deletion. AE2 is wrong, because AE2 is immortality type 8 reliant on abstract concept/ideas. Also i don't remember Flame-Chaser in ER can't be damaged physically. Immortality type 1 should be moved to her base tabber, she pretty much a right from the start Herrschers.
Anyway, i will check more
I'm sure this is her SIM's feat, and it isn't exactly Time Rewind, more like another resistance to Data hax
Anyway, i will check more
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I'll look over P&A later.
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