Close-Range Tourney Match 5: Knight vs Jon Snow

[Naito-desu]

Knight vs Jon Snow

• 5 meters apart, Speeds equalized, standard equipment given
• Post-Resurrection Jon is used
• Ranged equipment restricted if there is any
• SBA otherwise

 

[RoTt35]

How skilled is the Knight?

 

[DrGreyman]

How skilled is the Knight?

though it should have basic battle knowledge, it isn't terribly skilled and mostly uses basic attacks. it has its charge, but other than that they just swing their sword, mostly using their armor and shield to tank blows.

 

[Cimafranca133]

Following.

 

[DrGreyman]

What does jon usually start with? The Knight will try to close the distance with their charge, bashing jon with their shield in the process, and then go for swinging their sword with wild abandon. they can use their charge every couple of seconds

 

[DrGreyman]

The stats are mostly similar, but Jon has higher intelligence while the knight has higher speed and lifting strength.

 

[RoTt35]

I'll comment later, I'm busy right now

 

[RoTt35]

Jon skillstomps the Knight, you can check this blog but in short Jon is stated to be the greatest swordsman by the Northmen, which should make him more skilled than his father Eddard, who in just two moves killed Gerold Hightower in single combat. Previous members of the Kingsguard, such as Gerold, are considered legends, and the current members are just mud soiling their names; for example, Barristan Selmy, another knight like Gerold, implied that he could kill 5 members of the Kingsguard like carving a cake, and the Kingsguard is an elite group of knights who are some of the greatest and most skilled warriors in the entire continent.

The Knight's armor and shield shouldn't be a problem for Jon, since his Valyrian steel sword can slice through steel like so much cloth. Also Jon (12,596,153.752 Joules in his first key) is stronger than the Knight (6,404,723.940267 Joules) by a ×1.9666973736, Jon in his second key is considerably stronger than before since he went from being easily overpowered by a White Walker to equally match blows with them, as well as being as strong than Valyrian steel.

Speed isn't a problem since it is equalized. So Jon's advantages are his far higher skill, AP, stamina, intelligence and his Valyrian steel sword; while the only advantage I see for the Knight is his higher LS

 

[DrGreyman]

well shit
the charge doesn't get equalized since it is a temp amp to the speed, but the knight cant really work around the other points
the armor should get the knight a little time, but clearly not much. just how quickly does the sword cut steel, could it get stuck in the thick steel of the shield? cus if he blocks or tries to parry the charge then the knight might be able to disarm jon with their superior LS. other than that tho it looks like jon has this.

can someone ping peppersalt? the other TABS supporter

 

[RoTt35]

just how quickly does the sword cut steel, could it get stuck in the thick steel of the shield?

Very easily

 

[DrGreyman]

Very easily

nice debating with you for like 3 seconds, but it's kinda not a debate at this point lol
This is a clip of the knight fighting just for reference. obviously, it looks like jon is more skilled tho

 

[DrGreyman]

i like the duality of this tourny
on one hand, yor vs riptor - long debates, evenly matched opponents fighting tooth and claw for an advantage
on the other hand, this

 

[DrGreyman]

could it get stuck in the thick steel of the shield? cus if he blocks or tries to parry the charge then the knight might be able to disarm jon with their superior LS. other than that tho it looks like jon has this.

your take on this?

 

[RoTt35]

I don't think the shield can block his Valyrian steel sword, Jon can easily pierce through it or try to block or dodge the charge. Even if he is hit and disarmed, Jon still has his dagger and he's an expert at Hand-to-Hand combat, plus his advantage in durability and stamina

 

[DrGreyman]

well, i got nothing else
TABS is a pretty simple game, and none of the units baring maybe the Teacher or the Fencer are particularly skilled in close quarters, Jon just looks like the more skilled combatant. that combined with the higher AP and dura means that the knight just has no way of dealing with him
if you have anything else to seal the deal, say it I guess

 

[Recon1511]

Jon Snow FRA

 

[DrGreyman]

jon snow fra

 

[RoTt35]

Well, I'll vote for Jon too

 

[SamanPatou]

Ye, JoJoSno FRA

 

[Cimafranca133]

Jon Snow FRA

 

[Naito-desu]

5 votes for Jon

 

[koopa3144]

Jon Snow FRA

 

[Cimafranca133]

5 votes for Jon

Jon Snow FRA

Knight: 0

Jon Snow: 6

Incon: 0

 

[Dinamic8000]

Jon Snow FRA

 

[DrGreyman]

grace then

 

[Cimafranca133]

Knight: 0

Jon Snow: 6

Incon: 0

Jon Snow FRA

Knight: 0

Jon Snow: 7

Incon: 0

 

[RoTt35]

Since grace is over, is it fine if I add the match to the profiles?

 

[Dinamic8000]

Since grace is over, is it fine if I add the match to the profiles?

Wouldn't a stomp by skill also counts as a stomp?

 

[Alexander]

jon wins,

this combat is like the knight vs the pirate queen, the pirate queen has great abilities in combat and blocking, apart from the fact that she can kick and block (something that few units do in tabs) which would be how this combat would go.