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Chowder vs Monika

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Who's the better 4th wall breaker? ovo

(Chowder has eaten Brain Grub, and this is a 30 Minute special)

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You are lucky Monika is basically a 10-B with tier 2 hax

Question, does Chowder have ways around non-existence and resistant to Plot Manip?
 
This was supposed to be 99% a joke thread and 1% serious. Now I have to play it off like I made a clever match.

Monika doesn't start off nonexistent or non-corporeal. She just becomes that I'd erased. And her resistance to plot manipulation is just her breaking out of the script. Chowder and co. do this so often that it actually makes up a near 20 minute video. Chowder, Schnitzel, and Mung have plot screwed each other easily before.
 
That's weird, people keep on telling me that she does.

Since Chowder also can break out of the script, his plot manip shoooouuuuld be superior to Monika, so maybe he can tell her that it's not her episode so gtfo. Monika can mindhax though.

I dunno if this is fair or not, because of the whole 10-B with Low 2-C stuff so I'll wait before voting.
 
>His plot manipulation being superior to Monika because h broke the script and she didn't

Except for the fact that the script in DDLC is a 2-C 4D thing. Chowder ain't breaking out of that.

Besides, I'm not sure whether Monika's plot Manipulation is 3D or 4D.
 
Plot manipulation is plot manipulation, man (no, I'm not saying that dimensionality is irrelevant, but as long as the verse or character isn't higher dimensional, it's tier-less). The only difference between Monika's and Chowder's is that Monika used it to wipe the universe and get a tier 2 rating.
 
Except Monika totally did break out of the script. And that said script killed time when it was destroyed, and span a small multiverse.

Also Chowder has no resistance to plot manip on his profile.
 
Lmao, who remembers that episode where they used a car wash to get money for the animation? 4th wall was pissed on, burnt, then pissed on again.....cycle never stops.
 
The real cal howard
No, we use her most recent version, which is the ending version. Plus dieing corrupts her file anyways, so it's pretty much the same thing.

Them using plot doesn't change that monika's plot is 4D and that she erases it plain out, so manipulating it is very hard against her anyways.
 
No, most recent version is meant for people with multiple keys.

We don't use the corpse Emperor in vs threads, even if it's still 4-B/A, and it's indeed the most recent version.
 
Again, her dieing still has the same effect. Plus she has a completly different mentality and more powers in this form. Non-existence is an ability she has listed, so we assume she has it
 
Chowder's plot manip being stronger than Monika's means it doesn't matter if she is non-existent, if he says she's not part of the episode, she's not.
 
Chowder can exist even when there is no plot.

Throwback to the car wash episode, the show literally had no budget to even have a show and Chowder still survived in the end. So even if Monika erases the entire plot, Chowder can bring the plot back after a good car wash. (I wish I was joking)
 
Then inconclusive. Chowder can't out-plot Monika and she can't kill Chowder for good.
 
The rules for incap require Monika to not actively do anything in order to win. Her destroying realities over and over again for eternity does not count as incap.
 
Sir Ovens said:
The rules for incap require Monika to not actively do anything in order to win. Her destroying realities over and over again for eternity does not count as incap.
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Mind quoting that?

Because this: or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day

does not in any way say that you cannot keep harming them, only that they cannot be able to harm you
 
Also, Chowder and co. can exist when they don't have a show at all, so Monika's destruction of the plot won't...affect him.

And there's a reason why I said this is a 30 minute special ovo.
 
The real cal howard said:
Also, Chowder and co. can exist when they don't have a show at all, so Monika's destruction of the plot won't...affect him.
And there's a reason why I said this is a 30 minute special ovo.
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The destruction of the plot was because that makes him using plot manipulation impossible.

Does he resist being mind-haxed?
 
The real cal howard said:
Also, Chowder and co. can exist when they don't have a show at all, so Monika's destruction of the plot won't...affect him.

And there's a reason why I said this is a 30 minute special ovo.
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The last time they had a 30 min special, Chowder got married and the show ended.

I'm not going through that again. OvO
 
I saw it a long time ago. He made shit his culinary speciality. Still, does he resist mind hax? Cuz eventualy monika is just going to use that
 
Her mind manipulation is a result of her plot manipulation, iirc, so it'd put us back in square one.
 
No, its data manipulation. She litiraly states that she has been messing with their chr files. The only thing she ever used plot for was bloicking the mc in one place for the weekend
 
Dude, that's part of the plot. Character files relate to the plot of DDLC, with how insanely meta it is.

Not to mention that Chowder doesn't have character files.
 
The real cal howard said:
Dude, that's part of the plot. Character files relate to the plot of DDLC, with how insanely meta it is.
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No. The script is very different from the character files in ddlc. Colleration=/=causation
 
First off, it's correlation, not colleration. Second off, coming from a writer, yes, they're very interrelated.
 
The fact that your a writer doesn't really matter, does it. What a character act like matters to the plot, but a chr file does not depend on it, and the script is separated from the files
 
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