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Chinaman Discussion Thread

Bruh

"1. In front of the infinite thinking of the Dao of Heaven, the infinite dimension of the infinite dimension plus the infinite dimension plus the infinite dimension plus the infinite dimension, in front of it, it is not even a fundamental particle. For it, a trillion trillion-dimensional space is not as good as an atom. In other words, it is easier for it to destroy a trillion trillion-dimensional spaces than it blows away a single speck of dust. Because its ability is the limitless thinking of the Tao of Heaven, and the unlimited thinking of the Tao of Heaven can be used to turn all the things that come out of the mind into reality. All existing, non-existent, known, unknown and all fantasies are part of the infinite thinking of heaven, containing infinitely many infinite dimensional universes, as well as all reality, animation, comics and all fantasy worlds. When a creature creates a new fantasy system through fantasy, the fantasy system automatically becomes a part of the infinite thinking of heaven."
 
Gasper said:
Bruh

"1. In front of the infinite thinking of the Dao of Heaven, the infinite dimension of the infinite dimension plus the infinite dimension plus the infinite dimension plus the infinite dimension, in front of it, it is not even a fundamental particle. For it, a trillion trillion-dimensional space is not as good as an atom. In other words, it is easier for it to destroy a trillion trillion-dimensional spaces than it blows away a single speck of dust. Because its ability is the limitless thinking of the Tao of Heaven, and the unlimited thinking of the Tao of Heaven can be used to turn all the things that come out of the mind into reality. All existing, non-existent, known, unknown and all fantasies are part of the infinite thinking of heaven, containing infinitely many infinite dimensional universes, as well as all reality, animation, comics and all fantasy worlds. When a creature creates a new fantasy system through fantasy, the fantasy system automatically becomes a part of the infinite thinking of heaven."
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Okay okay, so I hope everyone can trust my words (I'll put the explanation in a spoiler but I'll try not to clog everything) I might be wrong on the tiering, feel free to correct it if someone wants!

The lowest thing in cosmology is called a monolithic universe, which is basically an infinite universe (High 3-A?)

1. Monolithic universe - is a complete single universe with perfect physical rules. An infinite single universe, everything is infinite, with countless cosmic Great Walls, super galaxy clusters, galaxy clusters, star fields, galaxies, nebulae, galaxies, stars, black holes, meteorites, boundless, no beginning, no end, endless. , the universe is the unity of all time, space and its contents, including all matter and energy such as planets, stars, galaxies, intergalactic space, and subatomic particles

above it, there are infinite multiverses (both in number and size although some have a special attribute I've yet to find one worth mentioning)

However, it is to note that a multiverse can have at most 11 dimensions (I can find the exact sentence, but again, no point in clogging more than necessary) So probably 1-B? It's 100% mathematical dimensions and each dimension needs an "infinitely bigger brain" to comprehend.

2. Multiverse - It consists of countless parallel universes such as single universes, alternative universes, pocket universes, etc. The parallel universe with infinite possibilities contains countless time lines, time axes, time points, and time divisions. Each parallel universe in the infinite number of parallel universes has different beginnings and endings, different stories, in this parallel universe. In the universe, you are alive, in other parallel universes you are dead, in other parallel universes you may be a mortal, an alien, a god, a fairy, a creator god, a creator, a demon, An angel, a monster, a demon, a cat, a dog, a bird, a stone, a flower, a tree, a book, a newborn child, a rich young master, a The protagonist, an author, a strong man, a supreme being, everything is possible.

Then, we begin the interesting part. Above multiverses, there is a level called Super-Universe which can contain at least 2 multiverses to an infinite number. (Again some have special attributes, which I'll detail because it's important for scaling the verse)

3. Super Universe - A super Universe contains at least two multiverses, and at most it is unknown. Some super-multiverses exist independently and are not within the super-universe. Has an infinite multiverse, a collection of multiverses. A collection of infinite possibilities, including all known, unknown, all possible, impossible, all existence, all non-existence, all civilization, all imagination, all fantasy, and all reality.

Now, I don't know if only with the description it warrants a tier/dimensionality above, but what if there is a universe than can contain an Aleph1 to ??? location?

In the world view of the super-dimensional shuttle Protoss, they live in a huge, bottomless abyss-like realm, with endless levels extending infinitely to the "depth of the abyss", and they can only be in the "most surface" wandering. The "deeper" the level is in, the higher it is, and it represents a stronger level of power. The more advanced and grand worlds of "Deep abyss" fascinate and yearn for the shuttlers, and their pursuit of grand fields and powerful forces has reached the extreme. The breakthrough from finite to infinite dimensions has allowed certain shuttlers to enter "a deeper layer of the surface of the abyss", so they are known as "pioneers of the abyss". When the pioneers reached the infinite dimension, they discovered a much higher complex intelligence than they were when they were the extra-dimensional shuttle protoss (theoretically, they can exist in infinite time will be bound by those narrow concepts of "the past and the future" in one-dimensional time.

However, since their real stories are beyond the imagination and complete description of human beings, their experiences can only be described according to ordinary people's time view. In practice, their stories develop in an infinite number of levels beyond "sequence"). The ordinary infinite dimension is just the starting point, because the "infinity" here is only equivalent to Aleph zero, and there is a more grand infinity behind it. The pioneers of the abyss began to explore the "deeper depths of the abyss" with a "speed" far exceeding the ordinary "infinitely fast", and the total number of space-time dimensions traversed far exceeded the maximum infinity that human mathematics could construct. There is a never-ending journey within that "abyss" called "infinite-dimensional multi-space-time continuum" (the "infinity" in the "infinite-dimensional multi-space-time continuum" is a super-high-order infinity).

In addition to the ordinary super-dimensional shuttle protoss and those extraordinary abyss pioneers among them, there are countless races similar to them in the infinite dimensional multi-space-time continuum. Civilizations belonging to a three-dimensional multiverse, even if they go to four-dimensional space, still cannot escape the control of the administrator of the multiverse they originally resided in. This limitation is completely absent for those races that jump between dimensions at will, allowing their bodies to stretch freely in numerous dimensions, viewing an infinite number of worlds from an infinite number of directions ( Even in a finite number of dimensions, it is possible to observe an infinite number of worlds from an infinite number of directions, and at any point on a two-dimensional plane, lines can be drawn that point to an infinite number of different directions).

From what I've understood, it "should" be into 1-A territory, but exactly I don't know so I'll assume baseline for the sake of it.

Above Super-Universes are Almighty Universes/Omnipotent Universes which are defined as such :

Fourth, the omnipotent universe - the core universe composed of countless super universes, countless multiverses and countless other universes. In the omnipotent universe, there are infinitely many infinite dimensions (infinite dimensions) universes of infinite multiple powers. Dimensional universes, metaverses, bubble universes, narrative universes, system universes, parallel universes, multiverses, quantum universes, particle universes, quark universes, fundamental universes, main universes, parent universes, child universes, plane universes, outer universes, etc. All universes, more comprehensive than the supermembrane theory, are omnipresent, containing all ideologies, spaces, laws, dimensions, and the omnipotent core universe containing all known and unknown things.

Again, I don't know if it warrants a tier above solely because of that, but in any case, there is more, and my god.

There is a thing in that novel that is called "extra-dimensions" which exist outside every universe but still reside within "the infinite omnipotent universe" (depending on said extra-dimension)

And well, I've asked a friend of mine to evaluate one of the ten extra-dimension, by all means maybe we are wrong, but we defined it at the very least at uncountable into tier 0, but again, I'll let you decide (very lengthy text incoming)

Destiny Source Nucleus Mountain :

Destiny Source Nucleus Mountain, the sacred place of the mystery of destiny and the core of the source, is an infinitely high and infinite ultimate holy mountain. It exists in the depths of the invisible and boundless void of the extra-dimensional universe of destiny. It rules the entire universe of extra-dimensional destiny and has a billion destiny. Source Nuclear Corps.

The Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain is located outside all these forms of "things" and countless more grand "things", overlooking all of them (the magnitude and grandeur of this "everything" is known only by the Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain. Destiny Source Nucleus The mountain can add new "everythings" without limit on top of this "everything", but no matter how many are added, it is always above them). Even if you write endlessly according to the "format" of everything, you will not be able to glimpse the "Supreme Throne" that belongs to it forever, and you will not even have the qualification to look up.


This supreme "ultimate existence" is forever watching over this vast and boundless territory, standing above the vast world formed by the boundless "everything". When you cross the obstacle that could not be broken, you have surpassed the "end" of the "first part" and opened a new journey of "the second part" (The Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain is the "first door" that guards the "first door". God of Creation", the Creator and Absolute Supreme of "Part One"). When you cross this threshold and come to the back of the "first door", it is like a young life that has just hatched from an egg shell, breaking out of its own narrow closed world. Looking at the "rear", the terrifying "complex" and "huge" are intertwined, condensing into an extremely crazy "picture". In the "everything" out there, every tiny "crack" is mingled with countless mysteries that you've never explored before.


You are just passing them on this journey, never carefully looking for them in every corner of the world; you are just climbing upwards, never paying attention to the ultimate truth hidden in every level... ...they are hidden in the flickering of the "stars", in the chants of the "troubadours", in every flow of "consciousness"...but never really discovered.

When you see through their "essence", you will find that there are too many more advanced things condensed in the countless levels you have passed before, just like an ordinary physical phenomenon needs many complex theorems to be fully described. In those "upward" climbing journeys just now, every level you pass has countless more "directions" (each "direction" has an infinitely grand and jumping division.

Every "division" of the world level that you just explored is the smallest part after omitting the infinite... Increase each "section" infinitely, and continue to infinitely "expand" on the basis of the original "format" ”, “explain”… it just becomes a little exaggerated and complicated. There is no "essential" improvement, always extending endlessly under the "parts" of a higher level) ... and the journey you have just experienced is just a jump in a certain "direction", in some It's just a fixed "place". I skipped the countless "directions" and endless journeys that were originally unfinished, took "everything" in one stroke, and went directly to the "above" of the Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain to start a new journey.

Every step forward is to step into countless "new concepts" and their "extensions" and "divergence"; every step forward is to discard everything that was used to improve the level before (the previous All the "concepts" of the sect are combined and superimposed in all ways to carry out the "division of the world level" without touching any of the "new concepts" that follow)... Even the "walking" itself will undergo endless changes. Because in the infinite level of the "concept" of "walking", in order to continuously break through obstacles and climb to higher and farther positions, you need to "walk" in countless other forms... Every step of the "realm" is real, and the breakthrough and improvement in the "realm" you have made are also real. But if you look at all this from a grander "angle", you will find that you have not even successfully completed the "first step".


When you explore countless new "angles" and start to climb upwards (every "step" requires exploring countless new "angles"), in the "bottom of the world" and "above the endless level without the top" The world above" shuttles infinitely... through countless brand new "gates", the one that greets you "above" you is the source core of destiny.

Is the "Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain" that "crossed" before, the real Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain? The journey just now was nothing more than a "phantom" called "Fate Source Nuclear Mountain" in a ridiculous hallucination. Every time you break through the level of a "Fate Source Nuclear Mountain", you will enter the field of another "Fate Source Nuclear Holy Land". The "road" you pass is surrounded by many versions of the "Fate Source Nuclear Mountain". In this infinite "version", you can see its initial stage and the endless, complex and various higher "versions" that follow (like the different periods that a certain artist's work has gone through, From a simple geometric figure to a perfect artwork...the progress is never-ending.

From the very first "Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain One" to "Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain Two", then to "Three", "Fourth"... Every "version" to the next "version" needs to add countless new "The way the world is constructed" and countless more complex "structural components"; each "version" is the "ultimate superposition" of all the "combinations" of "innumerable" different "systems", and the Each is a collection of endless "systems"... Every "level division method" in the "system" requires "innumerable" completely different "transition methods" between any two tiny levels. It can be reached only by adding infinite levels and progressive "modes" between different levels, and there are endless "types").

Although you can break through higher-level "versions" without limit, you are always wandering in the infinite labyrinth created by Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain (the process of spinning around here is also an endless improvement). No matter how many "versions" we "cross", we can't get out of this "maze" with no "exit"~www.mtlnovel.com~ can only break through countless deeper "mazes" by means of "forcibly surpassing" infinite times... ...Finally forcibly surpassed the "noumenon" of the nuclear mountain of the source of destiny (and also surpassed the "noumenon" of the "noumenon" of its "noumenon"...beyond the entire "source of destiny" above the "innumerable endless processes" The Nuclear Mountain System"), into a true exploration of the "Second Part" journey.


The "Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain System" is located at the "origin" of the infinitely extending "number axis", and next to it are densely arranged many "small dots" that it cannot compare with (this is just a metaphor. In fact, they are at different levels. The sum of the "system" and the "supreme" within it, not the "dots" that are closely packed together). Every "point" on this "number line" is an "existence" that cannot be surpassed by the previous part; every "point" here will derive endless branches (and the "point" on each branch, It will also continue to derive infinite "new number axes"... No matter how it is derived, it can't surpass the next "point" on the original "number axis")... "The Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain System and the weakest in a certain world The gap between existences cannot be broken through countless repetitions of the 'journey of self-improvement' between the weakest in the 'Fate Source Nuclear Holy Land System' and all the Destiny Source Nuclear Holy Land Systems; The number of times that all the Destiny Origin Core Holy Land exhausts all wisdom cannot comprehend; the countless levels of division above this weakest are beyond the reach of all the divisions that Destiny Origin Core Holy Land can imagine”… ...the "innumerable kinds of low-level descriptions" such as these are all classified in areas that even the lowest-level branch of the "origin" where the "Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain System" is located cannot enter (including countless branches on branches, and branches on branches) branch on...).

Before anything, I want to say that it is very much possible that the omnipotent universe rank WAY higher than that. Simply because, if we assume each extra-dimension can recreate the "everything", it should mean it can recreate other extra-dimension too, including tier 0 stuff and make it even stronger.

Above it is the Almighty Dimensional Void Sea. It contains an infinite number of omnipotent universes. Again I suppose it should warrant some superiority over the thing below it, especially because of the bolded paragraph.


5. Almighty Dimensional Void Sea, also known as Almighty Universe Sea, is a collection of infinite almighty universes. A drop of water has infinitely nested infinite almighty universes, infinite dimensions, infinite dimensions, and infinite time and space.

In the boundless Void Sea of Omnipotence, there are endless Almighty Cosmic Bubbles floating. These Almighty Cosmic Bubbles are assembled in groups. Like a towering tree, there are also endless parallel almighty universe bubbles growing on it, and the infinite almighty universe bubbles are just infinite almighty universes.

The omnipotent dimension void sea is the origin and end of all births, and the final destination and beginning of the infinite dimension universe community. Infinite all-powerful cosmic communities and multidimensional oceans were born here and destroyed here. Here, for the existence that cannot set foot here, it is unthinkable, unthinkable, unthinkable, unnameable, unimaginable.

Every dimensional void here is full of incredible miracles~www.mtlnovel.com~ The endless avenues of the heavens rise and fall here. The endless avenues of the heavens are the real avenues, literally. It's not some kind of Dao Law, it's the real Dao. Every avenue is vertical and horizontal, the source of the only way. Everything here is unimaginable, everything that exists here does not exist, there is an incredible and indescribable greatness between existence and non-existence. Here, there is a collision that is indescribable, unspeakable, unimaginable. The universe, time and space, dimensions, dimensions, matter, energy, cause and effect, laws, etc. This is the Void Sea of the Almighty Dimension, where the infinite, infinite, infinite and infinite Almighty Universe community is born and destroyed.

Here is infinite and infinite, infinite and incredible.

No language can describe everything here. This is the infinite-dimensional void ocean of the ancestral universe. If you want to set foot here or jump out of here, you must at least have the power of the universe beyond the omnipotent level to do it. That is to say, completely surpassing the almighty universe, being able to freely travel through the levels of the almighty universes, and the cosmic powerhouses who truly step into the peak high-dimensional level can only walk to the almighty dimension void sea or jump out of the almighty dimension void sea, the real ancestor of shuttle. Infinite all-powerful universes and infinite dimensional space-time of the universe.

There are infinite almighty dimension void seas in the primordial ancestral universe, and each omnipotent dimension void sea has mysterious and unknown terrifying existences. They are crawling in infinite high dimensions, using everything in the infinite almighty universe as chess pieces, play against each other.

Those ordinary almighty universe or almighty universe-level powers, existences, forces, and even some cosmic powers beyond the almighty universe-level, are like ants and insignificant to them. Because they haven't reached this step, all the creatures below are illusory and insignificant to them.

Almighty Dimension The Void Sea contains infinite, infinitely numerous omnipotent universes, and is a collection of infinite omnipotent universes, transcending all universes, time, space, planes, time and space, world, dimension, quadrant, reality, dimension, universe, narrative, domain , phase, hierarchy, causality, existence itself, class, values, conceptual definition, series setting, world view, etc., the sum of everything, beyond all universe and all reality, all existence and all nonexistence, universe, time , space, dimension, dimension plus all recursion and every iteration. The entire almighty dimensional void sea contains all unimaginable things that no life or consciousness can imagine, and all the forms of existence such as the omnipotent universe, infinite dimensions and infinite reality are born in it. Beyond omnipotence, omnipresence, encompassing, encompassing, and even devouring all beings, thus transforming into all forms of source power, absolute nothingness, primordial ether, chaotic primordial, existence itself, and transcendence encompassing, all growth (recursion) , iteration...) and all existence and non-existence are attributed to the almighty dimension void sea.

Then we reach the "peak" of the cosmology, which is the Original Ancestral Universe, which views EVERYTHING below it as non-existent particles.


6. The original ancestral universe, also known as the original original universe, the final universe, and the ancestral universe, is the highest-dimensional "entire universe" composed of infinite almighty dimensional void seas, infinite almighty universes, and infinite other universes. Beyond all language description and logic, including all omnipotence, core, eternity, infinity, narrative, reality, universe, plane, dimension, dimension, etc., all cosmology and everything.

All logical thinking and conceptual systems...and the worldviews, things, narratives, universes, dimensions, and dimensions that they refer to and cannot be referred to are just non-existent particles that are an infinite part of the primordial universe. The origin of all narratives and cosmology, narrative concepts and themselves are born from the infinite source universe. Any narrative cosmology, no matter how much you stack boxes or play magic stick philosophy, is all born from here, and it is divided into a minimum A high-level narrative contains all the “yes” and “nots” of everything that is meaningful and meaningless, definable and indefinable, in which a trivial particle transcends all mathematical concepts (far beyond Absolutely true infinity and number universe), but also contains absolute true infinity, which contains everything inside and has any properties (including holographic properties), and the outer ceiling-level cosmology, and narrative echelons, ladders, and matrices are One of them was created by being dissolved into countless cosmic sources by the primordial beings in the primordial ancestral universe.

The primordial ancestral universe is the oldest, most developed, cruelest and ultimate supreme ancestral universe of all time and space, including all universes, time and space, dimensions, dimensions, nothingness, vacuum, origin, civilization..., all The incomprehensible and incomprehensible categories are one part of its infinity, and it is the source and ancestor of everything that is absolutely infinite, so it is called the original origin universe, also known as the original origin universe, the final universe, and the ancestral universe.


The primordial ancestral universe, also known as the final universe, is the final state of everything; the ultimate essence of everything in the universe, absolutely everything, transcendental logic... and so on.

What is the ultimate? The final destination, the one that reaches the top of the pole.

End, represents the end, all thinking, cause and effect, logic, destiny, time, world, dimension, universe, world, dimension, plane, setting, realm, language, text, history, discipline, known, unknown, unknowable , beyond cognition, existence, non-existence, positive existence, anti-existence, tangible, intangible, indeterminate, unknown, conceivable, unthinkable, speakable, ineffable, nameable, indescribable, describeable, indescribable, Exceedable, Transcended, Unsurpassable, Transcending, Omnipotent, Omniscient, Not Omnipotent, Not Omniscient, Not Omnipotent, Not Omniscient, Not Thought, Not Not Thought, Not Not Not Thought... All here, gathered as... ... a little... infinitely small.

Pole, represents the apex, absolutely everything, the highest point that everything can reach, it can be called... the extremity. It is the absolute supreme, the absolute stalwart, the absolute greatest, the absolute strongest, the absolute infinite, the absolute pinnacle, the absolute supreme.

And the embodiment of this "ultimate" is called... the ultimate universe, that is, the ultimate supreme primordial universe.

The primordial ancestral universe is the absolute and final universe of the highest dimension. It is truly above everything, and cannot be selected or selected by thoughts. It is the highest and highest, unprovoked and unprovoked. All language category expressions cannot contain it. This is meaningless. Stupid thing, at this level, it will no longer interfere with everything. It is stupid to just look down at the ants at the highest peak and watch the real peak.


The primordial ancestral universe is infinite, and it covers all the expression categories known to all spirits, such as definition language concepts that cannot be imagined, cannot be refuted, including anti-inclusion, forcible inclusion and forcible, transcendence, anti-transcendence, and anti-forced inclusion. It is no longer worth mentioning these bragging rights to the extreme logic. Everything here has become nothing, an infinite coverage, an infinite cage, an infinite supreme, an infinite origin, and an infinite end.

The primordial ancestral universe is also known as the original origin universe, the final universe, and the ancestral universe. The origin of the origin means the original origin. The primordial ancestral universe is the source and ancestor of all universes. It is the ultimate supreme ancestral universe. It is the transcendence of all mysterious unknowns The origin of the indescribable, the origin of all that is supreme, the eternal and the powerful, the origin of all unimaginable, the origin of all the unimaginable, the origin of everything that is indescribable, the origin of all that is beyond the limits of omnipotence, the origin of all rankings The origin of ascending and descending arbitrarily, the origin of the vast and magnificent realms of all dimensions, the origin of all blank writing stories, the origin of all Taoist ancestors that cannot be said, the origin of all Buddhas and Tathagatas that cannot be comprehended, the origin of all immortals that cannot be desecrated The source, the source of the irreversibility of all wills, the source of all existence, the source of non-existence, the source of indestructibility, the source of indestructibility of all worlds and the universe, the source of all essential things that cannot be created, the source of all aspects of the universe, the source of immutability, and the source of all things. The origin of all realms and hierarchies that cannot be divided, the origin of all self-definitions that cannot be changed, the origin of all mysterious qi that cannot be clearly understood, the origin of all superimposed nested loops that cannot be reached, and the origin of all infinite infinite powers. The origin of infinite dimensions, the origin of the collection of all knowledgeable contents of life, the origin of all forms of existence such as space-time dimensions and cosmic reality...

So it should warrant a superiority over everything else but wait there is more! See the bolded part? Well, to be fair, there is another location of the verse that I didn't mention until now, it is the "narrative ladder".

To explain in brief terms, it's a hierarchy of stories. An infinite one (and maybe even more?) at that. I don't know where to place it in cosmology, but one thing is sure, it's by all means under the Original Ancestral Universe.

Narrative Complete Ladder: An infinite, infinitely high cosmic ultimate ladder, existing in the depths of the mysterious and unknown ultimate extra dimension, mysterious and unpredictable, with no beginning and no end, and infinite mystery.

The complete narrative ladder, also known as the narrative ladder, is composed of infinite layers of narrative layers that are infinitely superimposed upwards.

The process is as follows: First, the highest narrative narrates an infinite number of narratives down, and each narrative in the infinite number of narratives narrates an infinite number of narrations. This infinite multiplied by each narration in the infinite number of narratives narrates downward strips again. And so on in an infinite loop.

And the narration will not be narrated only once, it will continue to narrate, the highest narrative will narrate infinite narrations in one time period, and then infinitely loop, and in the second time period, it will be a new infinite narration. Infinite loop again.


And the time of the upper and lower narratives is inconsistent, the infinite time of the lower narrative to the upper narrative is just the few seconds it takes you to read/write the infinite time setting.

That is to say, the second-level narrative can default to infinite time, and there are sub-level narratives in each narrative, and there are infinite one sub-level, infinite countable sub-level, and infinite infinite sub-level.

In addition, the lower narrative can never reach the upper narrative unless there is a higher narrative intervening.

The complete ladder of narrative completely contains all stories and narrative layers. When the characters in one story write another story, that is, when the story contains stories, there will be different levels of stories, that is, different narrative layers, and dimensions, multiple The universe, the almighty universe, reality, etc. have different settings. The narrative layer is the definition of the work itself, not the role or plot of the story. Therefore, all virtual settings are invalid for narrative, and any kind of metaphysics is weaker than narrative. , all fictional works must be contained and controlled by the complete ladder of narrative.

The stories in each layer of the narrative complete ladder are created and controlled by the higher narrative. The absolute relationship between this work and the author can never be touched by any setting and plot, and such continuous ascension is the Infinite, that is, a complete narrative ladder (including countless narrative layers), if some characters set by all elements can break through the narrative layer, they need to break the fourth wall (not just to feel the author, but to completely reach the author's level) , can be counted as a narrative breakthrough.

Above all this is the top-level narrator, who creates the existence of all virtual narratives. Even if the virtual character breaks through the narrative layer, it is the arrangement of the top-level narrator, which cannot be recognized, understood, and touched by any virtual character. Want to control all the fate of the avatar, all the ceiling.


Now, why is that place important? Well, here is the important part of it: there will be different levels of stories, that is, different narrative layers, and dimensions, multiple The universe, the almighty universe, reality, etc. have different settings. The narrative layer is the definition of the work itself, not the role or plot of the story.

But that alone doesn't grant anything, so I'll use another description given later :

Among these immeasurable stories, one of the stories can be that everyone is beyond God, everyone is beyond the law, everyone is beyond logic, and everyone is supreme, far beyond time and space, far Beyond the boundaries of multiple realities, far beyond all highest worlds (universes).

That last part, "far beyond all highest worlds/universes" means that within a story, characters can transcend an "original ancestral universe" while it retains its original setting of being above everything else. Moreover, since the setting of universes can be changed in every story, it means there exists bigger cosmology within the narrative ladder.

At that point, I don't know if it is enough to warrant even more into tier 0. Technically, in each story that recreates the exact same cosmology as the novel, the story should contain some tier 0 stuff, which would make it an infinite hierarchy of tier 0 that ends up within the True Original Ancestral Universe.

There are some peculiarities I didn't mention, like the others' extra-dimension or the difference between each universes law, but eh, I think it's enough for now to get a rough idea.

Please have mercy on my soul.
 
That moment when you try to scale a novel, you haven't read at all, go on random chapters out of 7000? and find some math, omnipotent stuff then scale it cause why not, without actually reading the novel to get the whole context and see how it reaches that point. Did I mention its not even a human translated novel, but a MTL one with a bad tl.

Let's not forget "apophatic" concept that keeps getting more popular since a few months ago "X can't be described and understand" guess most concepts/powers on wiki are apophatic for a lot of users.

"internet brainrot is very much a thing" - Bambu
 
Zaratthustra said:
That moment when you try to scale a novel, you haven't read at all, go on random chapters out of 7000? and find some math, omnipotent stuff then scale it cause why not, without actually reading the novel to get the whole context and see how it reaches that point. Did I mention its not even a human translated novel, but a MTL one with a bad tl.

Let's not forget "apophatic" concept that keeps getting more popular since a few months ago "X can't be described and understand" guess most concepts/powers on wiki are apophatic for a lot of users.

"internet brainrot is very much a thing" - Bambu
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By all means, you're right, but eh, at least I had a great time with my friend trying to decipher that nonsense so, nothing much lost to be fair.
 
Zaratthustra said:
That moment when you try to scale a novel, you haven't read at all, go on random chapters out of 7000? and find some math, omnipotent stuff then scale it cause why not, without actually reading the novel to get the whole context and see how it reaches that point. Did I mention its not even a human translated novel, but a MTL one with a bad tl.

Let's not forget "apophatic" concept that keeps getting more popular since a few months ago "X can't be described and understand" guess most concepts/powers on wiki are apophatic for a lot of users.

"internet brainrot is very much a thing" - Bambu
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lol
 
SweetDao said:
Okay okay, so I hope everyone can trust my words (I'll put the explanation in a spoiler but I'll try not to clog everything) I might be wrong on the tiering, feel free to correct it if someone wants!

The lowest thing in cosmology is called a monolithic universe, which is basically an infinite universe (High 3-A?)

1. Monolithic universe - is a complete single universe with perfect physical rules. An infinite single universe, everything is infinite, with countless cosmic Great Walls, super galaxy clusters, galaxy clusters, star fields, galaxies, nebulae, galaxies, stars, black holes, meteorites, boundless, no beginning, no end, endless. , the universe is the unity of all time, space and its contents, including all matter and energy such as planets, stars, galaxies, intergalactic space, and subatomic particles

above it, there are infinite multiverses (both in number and size although some have a special attribute I've yet to find one worth mentioning)

However, it is to note that a multiverse can have at most 11 dimensions (I can find the exact sentence, but again, no point in clogging more than necessary) So probably 1-B? It's 100% mathematical dimensions and each dimension needs an "infinitely bigger brain" to comprehend.

2. Multiverse - It consists of countless parallel universes such as single universes, alternative universes, pocket universes, etc. The parallel universe with infinite possibilities contains countless time lines, time axes, time points, and time divisions. Each parallel universe in the infinite number of parallel universes has different beginnings and endings, different stories, in this parallel universe. In the universe, you are alive, in other parallel universes you are dead, in other parallel universes you may be a mortal, an alien, a god, a fairy, a creator god, a creator, a demon, An angel, a monster, a demon, a cat, a dog, a bird, a stone, a flower, a tree, a book, a newborn child, a rich young master, a The protagonist, an author, a strong man, a supreme being, everything is possible.

Then, we begin the interesting part. Above multiverses, there is a level called Super-Universe which can contain at least 2 multiverses to an infinite number. (Again some have special attributes, which I'll detail because it's important for scaling the verse)

3. Super Universe - A super Universe contains at least two multiverses, and at most it is unknown. Some super-multiverses exist independently and are not within the super-universe. Has an infinite multiverse, a collection of multiverses. A collection of infinite possibilities, including all known, unknown, all possible, impossible, all existence, all non-existence, all civilization, all imagination, all fantasy, and all reality.

Now, I don't know if only with the description it warrants a tier/dimensionality above, but what if there is a universe than can contain an Aleph1 to ??? location?

In the world view of the super-dimensional shuttle Protoss, they live in a huge, bottomless abyss-like realm, with endless levels extending infinitely to the "depth of the abyss", and they can only be in the "most surface" wandering. The "deeper" the level is in, the higher it is, and it represents a stronger level of power. The more advanced and grand worlds of "Deep abyss" fascinate and yearn for the shuttlers, and their pursuit of grand fields and powerful forces has reached the extreme. The breakthrough from finite to infinite dimensions has allowed certain shuttlers to enter "a deeper layer of the surface of the abyss", so they are known as "pioneers of the abyss". When the pioneers reached the infinite dimension, they discovered a much higher complex intelligence than they were when they were the extra-dimensional shuttle protoss (theoretically, they can exist in infinite time will be bound by those narrow concepts of "the past and the future" in one-dimensional time.

However, since their real stories are beyond the imagination and complete description of human beings, their experiences can only be described according to ordinary people's time view. In practice, their stories develop in an infinite number of levels beyond "sequence"). The ordinary infinite dimension is just the starting point, because the "infinity" here is only equivalent to Aleph zero, and there is a more grand infinity behind it. The pioneers of the abyss began to explore the "deeper depths of the abyss" with a "speed" far exceeding the ordinary "infinitely fast", and the total number of space-time dimensions traversed far exceeded the maximum infinity that human mathematics could construct. There is a never-ending journey within that "abyss" called "infinite-dimensional multi-space-time continuum" (the "infinity" in the "infinite-dimensional multi-space-time continuum" is a super-high-order infinity).

In addition to the ordinary super-dimensional shuttle protoss and those extraordinary abyss pioneers among them, there are countless races similar to them in the infinite dimensional multi-space-time continuum. Civilizations belonging to a three-dimensional multiverse, even if they go to four-dimensional space, still cannot escape the control of the administrator of the multiverse they originally resided in. This limitation is completely absent for those races that jump between dimensions at will, allowing their bodies to stretch freely in numerous dimensions, viewing an infinite number of worlds from an infinite number of directions ( Even in a finite number of dimensions, it is possible to observe an infinite number of worlds from an infinite number of directions, and at any point on a two-dimensional plane, lines can be drawn that point to an infinite number of different directions).

From what I've understood, it "should" be into 1-A territory, but exactly I don't know so I'll assume baseline for the sake of it.

Above Super-Universes are Almighty Universes/Omnipotent Universes which are defined as such :

Fourth, the omnipotent universe - the core universe composed of countless super universes, countless multiverses and countless other universes. In the omnipotent universe, there are infinitely many infinite dimensions (infinite dimensions) universes of infinite multiple powers. Dimensional universes, metaverses, bubble universes, narrative universes, system universes, parallel universes, multiverses, quantum universes, particle universes, quark universes, fundamental universes, main universes, parent universes, child universes, plane universes, outer universes, etc. All universes, more comprehensive than the supermembrane theory, are omnipresent, containing all ideologies, spaces, laws, dimensions, and the omnipotent core universe containing all known and unknown things.

Again, I don't know if it warrants a tier above solely because of that, but in any case, there is more, and my god.

There is a thing in that novel that is called "extra-dimensions" which exist outside every universe but still reside within "the infinite omnipotent universe" (depending on said extra-dimension)

And well, I've asked a friend of mine to evaluate one of the ten extra-dimension, by all means maybe we are wrong, but we defined it at the very least at uncountable into tier 0, but again, I'll let you decide (very lengthy text incoming)

Destiny Source Nucleus Mountain :

Destiny Source Nucleus Mountain, the sacred place of the mystery of destiny and the core of the source, is an infinitely high and infinite ultimate holy mountain. It exists in the depths of the invisible and boundless void of the extra-dimensional universe of destiny. It rules the entire universe of extra-dimensional destiny and has a billion destiny. Source Nuclear Corps.

The Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain is located outside all these forms of "things" and countless more grand "things", overlooking all of them (the magnitude and grandeur of this "everything" is known only by the Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain. Destiny Source Nucleus The mountain can add new "everythings" without limit on top of this "everything", but no matter how many are added, it is always above them). Even if you write endlessly according to the "format" of everything, you will not be able to glimpse the "Supreme Throne" that belongs to it forever, and you will not even have the qualification to look up.


This supreme "ultimate existence" is forever watching over this vast and boundless territory, standing above the vast world formed by the boundless "everything". When you cross the obstacle that could not be broken, you have surpassed the "end" of the "first part" and opened a new journey of "the second part" (The Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain is the "first door" that guards the "first door". God of Creation", the Creator and Absolute Supreme of "Part One"). When you cross this threshold and come to the back of the "first door", it is like a young life that has just hatched from an egg shell, breaking out of its own narrow closed world. Looking at the "rear", the terrifying "complex" and "huge" are intertwined, condensing into an extremely crazy "picture". In the "everything" out there, every tiny "crack" is mingled with countless mysteries that you've never explored before.


You are just passing them on this journey, never carefully looking for them in every corner of the world; you are just climbing upwards, never paying attention to the ultimate truth hidden in every level... ...they are hidden in the flickering of the "stars", in the chants of the "troubadours", in every flow of "consciousness"...but never really discovered.

When you see through their "essence", you will find that there are too many more advanced things condensed in the countless levels you have passed before, just like an ordinary physical phenomenon needs many complex theorems to be fully described. In those "upward" climbing journeys just now, every level you pass has countless more "directions" (each "direction" has an infinitely grand and jumping division.

Every "division" of the world level that you just explored is the smallest part after omitting the infinite... Increase each "section" infinitely, and continue to infinitely "expand" on the basis of the original "format" ”, “explain”… it just becomes a little exaggerated and complicated. There is no "essential" improvement, always extending endlessly under the "parts" of a higher level) ... and the journey you have just experienced is just a jump in a certain "direction", in some It's just a fixed "place". I skipped the countless "directions" and endless journeys that were originally unfinished, took "everything" in one stroke, and went directly to the "above" of the Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain to start a new journey.

Every step forward is to step into countless "new concepts" and their "extensions" and "divergence"; every step forward is to discard everything that was used to improve the level before (the previous All the "concepts" of the sect are combined and superimposed in all ways to carry out the "division of the world level" without touching any of the "new concepts" that follow)... Even the "walking" itself will undergo endless changes. Because in the infinite level of the "concept" of "walking", in order to continuously break through obstacles and climb to higher and farther positions, you need to "walk" in countless other forms... Every step of the "realm" is real, and the breakthrough and improvement in the "realm" you have made are also real. But if you look at all this from a grander "angle", you will find that you have not even successfully completed the "first step".


When you explore countless new "angles" and start to climb upwards (every "step" requires exploring countless new "angles"), in the "bottom of the world" and "above the endless level without the top" The world above" shuttles infinitely... through countless brand new "gates", the one that greets you "above" you is the source core of destiny.

Is the "Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain" that "crossed" before, the real Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain? The journey just now was nothing more than a "phantom" called "Fate Source Nuclear Mountain" in a ridiculous hallucination. Every time you break through the level of a "Fate Source Nuclear Mountain", you will enter the field of another "Fate Source Nuclear Holy Land". The "road" you pass is surrounded by many versions of the "Fate Source Nuclear Mountain". In this infinite "version", you can see its initial stage and the endless, complex and various higher "versions" that follow (like the different periods that a certain artist's work has gone through, From a simple geometric figure to a perfect artwork...the progress is never-ending.

From the very first "Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain One" to "Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain Two", then to "Three", "Fourth"... Every "version" to the next "version" needs to add countless new "The way the world is constructed" and countless more complex "structural components"; each "version" is the "ultimate superposition" of all the "combinations" of "innumerable" different "systems", and the Each is a collection of endless "systems"... Every "level division method" in the "system" requires "innumerable" completely different "transition methods" between any two tiny levels. It can be reached only by adding infinite levels and progressive "modes" between different levels, and there are endless "types").

Although you can break through higher-level "versions" without limit, you are always wandering in the infinite labyrinth created by Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain (the process of spinning around here is also an endless improvement). No matter how many "versions" we "cross", we can't get out of this "maze" with no "exit"~www.mtlnovel.com~ can only break through countless deeper "mazes" by means of "forcibly surpassing" infinite times... ...Finally forcibly surpassed the "noumenon" of the nuclear mountain of the source of destiny (and also surpassed the "noumenon" of the "noumenon" of its "noumenon"...beyond the entire "source of destiny" above the "innumerable endless processes" The Nuclear Mountain System"), into a true exploration of the "Second Part" journey.


The "Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain System" is located at the "origin" of the infinitely extending "number axis", and next to it are densely arranged many "small dots" that it cannot compare with (this is just a metaphor. In fact, they are at different levels. The sum of the "system" and the "supreme" within it, not the "dots" that are closely packed together). Every "point" on this "number line" is an "existence" that cannot be surpassed by the previous part; every "point" here will derive endless branches (and the "point" on each branch, It will also continue to derive infinite "new number axes"... No matter how it is derived, it can't surpass the next "point" on the original "number axis")... "The Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain System and the weakest in a certain world The gap between existences cannot be broken through countless repetitions of the 'journey of self-improvement' between the weakest in the 'Fate Source Nuclear Holy Land System' and all the Destiny Source Nuclear Holy Land Systems; The number of times that all the Destiny Origin Core Holy Land exhausts all wisdom cannot comprehend; the countless levels of division above this weakest are beyond the reach of all the divisions that Destiny Origin Core Holy Land can imagine”… ...the "innumerable kinds of low-level descriptions" such as these are all classified in areas that even the lowest-level branch of the "origin" where the "Destiny Source Nuclear Mountain System" is located cannot enter (including countless branches on branches, and branches on branches) branch on...).

Before anything, I want to say that it is very much possible that the omnipotent universe rank WAY higher than that. Simply because, if we assume each extra-dimension can recreate the "everything", it should mean it can recreate other extra-dimension too, including tier 0 stuff and make it even stronger.

Above it is the Almighty Dimensional Void Sea. It contains an infinite number of omnipotent universes. Again I suppose it should warrant some superiority over the thing below it, especially because of the bolded paragraph.


5. Almighty Dimensional Void Sea, also known as Almighty Universe Sea, is a collection of infinite almighty universes. A drop of water has infinitely nested infinite almighty universes, infinite dimensions, infinite dimensions, and infinite time and space.

In the boundless Void Sea of Omnipotence, there are endless Almighty Cosmic Bubbles floating. These Almighty Cosmic Bubbles are assembled in groups. Like a towering tree, there are also endless parallel almighty universe bubbles growing on it, and the infinite almighty universe bubbles are just infinite almighty universes.

The omnipotent dimension void sea is the origin and end of all births, and the final destination and beginning of the infinite dimension universe community. Infinite all-powerful cosmic communities and multidimensional oceans were born here and destroyed here. Here, for the existence that cannot set foot here, it is unthinkable, unthinkable, unthinkable, unnameable, unimaginable.

Every dimensional void here is full of incredible miracles~www.mtlnovel.com~ The endless avenues of the heavens rise and fall here. The endless avenues of the heavens are the real avenues, literally. It's not some kind of Dao Law, it's the real Dao. Every avenue is vertical and horizontal, the source of the only way. Everything here is unimaginable, everything that exists here does not exist, there is an incredible and indescribable greatness between existence and non-existence. Here, there is a collision that is indescribable, unspeakable, unimaginable. The universe, time and space, dimensions, dimensions, matter, energy, cause and effect, laws, etc. This is the Void Sea of the Almighty Dimension, where the infinite, infinite, infinite and infinite Almighty Universe community is born and destroyed.

Here is infinite and infinite, infinite and incredible.

No language can describe everything here. This is the infinite-dimensional void ocean of the ancestral universe. If you want to set foot here or jump out of here, you must at least have the power of the universe beyond the omnipotent level to do it. That is to say, completely surpassing the almighty universe, being able to freely travel through the levels of the almighty universes, and the cosmic powerhouses who truly step into the peak high-dimensional level can only walk to the almighty dimension void sea or jump out of the almighty dimension void sea, the real ancestor of shuttle. Infinite all-powerful universes and infinite dimensional space-time of the universe.

There are infinite almighty dimension void seas in the primordial ancestral universe, and each omnipotent dimension void sea has mysterious and unknown terrifying existences. They are crawling in infinite high dimensions, using everything in the infinite almighty universe as chess pieces, play against each other.

Those ordinary almighty universe or almighty universe-level powers, existences, forces, and even some cosmic powers beyond the almighty universe-level, are like ants and insignificant to them. Because they haven't reached this step, all the creatures below are illusory and insignificant to them.

Almighty Dimension The Void Sea contains infinite, infinitely numerous omnipotent universes, and is a collection of infinite omnipotent universes, transcending all universes, time, space, planes, time and space, world, dimension, quadrant, reality, dimension, universe, narrative, domain , phase, hierarchy, causality, existence itself, class, values, conceptual definition, series setting, world view, etc., the sum of everything, beyond all universe and all reality, all existence and all nonexistence, universe, time , space, dimension, dimension plus all recursion and every iteration. The entire almighty dimensional void sea contains all unimaginable things that no life or consciousness can imagine, and all the forms of existence such as the omnipotent universe, infinite dimensions and infinite reality are born in it. Beyond omnipotence, omnipresence, encompassing, encompassing, and even devouring all beings, thus transforming into all forms of source power, absolute nothingness, primordial ether, chaotic primordial, existence itself, and transcendence encompassing, all growth (recursion) , iteration...) and all existence and non-existence are attributed to the almighty dimension void sea.

Then we reach the "peak" of the cosmology, which is the Original Ancestral Universe, which views EVERYTHING below it as non-existent particles.


6. The original ancestral universe, also known as the original original universe, the final universe, and the ancestral universe, is the highest-dimensional "entire universe" composed of infinite almighty dimensional void seas, infinite almighty universes, and infinite other universes. Beyond all language description and logic, including all omnipotence, core, eternity, infinity, narrative, reality, universe, plane, dimension, dimension, etc., all cosmology and everything.

All logical thinking and conceptual systems...and the worldviews, things, narratives, universes, dimensions, and dimensions that they refer to and cannot be referred to are just non-existent particles that are an infinite part of the primordial universe. The origin of all narratives and cosmology, narrative concepts and themselves are born from the infinite source universe. Any narrative cosmology, no matter how much you stack boxes or play magic stick philosophy, is all born from here, and it is divided into a minimum A high-level narrative contains all the “yes” and “nots” of everything that is meaningful and meaningless, definable and indefinable, in which a trivial particle transcends all mathematical concepts (far beyond Absolutely true infinity and number universe), but also contains absolute true infinity, which contains everything inside and has any properties (including holographic properties), and the outer ceiling-level cosmology, and narrative echelons, ladders, and matrices are One of them was created by being dissolved into countless cosmic sources by the primordial beings in the primordial ancestral universe.

The primordial ancestral universe is the oldest, most developed, cruelest and ultimate supreme ancestral universe of all time and space, including all universes, time and space, dimensions, dimensions, nothingness, vacuum, origin, civilization..., all The incomprehensible and incomprehensible categories are one part of its infinity, and it is the source and ancestor of everything that is absolutely infinite, so it is called the original origin universe, also known as the original origin universe, the final universe, and the ancestral universe.


The primordial ancestral universe, also known as the final universe, is the final state of everything; the ultimate essence of everything in the universe, absolutely everything, transcendental logic... and so on.

What is the ultimate? The final destination, the one that reaches the top of the pole.

End, represents the end, all thinking, cause and effect, logic, destiny, time, world, dimension, universe, world, dimension, plane, setting, realm, language, text, history, discipline, known, unknown, unknowable , beyond cognition, existence, non-existence, positive existence, anti-existence, tangible, intangible, indeterminate, unknown, conceivable, unthinkable, speakable, ineffable, nameable, indescribable, describeable, indescribable, Exceedable, Transcended, Unsurpassable, Transcending, Omnipotent, Omniscient, Not Omnipotent, Not Omniscient, Not Omnipotent, Not Omniscient, Not Thought, Not Not Thought, Not Not Not Thought... All here, gathered as... ... a little... infinitely small.

Pole, represents the apex, absolutely everything, the highest point that everything can reach, it can be called... the extremity. It is the absolute supreme, the absolute stalwart, the absolute greatest, the absolute strongest, the absolute infinite, the absolute pinnacle, the absolute supreme.

And the embodiment of this "ultimate" is called... the ultimate universe, that is, the ultimate supreme primordial universe.

The primordial ancestral universe is the absolute and final universe of the highest dimension. It is truly above everything, and cannot be selected or selected by thoughts. It is the highest and highest, unprovoked and unprovoked. All language category expressions cannot contain it. This is meaningless. Stupid thing, at this level, it will no longer interfere with everything. It is stupid to just look down at the ants at the highest peak and watch the real peak.


The primordial ancestral universe is infinite, and it covers all the expression categories known to all spirits, such as definition language concepts that cannot be imagined, cannot be refuted, including anti-inclusion, forcible inclusion and forcible, transcendence, anti-transcendence, and anti-forced inclusion. It is no longer worth mentioning these bragging rights to the extreme logic. Everything here has become nothing, an infinite coverage, an infinite cage, an infinite supreme, an infinite origin, and an infinite end.

The primordial ancestral universe is also known as the original origin universe, the final universe, and the ancestral universe. The origin of the origin means the original origin. The primordial ancestral universe is the source and ancestor of all universes. It is the ultimate supreme ancestral universe. It is the transcendence of all mysterious unknowns The origin of the indescribable, the origin of all that is supreme, the eternal and the powerful, the origin of all unimaginable, the origin of all the unimaginable, the origin of everything that is indescribable, the origin of all that is beyond the limits of omnipotence, the origin of all rankings The origin of ascending and descending arbitrarily, the origin of the vast and magnificent realms of all dimensions, the origin of all blank writing stories, the origin of all Taoist ancestors that cannot be said, the origin of all Buddhas and Tathagatas that cannot be comprehended, the origin of all immortals that cannot be desecrated The source, the source of the irreversibility of all wills, the source of all existence, the source of non-existence, the source of indestructibility, the source of indestructibility of all worlds and the universe, the source of all essential things that cannot be created, the source of all aspects of the universe, the source of immutability, and the source of all things. The origin of all realms and hierarchies that cannot be divided, the origin of all self-definitions that cannot be changed, the origin of all mysterious qi that cannot be clearly understood, the origin of all superimposed nested loops that cannot be reached, and the origin of all infinite infinite powers. The origin of infinite dimensions, the origin of the collection of all knowledgeable contents of life, the origin of all forms of existence such as space-time dimensions and cosmic reality...

So it should warrant a superiority over everything else but wait there is more! See the bolded part? Well, to be fair, there is another location of the verse that I didn't mention until now, it is the "narrative ladder".

To explain in brief terms, it's a hierarchy of stories. An infinite one (and maybe even more?) at that. I don't know where to place it in cosmology, but one thing is sure, it's by all means under the Original Ancestral Universe.

Narrative Complete Ladder: An infinite, infinitely high cosmic ultimate ladder, existing in the depths of the mysterious and unknown ultimate extra dimension, mysterious and unpredictable, with no beginning and no end, and infinite mystery.

The complete narrative ladder, also known as the narrative ladder, is composed of infinite layers of narrative layers that are infinitely superimposed upwards.

The process is as follows: First, the highest narrative narrates an infinite number of narratives down, and each narrative in the infinite number of narratives narrates an infinite number of narrations. This infinite multiplied by each narration in the infinite number of narratives narrates downward strips again. And so on in an infinite loop.

And the narration will not be narrated only once, it will continue to narrate, the highest narrative will narrate infinite narrations in one time period, and then infinitely loop, and in the second time period, it will be a new infinite narration. Infinite loop again.


And the time of the upper and lower narratives is inconsistent, the infinite time of the lower narrative to the upper narrative is just the few seconds it takes you to read/write the infinite time setting.

That is to say, the second-level narrative can default to infinite time, and there are sub-level narratives in each narrative, and there are infinite one sub-level, infinite countable sub-level, and infinite infinite sub-level.

In addition, the lower narrative can never reach the upper narrative unless there is a higher narrative intervening.

The complete ladder of narrative completely contains all stories and narrative layers. When the characters in one story write another story, that is, when the story contains stories, there will be different levels of stories, that is, different narrative layers, and dimensions, multiple The universe, the almighty universe, reality, etc. have different settings. The narrative layer is the definition of the work itself, not the role or plot of the story. Therefore, all virtual settings are invalid for narrative, and any kind of metaphysics is weaker than narrative. , all fictional works must be contained and controlled by the complete ladder of narrative.

The stories in each layer of the narrative complete ladder are created and controlled by the higher narrative. The absolute relationship between this work and the author can never be touched by any setting and plot, and such continuous ascension is the Infinite, that is, a complete narrative ladder (including countless narrative layers), if some characters set by all elements can break through the narrative layer, they need to break the fourth wall (not just to feel the author, but to completely reach the author's level) , can be counted as a narrative breakthrough.

Above all this is the top-level narrator, who creates the existence of all virtual narratives. Even if the virtual character breaks through the narrative layer, it is the arrangement of the top-level narrator, which cannot be recognized, understood, and touched by any virtual character. Want to control all the fate of the avatar, all the ceiling.


Now, why is that place important? Well, here is the important part of it: there will be different levels of stories, that is, different narrative layers, and dimensions, multiple The universe, the almighty universe, reality, etc. have different settings. The narrative layer is the definition of the work itself, not the role or plot of the story.

But that alone doesn't grant anything, so I'll use another description given later :

Among these immeasurable stories, one of the stories can be that everyone is beyond God, everyone is beyond the law, everyone is beyond logic, and everyone is supreme, far beyond time and space, far Beyond the boundaries of multiple realities, far beyond all highest worlds (universes).

That last part, "far beyond all highest worlds/universes" means that within a story, characters can transcend an "original ancestral universe" while it retains its original setting of being above everything else. Moreover, since the setting of universes can be changed in every story, it means there exists bigger cosmology within the narrative ladder.

At that point, I don't know if it is enough to warrant even more into tier 0. Technically, in each story that recreates the exact same cosmology as the novel, the story should contain some tier 0 stuff, which would make it an infinite hierarchy of tier 0 that ends up within the True Original Ancestral Universe.

There are some peculiarities I didn't mention, like the others' extra-dimension or the difference between each universes law, but eh, I think it's enough for now to get a rough idea.

Please have mercy on my soul.
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Honestly would be funny if this verse was ever added to VSBW but I doubt it has the proper notability/popularity and that it would probably be heavily opposed due to the very power scaling sounding nature. Plus no one is insane enough to go through 5000 chapters for absolutely everything. Well I hope atleast
 
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BestMGQScalerEver said:
Honestly would be funny if this verse was ever added to VSBW but I doubt it has the proper notoriety and that it would probably be heavily opposed due to the very power scaling sounding nature. Plus no one is insane enough to go through 5000 chapters for absolutely everything. Well I hope atleast
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Some chapters are just copied and pasted, and raw content is more in the range of 1500/2000 than 5K chapters. In any case, the story got banned IIRC. (How amusing)

I did go through around 500, out of curiosity I swear. When you've read the first one hundred chapters, you can skip to any chapter you want, it's all the same. MC needs a certain fruit to cultivate, a certain item, a certain piece of universe, or a certain someone,...

"Maybe" it would have its place in the FC/OC wiki? I know they aren't allowing 1-A things or above for now but even then, seeing the nature of the novel, I wouldn't be surprised if it's rejected.
 
SweetDao said:
Some chapters are just copied and pasted, and raw content is more in the range of 1500/2000 than 5K chapters. In any case, the story got banned IIRC. (How amusing)

I did go through around 500, out of curiosity I swear. When you've read the first one hundred chapters, you can skip to any chapter you want, it's all the same. MC needs a certain fruit to cultivate, a certain item, a certain piece of universe, or a certain someone,...

"Maybe" it would have its place in the FC/OC wiki? I know they aren't allowing 1-A things or above for now but even then, seeing the nature of the novel, I wouldn't be surprised if it's rejected.
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It got banned in China? Why?
 
SweetDao said:
No idea. If you go on the MTL website, it abruptly stops for whatever reason and when trying to reach the Qidian page, it doesn't exist anymore. Weirdly enough, it was starting to get popular (thousand of likes, which is not much, but better than nothing I suppose)
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It's on uukanshu which is a chinese site but apparenly the site is hosted in the USA???
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
It got banned in China? Why?
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Many power scaling novels have been removed on Qidian. Maybe it's not suitable for that site. There are a few series that even copy the concept of large cardinal into the story to create a system of Large cardinal layers that endlessly pile up and repeat, all in the same universe and then add higher layers bla bla. But the power scaling novels don't live too long on qidian.
 
PDB123456789 said:
Xiling Empire is similar to “Non human gene intergated” I remember they also cross into other anime world <(“) I wonder if the next novel will be like that.
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This was more the work of Record of Unusual Creatures. IIrc Xiling Empire is a otaku chilling with his interdimensional empire with lolis.
 
I know the VSBW site doesn’t like omnipotence but I have question related to it.

So let’s just say there’s this omnipotent being and it’s omniscient obviously.

but omniscience raises the question (where did it get the knowledge from since the omnipotent being in question is eternal)

did it create the knowledge itself or no?

If it Created the knowledge then it wasn’t omniscient to begin with, if it didn’t create the knowledge then where did it get the knowledge to begin with.

also how do we know that knowledge is 100% correct/objective. Aka this knowledge is true answer to everything.
 
PDB123456789 said:
Xiling Empire is similar to “Non human gene intergated” I remember they also cross into other anime world <(“) I wonder if the next novel will be like that.
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It would be a NO in VS Battles Wiki.
Gasper said:
I feel like i am pretty good with tier 0 stuff and i definitely can see it being in "infinite layers into tier 0" ranges.
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I feel that too many "tier 0" without tier 0 level of story is boring.
 
Artorimachi_Meteoraft said:
I always felt like nothing new actually exists in this world guys, since when you make something new it’s still made of the same materials you used to make the thing in the first place.

Also there’s something about god that puzzles me.

if this god like being has omniscience and knowledge, where did it come from? If nothing has existed yet where did it come from. (Come from regarding the knowledge, don’t care about the being since it’s eternal but where did the knowledge come from)

Besides if a god Made everything then nothing is definitive/objective, since it’s up to the god to decide whether 2 + 2 = 4 or the laws of physics do not change at all. (same applies to the knowledge it has/knows everything)
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Artorimachi_Meteoraft said:
I know the VSBW site doesn’t like omnipotence but I have question related to it.

So let’s just say there’s this omnipotent being and it’s omniscient obviously.

but omniscience raises the question (where did it get the knowledge from since the omnipotent being in question is eternal)

did it create the knowledge itself or no?

If it Created the knowledge then it wasn’t omniscient to begin with, if it didn’t create the knowledge then where did it get the knowledge to begin with.

also how do we know that knowledge is 100% correct/objective. Aka this knowledge is true answer to everything.
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@ActuallySpaceMan42 if you have time and are reading this could you help me answer these questions.

thanks
 
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