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Charizard vs. Greymon
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Phantasys said:
Did he beat Mega-Mewtwo? Cause I don't see how base Mewtwo is all that more impressive than beating Chaos-Etemon.
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Seeing as how Mewtwo and regular Etemon are classified under the same tier I guess it can be said that Mega Mewtwo and ChaosEtemon are also the same tier. Anyway flight means nothing because Greymon fought a digimon with mach speed of 65, Charizard top speed is hypersonic speed which is around mach 20-25. So greymon's reflex and combat experience of fighting faster digimon would come to play.Phantasys said:
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VSJudge said:
First of all a tier is incredibly wide, with At least in front of Mewtwo's 7-A it means Mewtwo is likely dozens of times stronger. Also it's complete bullshit to assume Chaos Etemon gets as much of a powerboost as Mega-formed Mewtwo. If anything then the incomplete fusion with those machines weakened him, as he was clearly in pain and all messed up. Greymon also only beat him by pushing him into the dimensional gate so it wasn't Greymon's own DC that beat him but rather PIS involving an environmental hazard. Charizard still gets an advantage in speed over Greymon and has fought the likes of Entei (mach 170+), so Greymon's no challenge.
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Wasn't that added in the dub? I watched a subbed version and Mewtwo just said the storm was to filter out weaken trainers.Phantasys said:
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Phantasys said:
Let me look at your information umm *puts glasses on* Pokemon dub called a rice ball a donut yup very legit and canon
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Wasn't that added in the dub? I watched a subbed version and Mewtwo just said the storm was to filter out weaken trainers.
Subs are fanmade, dubs are official canon.
Let me look at your information umm *puts glasses on* Pokemon dub called a rice ball a donut yup very legit and canon
Okay, you wanna take it up with funimation or whatever? Be my guest, doesn't change the fact that the dub's the official canon.
The dub can still be different from the original Japanese version. Like how in the DBZ dubs Goku said that instant transmission is traveling as a ball of light when really it's instantaneous teleportation.
Subs are fanmade, dubs are official canon.
Let me look at your information umm *puts glasses on* Pokemon dub called a rice ball a donut yup very legit and canon
Okay, you wanna take it up with funimation or whatever? Be my guest, doesn't change the fact that the dub's the official canon.
The dub can still be different from the original Japanese version. Like how in the DBZ dubs Goku said that instant transmission is traveling as a ball of light when really it's instantaneous teleportation.
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Subs are fanmade, dubs are official canon.Untedbear said:
Let me look at your information umm *puts glasses on* Pokemon dub called a rice ball a donut yup very legit and canoOkay, you wanna take it up with funimation or whatever? Be my guest, doesn't change the fact that the dub's the official canon.
The dub can still be different from the original Japanese version. Like how in the DBZ dubs Goku said that instant transmission is traveling as a ball of light when really it's instantaneous teleportation.
The subs are still fanmade, it'd be like taking a fanfiction into account.
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Wasn't that added in the dub? I watched a subbed version and Mewtwo just said the storm was to filter out weaken trainers.
Subs are fanmade, dubs are official canon.
Let me look at your information umm *puts glasses on* Pokemon dub called a rice ball a donut yup very legit and canoOkay, you wanna take it up with funimation or whatever? Be my guest, doesn't change the fact that the dub's the official canon.
The dub can still be different from the original Japanese version. Like how in the DBZ dubs Goku said that instant transmission is traveling as a ball of light when really it's instantaneous teleportation.
The subs are still fanmade, it'd be like taking a fanfiction into account.
The subs are merely a translation of the Japanese version. The dubs rewrite entire sentences in English to fit the lip sync of the animation.
Subs are fanmade, dubs are official canon.
Let me look at your information umm *puts glasses on* Pokemon dub called a rice ball a donut yup very legit and canoOkay, you wanna take it up with funimation or whatever? Be my guest, doesn't change the fact that the dub's the official canon.
The dub can still be different from the original Japanese version. Like how in the DBZ dubs Goku said that instant transmission is traveling as a ball of light when really it's instantaneous teleportation.
The subs are still fanmade, it'd be like taking a fanfiction into account.
The subs are merely a translation of the Japanese version. The dubs rewrite entire sentences in English to fit the lip sync of the animation.
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Subs are fanmade, dubs are official canon.Untedbear said:
Let me look at your information umm *puts glasses on* Pokemon dub called a rice ball a donut yup very legit and canoOkay, you wanna take it up with funimation or whatever? Be my guest, doesn't change the fact that the dub's the official canon.
The dub can still be different from the original Japanese version. Like how in the DBZ dubs Goku said that instant transmission is traveling as a ball of light when really it's instantaneous teleportation.
The subs are still fanmade, it'd be like taking a fanfiction into account.
The subs are merely a translation of the Japanese version. The dubs rewrite entire sentences in English to fit the lip sync of the animation.
Official source>Fanfiction
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Wasn't that added in the dub? I watched a subbed version and Mewtwo just said the storm was to filter out weaken trainers.
Subs are fanmade, dubs are official canon.
Let me look at your information umm *puts glasses on* Pokemon dub called a rice ball a donut yup very legit and canoOkay, you wanna take it up with funimation or whatever? Be my guest, doesn't change the fact that the dub's the official canon.
The dub can still be different from the original Japanese version. Like how in the DBZ dubs Goku said that instant transmission is traveling as a ball of light when really it's instantaneous teleportation.
The subs are still fanmade, it'd be like taking a fanfiction into account.
The subs are merely a translation of the Japanese version. The dubs rewrite entire sentences in English to fit the lip sync of the animation.
Official source>Fanfiction
Original Japanese dialogue >>>>> unreliable mistranslated dub
Subs are fanmade, dubs are official canon.
Let me look at your information umm *puts glasses on* Pokemon dub called a rice ball a donut yup very legit and canoOkay, you wanna take it up with funimation or whatever? Be my guest, doesn't change the fact that the dub's the official canon.
The dub can still be different from the original Japanese version. Like how in the DBZ dubs Goku said that instant transmission is traveling as a ball of light when really it's instantaneous teleportation.
The subs are still fanmade, it'd be like taking a fanfiction into account.
The subs are merely a translation of the Japanese version. The dubs rewrite entire sentences in English to fit the lip sync of the animation.
Official source>Fanfiction
Original Japanese dialogue >>>>> unreliable mistranslated dub
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Subs are fanmade, dubs are official canon.Untedbear said:
Let me look at your information umm *puts glasses on* Pokemon dub called a rice ball a donut yup very legit and canoOkay, you wanna take it up with funimation or whatever? Be my guest, doesn't change the fact that the dub's the official canon.
The dub can still be different from the original Japanese version. Like how in the DBZ dubs Goku said that instant transmission is traveling as a ball of light when really it's instantaneous teleportation.
The subs are still fanmade, it'd be like taking a fanfiction into account.The subs are merely a translation of the Japanese version. The dubs rewrite entire sentences in English to fit the lip sync of the animation. Official source>Fanfiction
Original Japanese dialogue >>>>> unreliable mistranslated dub
Great, go call funimation and get canon changed then. Until then don't take fanfiction into account.
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Look Bear, the changes in the dub are targeted at a Wester audience. While it sounds stupid, it makes sense to call what they're eating donuts since the majority of American kids have no idea what onigiri or a rice ball.
But yeah, it's canon.
Even then, Mewtwo's planetary storm feat is still accepted, and if you think it's that much of disrepency (I don't think it is) take it up with the admins I suppose.
But yeah, it's canon.
Even then, Mewtwo's planetary storm feat is still accepted, and if you think it's that much of disrepency (I don't think it is) take it up with the admins I suppose.
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Geez didn't think I would get so many emails in this thread in a single day lol.
Anyway, for me personally I need to rewatch that movie to see what the big fuss is about. But if Bear is right about the Mistranslation (which he probably is because these are translations companies we are talking about) then the feat should be invalid. So many times in different animes has there been mistranslations or add ons by those who dub just to add more drama. Bear's example is a perfect one, instant transmission is instant rather than what the english dub said; which actually boosted the technique when it was rightfully translated/confirmed.
Majority of the time those who research or know the character know that.
Again for me I need to rewatch it to really see what's going on. I wonder what are other people thoughts about that.
Anyway, for me personally I need to rewatch that movie to see what the big fuss is about. But if Bear is right about the Mistranslation (which he probably is because these are translations companies we are talking about) then the feat should be invalid. So many times in different animes has there been mistranslations or add ons by those who dub just to add more drama. Bear's example is a perfect one, instant transmission is instant rather than what the english dub said; which actually boosted the technique when it was rightfully translated/confirmed.
Majority of the time those who research or know the character know that.
Again for me I need to rewatch it to really see what's going on. I wonder what are other people thoughts about that.
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Wait people are calling me bear?
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To be honest this civilzation destroying mewtwo sounds like some nonsenese that is only on the dub seriously if you legitametaley think that everything in the dub is canon then i guess donuts are make so much sense
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Charizard lost... again
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Knew it....
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He's an RPG character. Death Battle has no morals when it comes to RPG characters.
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"Im yet to see a planet busting charizard. 5 days agoViturino"
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I just watched the Death Battle, and damn that was a brutal ending. I can understand Wargreymon killing Charizard like that, since they thought he was an evil digimon and digimon don't really "die", but did he really have to murder Red like that too?
That said, it was a really entertaining fight, surprised they used full 3D models, I was totally expecting a weird looking battle using sprites.
That said, it was a really entertaining fight, surprised they used full 3D models, I was totally expecting a weird looking battle using sprites.
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I hate death battle but the ending was hilarious lmfao. What a cheap win hahahahahahah
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Saw the screwattack battle, the ending was a forgone conclusion...though I did realize one thing. Hilariously enough...if it had been Ash in Red's place then he would've won as Ash could easily murder Tai (this kid picked up a 72kg Larvitar effortlessly, and once threw an entire tree trunk) and Greymon would be helpless without a tamer to let him digievolve.
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I still don't know why they didn't even at least try to make this an even battle. Now I understand if their intent was to showcase a fight between Charizard and Agumon and that's it, but since they included so much information about their respective "trainers"; Red and Yagami Taichi, they should've had Red and his PokeTeam (Pikachu, Espeon, Snorlax, Venusaur, Charizard and Blastoise) up against Taichi's Agumon and his respective Digievolutions. Cause then it would be an even more interesting matchup. With that we could see Red's tactical prowess and Taichi's iconic spirit and bond w/ Agumon would really show up and make a difference in the fight. But yeah, the fight was somewhat hilariously brutal and pretty much a squash match. Still averagely enjoyable all in all.
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