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Charizard vs. Greymon

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With the next death battle coming out, I wanna get a head start. Don't rip me apart for doing this, please...

Round 1. Charizard (no mega) vs. Greymon (no digivolving)

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Metalgreymon render
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Round 2. Mega Charizard X and/or Y vs. Metalgreymon
Round 3. Mega Charizard X

Charizard
From left to right, Mega Charizard Y, Charizard and Mega Charizard X

and/or Y vs. Wargreymon
 
Seeing how DB will probably resort to my round 2, as X was shown in the trailer, that's the round I care about most. And I thought that War couldn't get past moon+ durability?
 
But Victory is overkill. That guy is a match for Arceus. And apparently War is in the DB, so RIP Charizard... again...
 
As of Digimon Adventure Tri (assuming they're using Adventure Greymon), Greymon has gone toe-to-toe with Kuwagamon who (in Tri) was able to easily destroy several large buildings in Tokyo. Off the top of my head, I can't recal Charizard having a feat on par with that, though I may be wrong on that, I never kept up with the Pokemon anime (assuming they're using Ash's Charizard..).

Also people on reddit are saying Charizard will probably win due to flight, I dunno about that. Greymon beat the Kuwagamon and they were flying.
 
Darkanine said:
As of Digimon Adventure Tri (assuming they're using Adventure Greymon), Greymon has gone toe-to-toe with Kuwagamon who (in Tri) was able to easily destroy several large buildings in Tokyo. Off the top of my head, I can't recal Charizard having a feat on par with that, though I may be wrong on that, I never kept up with the Pokemon anime (assuming they're using Ash's Charizard..).
Also people on reddit are saying Charizard will probably win due to flight, I dunno about that. Greymon beat the Kuwagamon and they were flying.
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TBH, I'm REALLY hoping Charizard wins, but it's looking bleak. The screwattack forum users, and one of their voluntary debate team members, say Charizard gets beaten in 3d. I'm hoping his better durability can keep him alive. I just want to have hope on vsbattles.
 
The real cal howard said:
But Victory is overkill. That guy is a match for Arceus. And apparently War is in the DB, so RIP Charizard... again...
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I don't know about that. Greymon in his strongest form (Omnimon/Omegamon depending on what dub) wasn't even able to really hold his own against Armageddemon, whose anywhere from a City Buster or an Island Buster.

That said, this match will be insanely satisfying for me. I love me some Pokemon but hate me some Charizard.
 
The feats from the anime don't always coincide with the official power levels of the Digimon. For exsample, Seraphimon was initially clocked in at building level of all things despite the databook mentioning the fact that it bears a third of Lucemon's power, who is able to casually create small solar systems with ease.
 
Reppuzan said:
The feats from the anime don't always coincide with the official power levels of the Digimon. For exsample, Seraphimon was initially clocked in at building level of all things despite the databook mentioning the fact that it bears a third of Lucemon's power, who is able to casually create small solar systems with ease.
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Fair point. As much as I love Digimon I never really followed the databook. I never knew that Seraphimon was that strong either, I just assumed he was roughly on par with Wargreymon.

Thanks for the info.
 
I have a feeling that Charizard is gonna win this DB, now hear me out.

Whenever DB does a fight including a pokemon, they always base it off game mechanics. (I.E they could say Charizard could tank Greymons nova blasts cause fire types resist fire).

Also if they not gonna include their respective trainer/digi destined this fight could end up being around round 1 (as neither charizard nor greymon would have access to their later forms).

And if the pokemon battle royal DB is gonna be taken into account, then they'll most likely use charizard flight as a big adventage.

So yeah, Using DB-Logic I think Charizard may win the DeathBattle.
 
Omegablaziken said:
I have a feeling that Charizard is gonna win this DB, now hear me out.
Whenever DB does a fight including a pokemon, they always base it off game mechanics. (I.E they could say Charizard could tank Greymons nova blasts cause fire types resist fire).

Also if they not gonna include their respective trainer/digi destined this fight could end up being around round 1 (as neither charizard nor greymon would have access to their later forms).

And if the pokemon battle royal DB is gonna be taken into account, then they'll most likely use charizard flight as a big adventage.

So yeah, Using DB-Logic I think Charizard may win the DeathBattle.
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I hope you're right. The thing is, I don't care if they are wrong, as I could figure it out through this site or the OBD (mostly this site). I just want Charizard to win, I don't mind another Toph vs Gaara. (Though Yang vs. Tifa is another story lol)
 
Now that War has been upgraded to somewhere in the planet level (that thread just HAD to be created when this thread was active), Round 3 is inactive due to stomp. The first two are still debatable.
 
Omegablaziken said:
BlitzStrike said:
Round 1: Probably Greymon
Round 2: Metalgreymon

Round 3: Wargreymon with ease
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Wouldn't Metalgreymon and Wargreymon both be weak to fire cause metal?
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Actually by digimon game mechanics Metalgreymon is a dragon type digimon not metal so they are not weak to fire.
 
BlitzStrike said:
Omegablaziken said:
BlitzStrike said:
Round 1: Probably Greymon
Round 2: Metalgreymon

Round 3: Wargreymon with ease
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Wouldn't Metalgreymon and Wargreymon both be weak to fire cause metal?
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Actually by digimon game mechanics Metalgreymon is a dragon type digimon not metal so they are not weak to fire.
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Metalgreymon is actually described as cyborg type, so it would be weak to fire
 
On what game is he dscribed as a cyborg type? Based on the games I have played he is a dragon type which are Digimon World Dawn/Dusk and Digimon World Ds
 
Round 1: Could go either way depending on what Charizard you are usingm the average Charizard would loose easy while Ash's or especially Red's would pottentially win

Round 2: Mega Charizard X wins

Round 3: Wargreymon wins
 
Round 1: Charizard has a flight advantage.

Round 2: Charizard has vastly surperior durability.

Round 3: WarGreymon lays Charizard out on the curb, and proceeds to stomp its face in.
 
Silverboy300 said:
Greymo
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Elaborate.

Admittedly, it is a stomp in Greymon's favor if he was able to become WarGreymon, but otherwise, I don't see him taking it.

Charizard has access to ranged attacks and flight, which would allow it to win the first round.

MetalGreymon and Charizard-X are fairly even in terms of strength, but I don't think Metal is even capable of touching that Moon level durability, which would either lead to a stalemate or eventually a win for X in the second round.

Charizard isn't the best Pokemon and is quite overrated, but it definitely has this.
 
Talonmask said:
Silverboy300 said:
Greymo
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Elaborate.
Admittedly, it is a stomp in Greymon's favor if he was able to become WarGreymon, but otherwise, I don't see him taking it.

Charizard has access to ranged attacks and flight, which would allow it to win the first round.

MetalGreymon and Charizard-X are fairly even in terms of strength, but I don't think Metal is even capable of touching that Moon level durability, which would either lead to a stalemate or eventually a win for X in the second round.

Charizard isn't the best Pokemon and is quite overrated, but it definitely has this.
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Well, a lot of people say Greymon wins, but your reasoning was perfectly well said ;)
 
FanofRPGs said:
Why is there not a page for normal Greymon? I cannot find his stats.
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I was also curious about that, considering the fact we have both MetalGreymon and WarGreymon, there's not reason why we shouldn't have the starting form.

But wouldn't it make sense if a page was made on Greymon that the others be blended into it, considering they are the same monster?
 
Talonmask said:
FanofRPGs said:
Why is there not a page for normal Greymon? I cannot find his stats.
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I was also curious about that, considering the fact we have both MetalGreymon and WarGreymon, there's not reason why we shouldn't have the starting form.
But wouldn't it make sense if a page was made on Greymon that the others be blended into it, considering they are the same monster?
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Yeah, I plan on doing that for Blue Eyes also
 
Didn't in digimon adventures Angemon blow up an island with his hand of fate when fighting devimon and the kids got scatter across the digital due to the island breaking apart from the blast just wondering l. since greymon should be scaled to it if so but my memory is kinda fuzzy on the blast.
 
Minstry of pain said:
Didn't in digimon adventures Angemon blow up an island with his hand of fate when fighting devimon and the kids got scatter across the digital due to the island breaking apart from the blast just wondering l. since greymon should be scaled to it if so but my memory is kinda fuzzy on the blast.
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Why would it scale to Greymon if it was Angemon and Devimon fighting?
 
Talonmask said:
Minstry of pain said:
Didn't in digimon adventures Angemon blow up an island with his hand of fate when fighting devimon and the kids got scatter across the digital due to the island breaking apart from the blast just wondering l. since greymon should be scaled to it if so but my memory is kinda fuzzy on the blast.
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Why would it scale to Greymon if it was Angemon and Devimon fighting?
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Because their all champion level digimon and both greymon and garugumon where the strongest in the group but like I said my memory on why the island cracked apart is fuzzy
 
Minstry of pain said:
Didn't in digimon adventures Angemon blow up an island with his hand of fate when fighting devimon and the kids got scatter across the digital due to the island breaking apart from the blast just wondering l. since greymon should be scaled to it if so but my memory is kinda fuzzy on the blast.
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I believe you're thinking of Devimon who blew up the Island with the powers of the Black Gears.
 
Talonmask said:
Silverboy300 said:
Greymo
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Elaborate.
Admittedly, it is a stomp in Greymon's favor if he was able to become WarGreymon, but otherwise, I don't see him taking it.

Charizard has access to ranged attacks and flight, which would allow it to win the first round.

MetalGreymon and Charizard-X are fairly even in terms of strength, but I don't think Metal is even capable of touching that Moon level durability, which would either lead to a stalemate or eventually a win for X in the second round.

Charizard isn't the best Pokemon and is quite overrated, but it definitely has this.
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I don't see Charizard having access to flight as a huge problem for Greymon due to the fact the Greymon fought a digimon who had a mach speed of 65. Charizard can only go about mach 6 I believe. Question however can I get a scan or something of showing Charizard-X with moon level durability?
 
Just wondering, how does one determine durability? Because I recall Greymon getting hit by a Planetbuster (Alphamon) and survivng.
 
There's a whole consistency thing. Unless he has shown to be capable of fighting on that level consistently he is not considered for that kind of udrability.

Then again, I feel that Digimon is still being downplayed too heavily, but I need to find evidence to prove it.
 
Reppuzan said:
There's a whole consistency thing. Unless he has shown to be capable of fighting on that level consistently he is not considered for that kind of udrability.
Then again, I feel that Digimon is still being downplayed too heavily, but I need to find evidence to prove it.
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Thanks for the info!
 
VSJudge said:
Talonmask said:
Silverboy300 said:
Greymo
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Elaborate.
Admittedly, it is a stomp in Greymon's favor if he was able to become WarGreymon, but otherwise, I don't see him taking it.

Charizard has access to ranged attacks and flight, which would allow it to win the first round.

MetalGreymon and Charizard-X are fairly even in terms of strength, but I don't think Metal is even capable of touching that Moon level durability, which would either lead to a stalemate or eventually a win for X in the second round.

Charizard isn't the best Pokemon and is quite overrated, but it definitely has this.
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I don't see Charizard having access to flight as a huge problem for Greymon due to the fact the Greymon fought a digimon who had a mach speed of 65. Charizard can only go about mach 6 I believe. Question however can I get a scan or something of showing Charizard-X with moon level durability?
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I believe the durability placement was because of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Txa28VtSUU
 
I might have to research more about that episode since I am lost on how exactly that is a moon durability, but I did hear about it from others.

However this is were the debate takes a turn in my opinion, are we using Red's Charizard? If so then that feat means nothing because each pokemon is trained and raised differently which makes sense with how some pokemon of the pre-evolved stated can beat their evolution at times in manga and anime. Meh I gotta start rewatching both shows now haha.
 
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