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Actually I'm using The Pokémon Anime Charizard. Who fought against Blastoise, Articuno, and Blaziken.
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Charizard Durability Buff
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The feat was from a Pokemon Adventures Charizard....Pokémon Trainer Jacob said:
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Oh really. Let me grab the link where Ash's Charizard fights Articuno (not that it's the first link in the chat way up there).
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Ash's Charizard vs Articuno https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv8EAZRqYsM Ash's Charizard vs Blastoise https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lUVDsU1qi1Y Ash's Charizard vs Blaziken https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nCLfJFvZofc
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According to Charizard's Page, all Final Evolution Starters are Large Island Level. So Fighting Blaziken and Blastoise and taking hits from them is Large Island Level. Fighting and Tanking hits from Articuno isn't as impressive because that's a Large Mountain Level feat. Base Charizard has at least Large Mountain Level Durability, and at most Large Island Level Durability, as proven by these fights, and these are all the same Charizard.
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The probelm is that Pokemon Adventures Charizard and starters (Pokemon that actually follows a logic)=/= Anime starters (which gets pretty crazy scaling wise), as far as I can see, thats the only reason why final evolution starters are considered 6-C. (they shouldn't even be high 6-C).
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arent pokemon files in a way composite? also I agree with PTJ as charizard takes hits from other starters so his durability should scale from this..
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Check again (Mewtwo for example)Dragonmasterxyz said:
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umm this is a composite mewtwo..technically...
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So is Charizard getting his Durability Buff? Because we all know that all of Charizard's feats in the Anime did happen. I say we give him the buff.
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Where is my comment?
I said "Fire > Ice" because Ice is nearly to/basically useless against fire type
Is like we fight Zapdos vs A Rock/Ground Type
I said "Fire > Ice" because Ice is nearly to/basically useless against fire type
Is like we fight Zapdos vs A Rock/Ground Type
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Actually you're kinda right, however, then that means they're have to be another key for PKMN Adv Charizard, and wouldn't be able to still scale to anime charizardDragonmasterxyz said:
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No. They're entirely composite only excluding the Mystery Dungeon Series which, really, doesn't fit anywhere.
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It's not that simple. Same media, same series, same storyline.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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This. It should logically be removed until a calc group member does it over.SomebodyData said:
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I don't understand? How can you have a composite and not add MD, even if it doesn't "fit anywhere" it really defeats the purpose of a composite.TheMightyRegulator said:
Just saying this now, but this also scales to Pichu and Pikachu. If it would be accepted (there blast didn't cause the explosion, kyroge's defeat did) + calc stacking
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Okay. Fixed.KaenDragneel123 said:
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thanks.TheMightyRegulator said:
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@SomebodyData IIRC For two reasons:
1. The characters are completely different including those that are man-made pokemon yet still exist…in a world where humans don't exist?
2: Absurd Power levels even more so than usual where every starter Pokemon is low 2-C for defeating the Creation Trio. Avoiding the series altogether ensures it doesn't dilute the system.
1. The characters are completely different including those that are man-made pokemon yet still exist…in a world where humans don't exist?
2: Absurd Power levels even more so than usual where every starter Pokemon is low 2-C for defeating the Creation Trio. Avoiding the series altogether ensures it doesn't dilute the system.
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No problem.
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Ok, but the Durability Buff? Yes or No? I provided my evidence that he should have it via The Articuno, Blaziken, and Blastoise fights that took place in the Anime (The same Charizard). I say we buff that durability, he's at most Large Island Level Durability at best via Blastoise and Blaziken fights, and at least Large Mountain Level via the Articuno Fight. This is all Base Form Charizard.
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Check Charizard ProfilePokémon Trainer Jacob said:
That only scales to Mega Evolution
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Actually no. Pkmn Adventures manga didn't even have mega evolution at the time, whoever wrote it must have had no understanding of the calc, which makes me wonder if it even was accepted.KaenDragneel123 said:
That said, its calc stacking so even then we can't use it.
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Indeed. Please come up with another logia. I'd also like admin approval to remove the calc in question. @PTJ it's not the same charizard if they're in different media (that logia is only used with this particular God tier of the verse). Scaling to Articuno has been discredited several times and even the calc cannot be used.
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Yes, I doubt any staff took a look at that calc before it was placed on the profiles, it is using calc stacking, and in a pretty blatant way aswell
Removing it would be best.
Removing it would be best.
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I have done so.
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I think it's the same Charizard, because all 3 of these Durability feats were done by Ash's Charizard. Even if we discredit the Articuno fight. We still have the Blastoise and Blaziken fights. *takes look at wiki page and see that the Island Level Calc was removed*. Well crud that means that the Starter Battles have been discredited. I have no more evidence to stand on. I'll be taking my leave now. Close the thread.
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Pokemon Adventures doesn't have an Ash Ketchum.
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