Chaos King vs Destiny of the Endless

[Overlord775]

both at full power, both are omnipresent

Chaos vs Destiny

CK:0

Destiny:5

inconclusive:0

 

[Overlord775]

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[Overlord775]

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[ZacharyGrossman273]

Destiny via better regen

 

[Jockey-1337]

TCK (True Chaos King not The Crimson King) wins because he brings death and destruction, he is similar to Death Of The Endless who shall kill Destiny sooner or later.

 

[TheSandman31]

TCK (True Chaos King not The Crimson King) wins because he brings death and destruction, he is similar to Death Of The Endless who shall kill Destiny sooner or later.

No dude not just because he brings death and destruction means he is similar to Death of the Endless.Death doesn't just cause death, SHE IS THE CONCEPT DEATH of death of all things.She will even claim Lucifer himself.By your logic, TCK wins against Lucifer because DOTE will also claim Lucifer.They're not similar, what allows Death to kill Destiny is because it is her function and in fact

Destiny>Death

So Destiny wins.He's unkillable to TCK and with a likely AP and hax advantage

 

[Jockey-1337]

> No dude not just because he brings death and destruction means he is similar to Death of the Endless.Death doesn't just cause death, SHE IS THE CONCEPT DEATH of death of all things.


TCK is an avatar of Oblivion which is conceptual force as well.


> She will even claim Lucifer himself.


No, just no.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/34486/1221169-lucifer169.jpg


> They're not similar, what allows Death to kill Destiny is because it is her function and in fact


So... TCK should be able to kill Destiny as well. Also, unlike Death TCK already has multiversal feats. He destroyed 98% of the multiverse.


> So Destiny wins.He's unkillable to TCK and with a likely AP and hax advantage


No. TCK is not TCK

The Marvel one would win thru brute force not plot/fate manipulation. So Destiny's advantages would be simply negated by TCK's brute force.

The Marvel one would win.


I vote for TCK.

 

[Sandman31]

TheSandman31 here Being an avatar of a 1-A isnt an insta win dude.

Also being a destuctive force isnt the equivalent of being the death of all things

Yes, Death will claim him.Lucifer himself said that Death is inevitable.Death doesnt have hold on lucifer during that encounter bwcause its not yet Lucifers time to die

Deaths function is to end everything, even said Death is inevitable.Did you know that the Presence was created because of Dreams? So yeah endless definitely affevts 1-As because of their function

So are you saying DOTE has no multiversal feats? How about the time she claimed silk mans creation? Or the other creations he claimed in the void?

CK doesn't have more brute force that Death who claims all the rising infinite creations in the Void

 

[Sandman31]

Also your logic is flawed that because he is similar to Death means he would beat Destiny.Death would only claim Destiny because it is her function And not just because CK(he's not) is similar means he would be able yo do the same

Destiny>Death

Also what you are suggesting is replacing Death with CK in the story of Creation/The Book of Destiny

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

TCK (True Chaos King not The Crimson King) wins because he brings death and Destruction, he is similar to Death Of The Endless who shall kill Destiny sooner or later.

You realize this applied to the Crimson King too, right?

Look at how that went.

 

[Jockey-1337]

TheSandman31 here
Being an avatar of a 1-A isnt an insta win dude.

Also being a destuctive force isnt the equivalent of being the death of all things

Yes, Death will claim him.Lucifer himself said that Death is inevitable.Death doesnt have hold on lucifer during that encounter bwcause its not yet Lucifers time to die

Deaths function is to end everything, even said Death is inevitable.Did you know that the Presence was created because of Dreams? So yeah endless definitely affevts 1-As because of their function

So are you saying DOTE has no multiversal feats? How about the time she claimed silk mans creation? Or the other creations he claimed in the void?

CK doesn't have more brute force that Death who claims all the rising infinite creations in the Void

It is a weakness of DC's 1-As then because they are not beyond concept of death. Have a look at Cthulhu Mythos Gods. Almost everyone there have type 5 immortality (this type is beyond concept of death itself).

 

[Jockey-1337]

TCK (True Chaos King not The Crimson King) wins because he brings death and Destruction, he is similar to Death Of The Endless who shall kill Destiny sooner or later.

You realize this applied to the Crimson King too, right?
Look at how that went.

Yes but The Crimson King is a fate/plot manipulator and Old Ones/NCP were his instruments of destruction of the Tower whereas The Chaos King was about to destroy it via brute force, not hax.

 

[TheSandman31]

TheSandman31 here
Being an avatar of a 1-A isnt an insta win dude.

Also being a destuctive force isnt the equivalent of being the death of all things

Yes, Death will claim him.Lucifer himself said that Death is inevitable.Death doesnt have hold on lucifer during that encounter bwcause its not yet Lucifers time to die

Deaths function is to end everything, even said Death is inevitable.Did you know that the Presence was created because of Dreams? So yeah endless definitely affevts 1-As because of their function

So are you saying DOTE has no multiversal feats? How about the time she claimed silk mans creation? Or the other creations he claimed in the void?

CK doesn't have more brute force that Death who claims all the rising infinite creations in the Void

It is a weakness of DC's 1-As then because they are not beyond concept of death. Have a look at Cthulhu Mythos Gods. Almost everyone there have type 5 immortality (this type is beyond concept of death itself).

Even 1-As die dude even 1-As from other fiction dies or else we cant have a match between

Or are you saying that 1-A cant die? or that we should add to DC 1-As weakness that "they can die"

Even 1-As can die dude that just means that Death is the death of all

also not everyone in Cthulhu mythos has type 5 immortality, checked their profiles again.Most of them only have type 10

being able to die isnt a "weakness"

 

[Overlord775]

1-A matches are banned

 

[Jockey-1337]

> Even 1-As can die dude that just means that Death is the death of all


It is pure NLF.


> also not everyone in Cthulhu mythos has type 5 immortality, checked their profiles again.Most of them only have type 10


Ok, it was changed yesterday . But anyway Type 10 is better than types 1, 3, 4.


So my immortality is better then yours .

 

[Jockey-1337]

1-A matches are banned

They are not banned but just not recommended

 

[TheSandman31]

TCK (True Chaos King not The Crimson King) wins because he brings death and Destruction, he is similar to Death Of The Endless who shall kill Destiny sooner or later.

You realize this applied to the Crimson King too, right?
Look at how that went.

Yes but The Crimson King is a fate/plot manipulator and Old Ones/NCP were his instruments of destruction of the Tower whereas The Chaos King was about to destroy it via brute force, not hax.

And what? Destiny is above Death and he will only die because of his function.

If you think that Destiny is going to die because the multiverse is gone, think again because Destiny is actually older than Creation itself

Also what you're implying is that CK has more AP advantage

read the profiles, destructiveness doesn't counter hax

where did you get that AP cancels hax?

Yes but The Crimson King is a fate/plot manipulator

yep and that's what keeping him from getting killed by Destiny's fate manipulation because both of their hax can affect 1-As in some fashion

what prevents CK killed by Destiny's extremely potent Fate Manip?

Or are you really saying that Brute force counters a hax that can even affect a 1-A?

Also Death claiming potentially a lot of multiverses (possibly infinite due to the nature of the Void)>>>>> CK destroying only 98 percent of a multiverse

Destiny>Death

At least High 1-B>High 1-B.The At least is there for a reason

I also fail to see how Ck have the brute force adavantage

 

[TheSandman31]

> Even 1-As can die dude that just means that Death is the death of all

It is pure NLF.


> also not everyone in Cthulhu mythos has type 5 immortality, checked their profiles again.Most of them only have type 10


Ok, it was changed yesterday . But anyway Type 10 is better than types 1, 3, 4.


So my immortality is better then yours .

pure NFL? even though it was stated in the story that Death will eventually claim everything even other High 1-Bs, Creation and even 1-As like Lucifer ?

there is no NLF about that dude, that's just something from the story.

And don't bring Cthulhu mythos in here

What you're saying is that DC's 1-As weakness is that they can die

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

"Old Ones were instruments of his destruction of the Tower"

No. The Old Ones were Los's instruments in destroying the Tower. If it weren't for Gan capping his power, it's implied that Dis would have been able to rip apart reality by himself. The entire reason he needed the Old Ones, the Breakers and even his own avatar in order to accomplish his aims was because he was being prevented from doing anything on his own, and needed to be "set free" in order to truly enact his vision.

Also, IIRC the Chaos King was destroying Marvel's reality over time, not in one fell swoop. Even then, he has nowhere near the Crimson King's level of defensive hax saving him in this fight, so brute force is a moot point.

 

[Jockey-1337]

"Old Ones were instruments of his destruction of the Tower"
No. The Old Ones were Los's instruments in destroying the Tower. If it weren't for Gan capping his power, it's implied that Dis would have been able to rip apart reality by himself. The entire reason he needed the Old Ones, the Breakers and even his own avatar in order to accomplish his aims was because he was being prevented from doing anything on his own, and needed to be "set free" in order to truly enact his vision.

Also, IIRC the Chaos King was destroying Marvel's reality over time, not in one fell swoop. Even then, he has nowhere near the Crimson King's level of defensive hax saving him in this fight, so brute force is a moot point.

Ok, thanks

 

[Jockey-1337]

> Even 1-As can die dude that just means that Death is the death of all
It is pure NLF.


> also not everyone in Cthulhu mythos has type 5 immortality, checked their profiles again.Most of them only have type 10


Ok, it was changed yesterday . But anyway Type 10 is better than types 1, 3, 4.


So my immortality is better then yours .

pure NFL? even though it was stated in the story that Death will eventually claim everything even other High 1-Bs, Creation and even 1-As like Lucifer ?
there is no NLF about that dude, that's just something from the story.

And don't bring Cthulhu mythos in here

What you're saying is that DC's 1-As weakness is that they can die

It was stated is not equal to "it has been done".


Also different 1-As have different types of immortality.

 

[TheSandman31]

Yes, because it's going to happen in the future.Time doesn't matter to the Endless because for them time is a little iffy.The Realm of Death exist simultaneously in the past, present, and future.

At the end of everything, when Death completed her function, we see Death being the only living entity.Meaning all other beings are dead or else her role wont be over even if there is still something alive

we're straying further from the subject

anyway Destiny wins

 

[Aeyu]

Destiny wins for reasons which are stated above.

 

[TheSandman31]

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[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Destiny FRA

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

Destiny FRA

 

[Walking_Strawman]

Destiny FRA

 

[Thatoneguy78]

Wait isn't destiny like at the borderline of 1-A? If so How isn't this a stomp for destiny?

 

[AndrewBennet]

Chaos king is pralaya embody high 1b lvl while Destiny is stronger then Pralaya's 1A form . This is mismatch in favor of Destiny

 

[AndrewBennet]

Destiny should still win even if you use his high 1B form .


Even the book created from the shadow of destinys true book has enough power to control all of space and time and all the universes and can tear apart the space and time asunder if a person wishes to . I honestly dont think how chaos king can even effect destiny he could simply erase him before he ascended to high 1B form .


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