Chainsaw Man discussion thread

[Acertainbcplayer]

Consent is required before you put someone on the operating table!

Accept my deepest apology sir. NEVER AGAIN!


Anyways, what y'all think about Aging turning Pochiter into a tree? How do we interpret this? Cause Aging confirmed that turning people into tree is not it's power, not that this confirmed that Aging can't do so. Also because Pochiter can easily hurt Aging, would he now have Mountain level AP? Does it sounds too crazy? Man, I'm still skeptical about mountain dura Aging tbh.

 

[Epiccheev]

[Sweats nervously]

He's gonna get you bro, run

 

[Epiccheev]

I'd say we should treat him catching the Big Bullet as time stop, as opposed to dura. Helps avoid headache. Maybe Pochita only scales to him in combat speed. Travel speed is not as fast, so he can't dodge a bullet that requires him to move his entire body out of the way. Or... As a being with transcedental regeneration Aging was simply not caring enough to try amd dodge him. He seems like a very sedentary type of guy. Second option leaves Pochita where he is and keeps Primal fears at an unreachable level for the rest of the verse.

 

[Zabazab]

How do we interpret this?

Transmutation.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

I'd say we should treat him catching the Big Bullet as time stop, as opposed to dura. Helps avoid headache. Maybe Pochita only scales to him in combat speed. Travel speed is not as fast, so he can't dodge a bullet that requires him to move his entire body out of the way. Or... As a being with transcedental regeneration Aging was simply not caring enough to try amd dodge him. He seems like a very sedentary type of guy. Second option leaves Pochita where he is and keeps Primal fears at an unreachable level for the rest of the verse.

For Aging, the catching bullet thing isn't the reason he scales to mountain, but be cause of the reasoning that Primal Fears are transcendental to everything else, but their Dura has always been not the best, but their hax and their regen which makes them unkillable. So I think we should not scale their Dura at least to anything else unless they have shown to fully tank them without receiving any damage at all, while upgrading solely their regeneration feat by clarifying this and that, or hax.

For Pochita, 6th sense, again, was deleted by him, so if he got shot or attacked from somewhere he can't see or hear or feel, he will get hit, that's why the bullet hit him. Either way, I don't see Pochita's AP scaling to the bullet either, because he barely deflected the mini version of the bullet.

Transmutation.

Alright, for now it is I guess.

 

[CowHeadGod]

glad to see everything progress pretty well ever since the last time I was on here from what I've skimmed through. unfortunately, my life got real busy so I couldn't be there to see what came out of my Denji CRT. but I got some more time now, so thought about coming back and helping again with some stuff.

surprised nobody bothered to touch Power's page tho so might as well fix her up:

Thread 'Power (Chainsaw Man) Rework'

Jan 15, 2025

I guess I'm back to making stuff like this. Still got no creative title ideas tho, go figure.

Old Profile

New Profile

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Should be simple enough, tho I might as well address some things before they inevitably get mentioned.

1. Class M Pochita Scaling
I get the logic behind it but scaling Blood Devil Power off Pochita due to her eating pieces of him and thus "sharing the same power source" is very misguided. After all, the devils that ate pieces off the Gun Devil didn't magically jump up to the same level of it. Power definitely did get stronger but it's...

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expect some more CRTs from me about some minor stuff coming soon.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

I'm thinking about Yoru's ability, and there are some stuff I want to make clear:
1: Gun Goddess, this should be counted as a summoning ability right?
2: The bullet's ability to ignore the earth's curvature should be counted as limited homing attack or not? Not sure if there is any ability other than homing attack for this one.
3: What do we do for Yoru's ability to force sacrifice fingers? Do we just accept that she in someway owns them?
4: Again for Gun Goddess, should the dura be calculated? Because it can handle the Gun that produced all that energy directly to begin with, so it's physical strength and dura should be at least equal to the recoil. (does this requires a separate profile or nah?).

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Idk if anyone has done it or not, but I created the new profile for Yoru (haven't included soap knife and that one sword she created to fight Pochita yet). Plus the slicing Octopus and blocking Yoshida scans were lost somehow, need fixing.

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Justice for MREEE guy aka Cicada dude. He has the astounding Physical feat of being able to physically pull both Aging and the Old dude into Pochita's mouth. Mountain level fr fr.

 

[DrGreyman]

I'm thinking about Yoru's ability, and there are some stuff I want to make clear:
1: Gun Goddess, this should be counted as a summoning ability right?
2: The bullet's ability to ignore the earth's curvature should be counted as limited homing attack or not? Not sure if there is any ability other than homing attack for this one.
3: What do we do for Yoru's ability to force sacrifice fingers? Do we just accept that she in someway owns them?
4: Again for Gun Goddess, should the dura be calculated? Because it can handle the Gun that produced all that energy directly to begin with, so it's physical strength and dura should be at least equal to the recoil. (does this requires a separate profile or nah?).

1. ye, though she needed her call to arms to do it
2. i mean, regular ahh snipers have to take into account the curvature, i think it's just really good aiming?
3. she gained authority over them with her call to arms, and by procy the gun devil had authority over the gun owners
4. probably should honestly be calced, but since it can't move or attack without yoru it should just be on her profile

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

1. ye, though she needed her call to arms to do it

The Goddess summoning? I'm thinking again, we interpreted it as she used 80000 fingers to create a single bullet, but what if the 80000 fingers were only used to create the Gun Goddess? Anyways, I think to summon the Gun Goddess to start with, she needs the call to arms + sacrificing fingers (I'm not sure about this)

2. i mean, regular ahh snipers have to take into account the curvature, i think it's just really good aiming?

The problem is that this Bullet completely ignores the earth's Curvature itself, regular snipers don't have to take into account the Curvature of the earth since they can't even fly far enough to begin with.

3. she gained authority over them with her call to arms, and by procy the gun devil had authority over the gun owners

Eh, not sure about Gun Devil having authority over Gun owners tbh, that's a lil headcanon

4. probably should honestly be calced, but since it can't move or attack without yoru it should just be on her profile

Should 100% be calced or Wall_Level_Character_#100 will negs Gun Goddess via featless dura fodder (Darkness flashbacks). I'm not familiar with calc format so someone could help with this 100%. Calc the Recoil on the gun for Dura, or with any better method.


Anyways, I'll create a CRT

 

[Zabazab]

Eh, not sure about Gun Devil having authority over Gun owners tbh, that's a lil headcanon

Not really. It was all members of the NPA who had their trigger fingers sacrificed.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Not really. It was all members of the NPA who had their trigger fingers sacrificed.

Well, then should I change bio manip to Gun Goddess? Eh, I'm creating a CRT, answer there instead.

CRT for Asa here:

Thread 'War Fiend (Asa) profile update'

Jan 15, 2025

I've made a new sandbox profile to update War Fiend Stats after the battle against Aging.
Old Profile
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• chainsaw man (verse) content revision war fiend (asa mitaka)
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[Rez]

Well, then should I change bio manip to Gun Goddess? Eh, I'm creating a CRT, answer there instead.

CRT for Asa here:

Thread 'War Fiend (Asa) profile update'

Jan 15, 2025

I've made a new sandbox profile to update War Fiend Stats after the battle against Aging.
Old Profile
New Profile

• Acertainbcplayer
• chainsaw man (verse) content revision war fiend (asa mitaka)
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I would also recommend changing the name of the last key from post old age to post aging devil key, mostly cause even though old age is more accurate translation it's still not the official one.

 

[Epiccheev]

Fun fact: Pochita is a pretty big fan of Vance Joy's "Riptide" wich is why he kept asking for "Vance" from Kobeni.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

You really shouldn't have.

I'll leave this here then, I have all the scans ready in here anyways so I'll leave it to someone else to handle the grammar then (also to decide on how to place everything on the new Key to the Post CSM Church one.

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[That_moron2]

Old Age Devil WIP

Its called the Aging Devil, as for a picture...

 

[Zabazab]

I would also recommend changing the name of the last key from post old age to post aging devil key, mostly cause even though old age is more accurate translation it's still not the official one.

Aging is an ass localization and we will not be bending the knee to Viz. We use conquest over control for this reason too, and Kiga over Fami.

 

[Epiccheev]

I like Fami. The other 2, not so much.
Edit: as localization names.

 

[ElajRuengies]

I like Fami. The other 2, not so much.
Edit: as localization names.

Fami is unironically a great localization name, because it makes the last shot of Barem & the other Hybrids at the Family Burger in Ch. 141 significant, as the panel's framing on the cut-off "Family" sign puts "Fami" into focus.

 

[Zabazab]

I think it may be worth it to add a minor section of the Devil Physiology page regarding Primal Fear Devils just like with Fiends, as more continue to show up. No clue what they'd have different beyond better immortality though.

 

[ElajRuengies]

I think it may be worth it to add a minor section of the Devil Physiology page regarding Primal Fear Devils just like with Fiends, as more continue to show up. No clue what they'd have different beyond better immortality though.

Interdimensional Travel (Darkness reaching through manga panels from Hell to Santa, Falling casting people into Hell, Aging using mirrors) and a Regeneration that doesn't require blood.

 

[Epiccheev]

Iirc Primals are also the only Devils so far who can be contracted all the way from hell as opposed to some Devil Hunter HQ

 

[Pearly0nsams]

Falling Devil altering the shape of corpses and fusing them to create a body seems like a Primal Devil trait, considering how their bodies typically look.

Falling Devil door creating shenanigans and passive mid-high regen also

 

[Zabazab]

I think Falling's corpse stuff is unique to her, having multiple limbs/heads is a fairly common trait for devils.

 

[Epiccheev]

Any bets on what's the next Primal we will be getting?

 

[Pearly0nsams]

I think Falling's corpse stuff is unique to her, having multiple limbs/heads is a fairly common trait for devils.

Darkness Devil's body is literally bunch of human corpses but idk

Any bets on what's the next Primal we will be getting?

Disease

 

[Epiccheev]

Disease's design has the potential to be so grotesque.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Any bets on what's the next Primal we will be getting?

Since ***** going wild, maybe natural disaster.

Also, I fixed the new profile for Asa based on people's opinion (grammar and other stuff like removing the new key, fixing some justification and formats, etc...). Someone who is a grammar master, please review the profile and fix anywhere you feel not good enough. Also should check if limited biological manip fits or not/ any other abilities too.

After that the profile should be done with tbh.

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[That_moron2]

Since ***** going wild, maybe natural disaster.

Also, I fixed the new profile for Asa based on people's opinion (grammar and other stuff like removing the new key, fixing some justification and formats, etc...). Someone who is a grammar master, please review the profile and fix anywhere you feel not good enough. Also should check if limited biological manip fits or not/ any other abilities too.

After that the profile should be done with tbh.

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I think I fixed everything, do you mind if I do some stuff on Aging as well?

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

I think I fixed everything, do you mind if I do some stuff on Aging as well?

You did? Peak. Ask Zabazab for permission on Aging.

 

[Zabazab]

do you mind if I do some stuff on Aging as well?

I do mind yeah. If you have critiques just convey them, we have plenty of time.


Also— We should probably do the AP upgrade thread and then the profile updates for War, Primals, Pochita, etc.

 

[That_moron2]

I do mind yeah. If you have critiques just convey them, we have plenty of time.

Should be aging and not Old Age since
1. Aging is a better name
2. That's the official TL

 

[ElajRuengies]

Chainsaw Man profiles are gonna look hilarious in the future if the art-style keeps changing for the adaptations. Imagine having to go through all this for pictures of the same person-

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[Zabazab]

Should be aging and not Old Age since
1. Aging is a better name
2. That's the official TL

I disagree, it's an incorrect name. And it being the official TL does not matter when it's wrong. 老(お)い does not mean aging it means old age. There are also implications that aging as a concept has which old age does not.

 

[That_moron2]

I disagree, it's an incorrect name. And it being the official TL does not matter when it's wrong. 老(お)い does not mean aging it means old age. There are also implications that aging as a concept has which old age does not.

Fair enough. Also the scaling values go at the end of the justification. And could we not scale Aging to FTL+?

 

[Zabazab]

the scaling values go at the end of the justification

The fact that this became the standard sucks but it is what it is.

And could we not scale Aging to FTL+?

Gunshy and Elaj primarily handle stat scaling, but personally I doubt anyone scales.

 

[That_moron2]

The fact that this became the standard sucks

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Bro, I was convinced people are all adrenaline addicts, like holy hell, this chapter is anti-climatic because it's not supposed to make us climax anymore as we've experienced that back at Gun Goddess and stuff already, as Aging stated we're wasting time and blood, nothing could be achieve by fighting him anymore

you’re lowkey mad that we want good content yes i want to see a single good fight in this manga. fujimoto dickriders have been saying that it’s “supposed to be anticlimactic” since the csm church arc, im tired of this manga being boring

pochita vs yoru ending in two hits after buildup throughout the entire manga was not a satisfying climax

pochita vs aging sucked, there’s no way you can excuse fujimoto writing an anticlimactic fight (again) between two primal level devils after months of boring chapters. i don’t care if he wrote into the story that the fight needed to be lame, maybe he’s wrong

 

[Zabazab]

Possibly something you're feeling due to the weekly experience, I think. The anticlimax is good because it serves both the plot and themes of Chainsaw Man while remaining true to the characters, rather than contradicting these parts of the story. That's what I want from a manga: interesting writing. Your boredom is a subjective experience just like our enjoyment is, and it may just mean Chainsaw Man isn't for you.

 

[ElajRuengies]

The fact that this became the standard sucks but it is what it is.


Gunshy and Elaj primarily handle stat scaling, but personally I doubt anyone scales.

Yeah, nobody scales to Yoru's Call to Arms speed.

Every day I thank the Lord that powerscalers don't write Chainsaw Man.