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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn said:
Jesus Christ, what the hell is going on with this chapter?!
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  • Denji's Throat GOAT skills- foreshadowed when he stuck an entire bouquet of flowers in his mouth in Part 1- are put to the limit as Yoru shoves her whole f*cking torso into his mouth.
  • Yoshida is decidedly not the Octopus Devil, but he can use the Octopus Devil just after being vomited implying it's stored on his person like Future in Aki's eye.
  • Aging references Yoshida's statement last chapter and agrees, noting hostilities only add to the body count. Also "they" say that Aging's flesh tastes like lotus root, whoever that is.
  • Fumiko has a Fumiklone. Twomiko says that she promised herself she'd use her last moments for the winning side, and leaves it to Fumiko. Fumiko switches sides again and gives Yoshida her heart, who then lets Octopus have it.
  • Octopus pulls an End of Evangelion.
 
ElajRuengies said:
  • Denji's Throat GOAT skills- foreshadowed when he stuck an entire bouquet of flowers in his mouth in Part 1- are put to the limit as Yoru shoves her whole f*cking torso into his mouth.
  • Yoshida is decidedly not the Octopus Devil, but he can use the Octopus Devil just after being vomited implying it's stored on his person like Future in Aki's eye.
  • Aging references Yoshida's statement last chapter and agrees, noting hostilities only add to the body count. Also "they" say that Aging's flesh tastes like lotus root, whoever that is.
  • Fumiko has a Fumiklone. Twomiko says that she promised herself she'd use her last moments for the winning side, and leaves it to Fumiko. Fumiko switches sides again and gives Yoshida her heart, who then lets Octopus have it.
  • Octopus pulls an End of Evangelion.
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That sounds about right. I think it's interesting that Fumiko's "clone" has a name: Mifune.
 
Found this old entry under Damsel Scrappy and laughed.
  • Fumiko Mifune from Chainsaw Man. She's introduced as an eccentric yet presumably competent bodyguard to Denji. She promptly spends the rest of her screentime getting her ass handed to her—at one point by an old lady—without doing anything even remotely helpful for Denji and Nayuta. On top of that, her first onscreen action is sexually assaulting Denji, which later gets worse as she reveals her true colors as an EXTREMELY shitty and self-centered person who has virtually zero impact on the narrative despite several chapters being spent on her. And on top of that, Fumiko's presence in the story coincided with several other more popular characters getting more-or-less pushed to the side for extended periods of time. All that is to say, she's an unlikable, incompetent coward who steals screentime from the characters who the audience is actually interested in and could be cut out entirely with the plot remaining exactly the same. While there are certainly other characters who fall into the Hate Sink category, they're all either engaging to watch and have an impact on the narrative or play such a minor role that the audience doesn't have enough time to get sick of them. Fumiko does neither, being both an absolutely detestable person and absolute waste of time for the story.
 
ElajRuengies said:
Found this old entry under Damsel Scrappy and laughed.
  • Fumiko Mifune from Chainsaw Man. She's introduced as an eccentric yet presumably competent bodyguard to Denji. She promptly spends the rest of her screentime getting her ass handed to her—at one point by an old lady—without doing anything even remotely helpful for Denji and Nayuta. On top of that, her first onscreen action is sexually assaulting Denji, which later gets worse as she reveals her true colors as an EXTREMELY shitty and self-centered person who has virtually zero impact on the narrative despite several chapters being spent on her. And on top of that, Fumiko's presence in the story coincided with several other more popular characters getting more-or-less pushed to the side for extended periods of time. All that is to say, she's an unlikable, incompetent coward who steals screentime from the characters who the audience is actually interested in and could be cut out entirely with the plot remaining exactly the same. While there are certainly other characters who fall into the Hate Sink category, they're all either engaging to watch and have an impact on the narrative or play such a minor role that the audience doesn't have enough time to get sick of them. Fumiko does neither, being both an absolutely detestable person and absolute waste of time for the story.
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Clearly a Fumiko hater
 
Before the next chapter comes out tmr (probably gonna be crazy as shit), I'll summarize Aging's stats and ability so far:

1: Speed scales to Yoru's bullet, AP scales to Pochita's dura (maybe), Dura is unknown as always (dura doesn't even matter at this point)
2: Timestop hax basically confirmed (could be passive that needs activation first, could be manual timestop), don't know why bro is not using it on Pochita though (doesn't care type shit)
3: Can age literally anything in the verse, including devils (Devils will turn to tree instead), seems to be instantaneous. Can age stuff by just pointing too.
4: Aging can use contract to instantly cause Cancer of some sort that instantly explodes and detaches body parts, which is bio manip.
5: Aging's regen is confirmed to be so stupidly strong that it considered Pochita bisecting it again and again to be a waste of time, might be completely immortal with this regen (wait until we get Primal Fears tanking nukes so we can confirm that only existence erasure might do something to them)
6: Dimensional travel via lots of stuff. It can manifest on trees in it's own world, or use mirrors to get from hell to earth easily, can also BFR using mirrors too (idk why we forgot this, literally OP asf)
7: It has insane creation feat of creating it's own world

Domain:
Aging can power null inside of it's domain (Yosida said devil powers can't be used inside of the domain, but octopus is with him in the domain, so it's basically confirmed that not because devils can't reach inside the domain from earth, but power literally won't work inside there, including Aging's power (Yoru getting back to Aging's world got her beautiful and cute face normal again).

Aging can give immortality to everything inside of it's domain

There are 0 way out of it's domain unless you can have a convenient portal that's pre-existed, connecting from it's domain to earth.

Am I missing anything?
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Am I missing anything?
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Limited Large Size for its hands(?) via portals, considering the Pochita-sized punches it threw.

I wonder if Aging's world was something it created or found considering that it nullifies even its own powers. We're assuming the former considering the Cicada-Man's statement, but he was seemingly wrong about it being a mental world, so who knows.

[Edit: Nevermind Aging literally stated that it didn't give the place an exit, meaning Aging really did make a whole dang world.]
 
ElajRuengies said:
Limited Large Size for its hands(?) via portals, considering the Pochita-sized punches it threw.

I wonder if Aging's world was something it created or found considering that it nullifies even its own powers. We're assuming the former considering the Cicada-Man's statement, but he was seemingly wrong about it being a mental world, so who knows.

[Edit: Nevermind Aging literally stated that it didn't give the place an exit, meaning Aging really did make a whole dang world.]
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Aging can still show it's face inside it's world via some wacky ass stuff, so I think the power null thing doesn't really apply to Aging, but more like because people in Aging's world can't age and can't die and Yoru's ass is still in it's world, the aging effect she received somehow got reversed.

Anyways, I'm just happy that primal fears are finally gaining some real stats and hax, man I missed the time when people be calling Darkness wall level or some shit.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Aging can still show it's face inside it's world via some wacky ass stuff, so I think the power null thing doesn't really apply to Aging, but more like because people in Aging's world can't age and can't die and Yoru's ass is still in it's world, the aging effect she received somehow got reversed.
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Yoru's ass wasn't what was aged though, it was her face. The reason why the effects got reverted, despite them being physical changes, is because devil powers have in TVTrope Speak- No Ontological Inertia, which is when effects are negated when their causes are negated, even if the negation happens after the cause caused the effect. Yoru went back into Aging's world where devil powers don't work, she was aged by a devil's power, so now she's fine.

This is also why I still hold that the Zombie Devil never died, as it's explicitly laid out that devil powers fade after the Devil dies. Just because Zombification is a mutation doesn't mean it's exempt from that.
Acertainbcplayer said:
Anyways, I'm just happy that primal fears are finally gaining some real stats and hax, man I missed the time when people be calling Darkness wall level or some shit.
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Upscaling above the Gun Devil to Town level+ was really funny to read though ngl.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Before the next chapter comes out tmr (probably gonna be crazy as shit), I'll summarize Aging's stats and ability so far:

1: Speed scales to Yoru's bullet, AP scales to Pochita's dura (maybe), Dura is unknown as always (dura doesn't even matter at this point)
2: Timestop hax basically confirmed (could be passive that needs activation first, could be manual timestop), don't know why bro is not using it on Pochita though (doesn't care type shit)
3: Can age literally anything in the verse, including devils (Devils will turn to tree instead), seems to be instantaneous. Can age stuff by just pointing too.
4: Aging can use contract to instantly cause Cancer of some sort that instantly explodes and detaches body parts, which is bio manip.
5: Aging's regen is confirmed to be so stupidly strong that it considered Pochita bisecting it again and again to be a waste of time, might be completely immortal with this regen (wait until we get Primal Fears tanking nukes so we can confirm that only existence erasure might do something to them)
6: Dimensional travel via lots of stuff. It can manifest on trees in it's own world, or use mirrors to get from hell to earth easily, can also BFR using mirrors too (idk why we forgot this, literally OP asf)
7: It has insane creation feat of creating it's own world

Domain:
Aging can power null inside of it's domain (Yosida said devil powers can't be used inside of the domain, but octopus is with him in the domain, so it's basically confirmed that not because devils can't reach inside the domain from earth, but power literally won't work inside there, including Aging's power (Yoru getting back to Aging's world got her beautiful and cute face normal again).

Aging can give immortality to everything inside of it's domain

There are 0 way out of it's domain unless you can have a convenient portal that's pre-existed, connecting from it's domain to earth.

Am I missing anything?
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Limited fissionism maybe for separating pochita and Denji
 
ElajRuengies said:
Yoru's ass wasn't what was aged though, it was her face. The reason why the effects got reverted, despite them being physical changes, is because devil powers have in TVTrope Speak- No Ontological Inertia, which is when effects are negated when their causes are negated, even if the negation happens after the cause caused the effect. Yoru went back into Aging's world where devil powers don't work, she was aged by a devil's power, so now she's fine.

This is also why I still hold that the Zombie Devil never died, as it's explicitly laid out that devil powers fade after the Devil dies. Just because Zombification is a mutation doesn't mean it's exempt from that.

Upscaling above the Gun Devil to Town level+ was really funny to read though ngl.
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Island level Thanks to Maru
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Chainsaw Man - El Gun Devil viaja de América a Japón

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ElajRuengies said:
The 20% Gun Devil already was off the coast of Japan when the "hits Japan for 12 seconds", recording started, it didn't take 12 seconds to travel there. We don't know how long that took, invalid calc.
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It could have not take hours or minutes, neither a eternity
 
ElajRuengies said:
This is also why I still hold that the Zombie Devil never died, as it's explicitly laid out that devil powers fade after the Devil dies. Just because Zombification is a mutation doesn't mean it's exempt from that.
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And yet there are exceptions like Zombie and Doll (two fairly similar devil powers) which turn humans into devils, and are stated to never be able to return to normal.

Like Zombie was vertically bisected and left like that for hours 😭
 
Zabazab said:
And yet there are exceptions like Zombie and Doll (two fairly similar devil powers) which turn humans into devils, and are stated to never be able to return to normal.
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It's not confirmed that Santa Claus is the Doll Devil, as while when speaking through Tolka (after he's been turned into a perfect doll) she says "I am the Doll Devil" to Darkness, Santa Claus herself says she has a contract with the Doll Devil.
Zabazab said:
Like Zombie was vertically bisected and left like that for hours 😭
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It's the Zombie Devil. As in, "Decapitate the Head or Destroy the Brain" Zombie Devil. Note how the brain in its neck-stump was still intact.
 
ElajRuengies said:
It's not confirmed that Santa Claus is the Doll Devil, as while when speaking through Tolka (after he's been turned into a perfect doll) she says "I am the Doll Devil" to Darkness, Santa Claus herself says she has a contract with the Doll Devil.
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Santa being a doll devil contractor has very little to do with the Doll Devil's power permanently turning people into dolls, with no way for them to turn back to normal.

ElajRuengies said:
It's the Zombie Devil. As in, "Decapitate the Head or Destroy the Brain" Zombie Devil.
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Unfortunately a headcanon, especially with how terrified it was of Denji.
 
Well I'll be honest I don't really understand
But I fell down this hill, now I got glue on my hands
And I got records on my fingers (Whaat?)
Records on my fingers
I got records on my fingers and I just can't stop
(Don't stop)
I can't stop I got a Makima controlling me
(Whaaat?)
I got a Makima controlling me
Now let me sum it up
It was a strange set of circumstances
(Strange set of circumstances)
I fell down the hill, I got glue on my hands now I got records on my fingers
And I just can't stop
(Don't stop don't stop)
Well I would if I was able
There's a Makima controlling me she's underneath the table
(There's a Makima controlling him, what?)
(*Makima is a metaphor for everything keeping you down, Corporations are Makimas,Society is a Makima your family are Makimas )
 
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Less than 3 hours before what might be peak fight. PLACE YOUR BET!!!

1: Octopus get neg diff, Pochita make Denji throw up the Nuke Devil and make Octopus eat it, in the process cucking Yoru of her child, then we fight again.
2: Epic fight, Fumiko is actually the sexual assault devil and Octopus got a huge buff for that
3: That mountain behind that house looks like it's gonna be gone soon... (small country level incoming), Tank will be used.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Less than 3 hours before what might be peak fight. PLACE YOUR BET!!!

1: Octopus get neg diff, Pochita make Denji throw up the Nuke Devil and make Octopus eat it, in the process cucking Yoru of her child, then we fight again.
2: Epic fight, Fumiko is actually the sexual assault devil and Octopus got a huge buff for that
3: That mountain behind that house looks like it's gonna be gone soon... (small country level incoming), Tank will be used.
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I completely forgot Tank was a thing ngl.
 
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