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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Also tbf Death almost certainly could have soloed Pochita seeing as she is bar none the strongest Devil in the verse, and it's only via stacking Pochita with other massively cracked Devils like Yoru and probably the other 2 Horse Girls plus their Weapon entourage and a handful of Primal Fears that anyone could possibly hope to defeat her
Keep in mind that not only was Pochita weakened from his battle with the Four Horsemen and the Weapons Devils, but because of the populace's love for Chainsaw Man, he's been weakened even further. It's unclear whether the effects of Chainsaw Man's popularity on Pochita permanently affect his strength until humanity regains fear of chainsaws or Chainsaw Man. However, I don't believe that Death could have soloed Pochita. If she could, she probably wouldn't have bothered to partner with her sisters and the Weapons Devils in the first place.
 
Yall think the Gun Devil was part of the Weapons devils that Pochita fought?

And that is maybe how the Gun Devil was defeated in the first place and its pieces able to be gathered by different countries?

It's the only thing that makes sense cause humanity didn't have the firepower to fight that thing plus we know Pochita ate several Weapons devils during his battle with the Horseman including Nuclear Bombs
 
Can Pochita even willingly vomit a devil out? Only case so far has been power, wich involved Pochita letting himself be eaten by her (granted it was a special case)
 
Yoru seems to think she can make Pochita vomit up a Name, and while she is Very Stupid, I trust her here.

Power wasn't even eaten by Pochita though, her Fiend blood was just inside Denji, and eating a bit of Pochita allowed her to burst out of him as the full-powered Blood Devil.
 
Chainsaw Man, chaotic Hero of Hell, delivering Devils from Hell's womb when they ask to be saved. Ending their eternal cycle of suffering by cannibalizing them- literally becoming one with them.

The themes of birth and rebirth in Chainsaw Man run super deep, the only one I caught on my own was the obvious one- Nayuta metaphorically being Denji and Makima's daughter born from their abusive relationship, but being allowed to escape that cycle of abuse through Denji's love.
 
Yoru seems to think she can make Pochita vomit up a Name, and while she is Very Stupid, I trust her here.
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Yall think the Gun Devil was part of the Weapons devils that Pochita fought?
I don't think so, the battle against Chainsaw Man was in Hell. And the Gun Devil was discovered shortly after it attacked the world, already defeated and unconscious in the Soviet Union. This means there's a Devil currently on Earth that surpasses the Gun Devil in strength.
 
I don't think so, the battle against Chainsaw Man was in Hell. And the Gun Devil was discovered shortly after it attacked the world, already defeated and unconscious in the Soviet Union. This means there's a Devil currently on Earth that surpasses the Gun Devil in strength.
Then what devil could have it had been?

Only Devils we know of stronger than the Gun Devil are


- Pochita

- 4 Horseman

- Primal Devils
 
Do you guys ever wonder if Devils can become stronger on their own by training? Or are they solely reliant on humanity's fear of them to sustain their power? Like Denji's gotten better at using his powers, but nothing indicates he's grown in physical strength or speed, just his skill and ability to use his powers more effectively.
 
Do you guys ever wonder if Devils can become stronger on their own by training? Or are they solely reliant on humanity's fear of them to sustain their power? Like Denji's gotten better at using his powers, but nothing indicates he's grown in physical strength or speed, just his skill and ability to use his powers more effectively.
Well, he has beaten a devil that one shot the Bat Devil by accident. And Denji was fine after this confrontation
 
Do you guys ever wonder if Devils can become stronger on their own by training? Or are they solely reliant on humanity's fear of them to sustain their power? Like Denji's gotten better at using his powers, but nothing indicates he's grown in physical strength or speed, just his skill and ability to use his powers more effectively.
I kinda doubt that the fear of bows and arrows is especially prevalent among weapons atp so yeah I'm guessing they can get quite a bit stronger through training considering Quanxi could stomp Whip and Sword, both of whom are probably more feared than bows in the current day which frankly are viewed more as something for prey animals to fear, and can even be viewed quite innocuously as a fun method of strength training and honing one's hand-eye coordination. Plus current Denji and Cockroach Devil did one-shot Bat Devil without even acknowledging that Bat was there, whereas Denji was trading hits with Bat when he first started out.
 
Another question. How come the Death Devil hasn't appeared yet and is waiting? Cuz it seems like some Devils can willingly go from Earth to Hell without having to die. Is she waiting for something? Is she just going by the prophecy? Or you think that this'll be answered by Fujimoto in the future chapters?
 
Another question. How come the Death Devil hasn't appeared yet and is waiting? Cuz it seems like some Devils can willingly go from Earth to Hell without having to die. Is she waiting for something? Is she just going by the prophecy? Or you think that this'll be answered by Fujimoto in the future chapters?
She's just holding off for dramatic effect
 

New blog for the recent deathbattle. Mountain lvl CSM?

Btw who has seen the deathbattle between Gojo and Makima. They placed CSM at large town lvl
 
"I thought it was extremely implied that the chainsaw devil devoured oblivion devil (or some similar devil) with the whole thing of other devils wanting to consume his heart to be able to erase concepts"

What do you all think about this?
 
I'm surprised they somehow gave Makima the speed advantage. Also, they considered Bang as TK that can target internals as opposed to giving Makima bio hax.
But yeah, i agree with it. Domain expansion + Hollow Purple are things Makima just can't counter (without giving her benefit of doubt in everything, since Fujimotor doesn't care for powerscaling. ) while Gojo can arguably resist or counter everything Makima could do.
 
If one gives Makima prior knowledge of Gojo's reputation, it can definitely go either way. I did have some issues with the research for both characters though.
 
Speaking of CSM and knowing stuff, we really oughtta bump our boy Denji's intelligence up to Gifted. His perceptive and deductive abilities in figuring out how to get the drop on Makima as well as finding loopholes in her contract through which to kill her definitely warrant that, since he was even more in-the-dark than Kishibe, who himself is really damn keen and very experienced when it comes to killing Devils, but could come up with no other plan against Makima except to run and hide.
Plus, while Denji does seem to have some behavioral issues in school, he doesn't seem to be totally unadjusted or out of his depth. Frankly, that's a f---ing miracle considering he hasn't been to school since he was 8 years old at most. Add to that the fact that he mopped the floor with a dozen armed thugs after getting jumped and starting unarmed, and he's got the fight IQ to back up a Gifted rating across the board.
 

New blog for the recent deathbattle. Mountain lvl CSM?

Btw who has seen the deathbattle between Gojo and Makima. They placed CSM at large town lvl
Wonder If I can find anything here that could lead to some upgrades
 
The 7-A calc might be unusable for now. I'm pretty sure we don't use KE for a character moving really fast unless they hit something, which GD never did
 
You could say it hit everything in it's path, no? There were leveled paths through cities showing where it moved through.
 
We also have supporting evidence with the Typhoon Devil who did legit create a typhoon
Plus that should probably scale to it in full seeing as typhoons are literally it's whole thing. Besides, typhoons are pretty damn scary when they come to town, so Typhoon is likely a respectably powerful Devil, even compared to something like Bat or Leech
 
Huh, they correctly pointed out that Makima's Contract was still sacraficing Japanese citizens to revive her when she was food, and she only finally died when Denji finished eating all of her out of love- including her hair.

For any AP shenanigans, there is always the "Pochita defeated and ate the Nuclear Weapons Devil" that exists as support.
 
I believe that there will eventually be a massive AP upgrade for the top tiers of Chainsaw Man regardless. Considering the scope of the upcoming conflict and how Falling Devil merely arriving was enough to invert gravity, I'm sure there's gonna be a huge battle between Pochita and Death devil or something along those lines. And as already mentioned, Pochita fought and ate the Nuclear Weapons devil, which heavily implies he could withstand nuclear-sized explosions. It'd be fun if somebody estimated what kind of nuclear weaponry the nuclear weapons devil would possess, like from what era the nuclear weapons were developed or the ones people feared most.

It'd be really clever if back then, Nuclear Weapons Devil power was proportionate to the scale of the weapons. Like after Fat Man and Little Boy were created, humanity's fear would allow Nuclear Weapons Devil to generate the same AP as those weapons, which is calculated on Vs Battles as Town level. Then it gets upgraded after more nuclear weapons tests are conducted in later years like the Tsar Bomba, which would upgrade the Nuclear Weapons Devil to 7-B. Of course, this all assumes people know the precise potency of the nuclear weapons. This is all just random speculation, but it's pretty cool to think about.
 
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Nuclear Weapons was High 6-A or even 5-B at their peak, given that mass atmospheric fusion was a legitimate concern at times, and the paranoia that the world nuclear stockpile could outright rip the entire planet asunder is still a fairly common one. Plus, Nuclear Weapons likely came into existence practically at peak strength and was eaten by Pochita at or near peak strength, since that massive boss raid against Pochita took place during the Cold War
 
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Nuclear Weapons was High 6-A or even 5-B at their peak, given that mass atmospheric fusion was a legitimate concern at times, and the paranoia that the world nuclear stockpile could outright rip the entire planet asunder is still a fairly common one. Plus, Nuclear Weapons likely came into existence practically at peak strength and was eaten by Pochita at or near peak strength, since that massive boss raid against Pochita took place during the Cold War
Huh, never thought about it like that. Since devils are born from humanity's fears, it would be fascinating if the nuclear weapons devil's power was proportionate to how much people feared nuclear armageddon could do and its powers exceeded what even the most destructive nuclear weapons developed were capable of. This all assumes we'll actually see nuclear weapons devil again, and it won't remain trapped or permanently digested inside of Pochita.
 
Plus that should probably scale to it in full seeing as typhoons are literally it's whole thing. Besides, typhoons are pretty damn scary when they come to town, so Typhoon is likely a respectably powerful Devil, even compared to something like Bat or Leech
Huh, they correctly pointed out that Makima's Contract was still sacraficing Japanese citizens to revive her when she was food, and she only finally died when Denji finished eating all of her out of love- including her hair.

For any AP shenanigans, there is always the "Pochita defeated and ate the Nuclear Weapons Devil" that exists as support.
I MIGHT try to cook
 
Ngl that blog was cooking when they pointed out Pochita was implied to be slower when he lost some of the fear towards him. Fear = All stats Empowered may be fax :unsure:
 
Primal Devils are probably gonna be Planetary more likely than not

I mean, a low tier primal like Falling passively inverted the planet's gravity ( pretty sure I saw a moon level calc for it once but lost the link )
 
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