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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Ghost doesn't exists in csm, only the ghost devil does
This is so stupid, dude. For devils to exist, the object (or concept) associated with their fear would have to exist, in some capacity.
Why would people be afraid of zombies if they don't exist? Why would people be afraid of ghosts if they don't exist? Why would people be afraid of eternity... if nothing is eternal (a lie, devils are), and so on.
I mean, there were supposedly four other possibilities other than death, and they were real... until Pochita erased them.
 
Why would people be afraid of zombies if they don't exist? Why would people be afraid of ghosts if they don't exist?
Read this out loud and mull it over.

To explain anyway in case this needs clarified: Things don't need to ACTUALLY exist for people to fear the concept of them. Monsters like zombies and ghosts and vampires are not real, but people are still afraid of these things. In fact they're staples of horror! Fictional concepts can still have devils with their names, and people can fear these fictional concepts.
 
To explain anyway in case this needs clarified: Things don't need to ACTUALLY exist for people to fear the concept of them. Monsters like zombies and ghosts and vampires are not real, but people are still afraid of these things. In fact they're staples of horror! Fictional concepts can still have devils with their names, and people can fear these fictional concepts.
man....there were zombies in the FIRST EPISODE (yes i know they are just the things created by the zombie devil but still), DEVILS ARE REAL DAMMIT.
 
man....there were zombies in the FIRST EPISODE (yes i know they are just the things created by the zombie devil but still), DEVILS ARE REAL DAMMIT.
This is so stupid, dude. For devils to exist, the object (or concept) associated with their fear would have to exist, in some capacity.
Why would people be afraid of zombies if they don't exist? Why would people be afraid of ghosts if they don't exist? Why would people be afraid of eternity... if nothing is eternal (a lie, devils are), and so on.
I mean, there were supposedly four other possibilities other than death, and they were real... until Pochita erased them.
Man, I sure am afraid of the Cosmic horror beyond human understanding that surely exists somewhere out there that will someday destroy our world.

in some capacity.
You explained it yourself, Ghost do not exists for real, but people's mind made them up, so now they are feared, and thus Ghost Devil comes up and wreck people's shit. And Ghost cannot exists in Chainsaw man thanks to Pochita literally deleting every ending to life but Death.
 
I see two 8-As and maybe Choso's self-blood manip will prevent him from getting his brain turned into a rapier.
Power's Blood Manip is stronger, 8-A+ vs Choso's 8-A, can manip blood aside from her own which Choso cant. Also reading from the weakness section on his profile, he's vulnerable to thrombosis if he harden the blood inside his body so imagine how effective Power suddenly hardening and creating almost a dozen blood weapon all over his body. Tho given his CQC and general intelligence advantage this should still make a good fight
 
You explained it yourself, Ghost do not exists for real, but people's mind made them up, so now they are feared, and thus Ghost Devil comes up and wreck people's shit. And Ghost cannot exists in Chainsaw man thanks to Pochita literally deleting every ending to life but Death.
People still turn into trees after a few thousands years, also pochita erased the concept specific to the thing.
When he erased ears, all ears were gone, but not things related to ears.
So in this case, Ghost exists but that is not a ending
 
Really funny to me that Makima's damage transfer contract is something any devil at all could do. Bucky can do that. It's just a contract.
Without the contractee having authority over a large group of people, i dont think any devils can replicate the sheer effect of Makima's contract with the prime minister of Japan, maybe the various pieces of the Gun Devil could with their respective government
 
People still turn into trees after a few thousands years, also pochita erased the concept specific to the thing.
When he erased ears, all ears were gone, but not things related to ears.
So in this case, Ghost exists but that is not a ending
Isn't necessarily so. Ghost is the soul of the dead, that's what's the concept is all about. But then that means the end to a human's life isn't just death anymore, but instead it's becoming a ghost. Things related to ears are different, history could fix itself to fit them in, but they don't necessarily have to disappear. However in this case, because all possible outcomes to a Ghost are deleted, and it's not like the world just creates new major concepts to fill in the gap, that never happened in Chainsaw man, there isn't a new ending to life just popping up out of nowhere to support the existence of Ghosts, history can just make Ghosts disappear as a real thing and make them exists purely in the mind.
Yeah possibly. Just depends on what calcs get accepted and the 7-A is from Kenjaku resisting BH.
Eh, the logic seems faulty at a glance, so if anything I'll be against it completely (unless I'm looking at the wrong calc, but it seems like the right one)
 
The methods already accepted by two cgm


Nope. He used the ct way after that.
7-A JJK seems weird, especially considering the strongest attacks from the 2 top dogs couldnt even crack 7-B let alone 7-A. But oh well at least now i know how impressive my goat Finn the Human was for resisting a black hole when he was barely 13
 
Isn't necessarily so. Ghost is the soul of the dead, that's what's the concept is all about. But then that means the end to a human's life isn't just death anymore, but instead it's becoming a ghost. Things related to ears are different, history could fix itself to fit them in, but they don't necessarily have to disappear. However in this case, because all possible outcomes to a Ghost are deleted, and it's not like the world just creates new major concepts to fill in the gap, that never happened in Chainsaw man, there isn't a new ending to life just popping up out of nowhere to support the existence of Ghosts, history can just make Ghosts disappear as a real thing and make them exists purely in the mind.
Then again, people should not turn into trees
 
Wdym anti feats?
Don't wanna rant and fill up the whole page with JJK stuff, but I have done that more than 10 times already.

I think I'll just add this one thing. Yuki being able to talk while a black hole formed is a mass of bs, especially when Gege made it clear that a bit afterwards is when the sound from her voices actually started to being completely pulled into the black hole.

Furthermore, Yuki herself surviving the force of a black hole directly AND BEING ABLE TO TALK when Kenjaku is having a hard time dealing with it, all while physically they are NOT that far off, is also just bs. That's all I gotta say for now, it GETS WORSE.

Also black hole has to be round, from the image used (and even the line used for pixel scaling) ARE NOT ROUND AT ALL. In fact they looks more like a special effect to me (and by "more like" I mean definitely). So Idk why that diabolical of a calc was accepted, but it's NOT going through me, I ain't gonna deal with mountain level JJK where characters can't even consistently punches buildings apart (keyword is punch).
Then again, people should not turn into trees
Wym? That's what happens in the Csm verse, nothing is wrong here. They did not die so that's not a conclusion to their lives, they just turns into trees.
 
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Anyone else think Blood Devil Power LS should at least scale to the like of Masked Violence. Seems weird for it to stay at Class 5 even after being amped by Pochita
Yeah, we can handle that in the Speed And Other Stuff CRT.
Also the Class 100 currently scale to 95 t which is literally less than 1.1x away from class K. Couldnt we at least upscale those who scale above Masked Violence to class K
Huh, that's weird I thought I already did that for Post-Reze Fight Denji.
 
Huh, that's weird I thought I already did that for Post-Reze Fight Denji.
Nah, so much of the verse is just 1.05x time away from the sweet embrace of Class K. Also, on that topic, what's the limit for upscaling again, iirc 1.1-1.2x is fair right. If so the High 8-C+ with enhanced attacks like Reze could potentially upscale to 8-B with stronger explosions (cant believe theres no instances of her destroying Public Safety suits)
 
I just thought of something, if the Cosmos Fiend exists, then it logically follows that the Cosmos Devil is also a reality in the verse and since Cosmos is just a synonym for the Universe, that means the Universe Devil also exists (and Cosmo being the Universe is supported by her stealing Gojo’s domain expansion lol)

And since Pochita is feared by all devils… #nooticing
 
When a weak a** devil embodying the fear of chickens gets a profile before a devil embodying the fear of eternity
Idk why Eternity didn't even get a profile. Tbh lots of cool devils never really got a profile (Like Fox, how the heck did it not get a profile until now), but after the Mega CRT and all the fear scaling stuff, I can understand why. It's best to wait at least until the series to end to start making Chainsaw man not looking so dead anymore tbh.

Typhoon is getting a profile after the Reze movie. And I think Curse deserves a profile too.
 
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In Chp 46 Reze ,by self destructing her human body, managed to blow off the arm of a Devil Hunter despite most of it being protected by the Public Safety suit. Him discarding the suits despite its protective qualities also seems to imply either the suit was too badly damaged to be of practical use, or he just wanted to tied up his missing arm. Does this mean anything for her scaling and if it does would it be applicable to her Hybrid form or just scale to her self-destruction
 
I think I'll just add this one thing. Yuki being able to talk while a black hole formed is a mass of bs, especially when Gege made it clear that a bit afterwards is when the sound from her voices actually started to being completely pulled into the black hole.

Furthermore, Yuki herself surviving the force of a black hole directly AND BEING ABLE TO TALK when Kenjaku is having a hard time dealing with it, all while physically they are NOT that far off, is also just bs. That's all I gotta say for now, it GETS WORSE.
To be fair, Talking Is A Free Action.
When a weak a** devil embodying the fear of chickens gets a profile before a devil embodying the fear of eternity
Gotta have a Fodder/Basement Tier rep.
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In Chp 46 Reze ,by self destructing her human body, managed to blow off the arm of a Devil Hunter despite most of it being protected by the Public Safety suit. Him discarding the suits despite its protective qualities also seems to imply either the suit was too badly damaged to be of practical use, or he just wanted to tied up his missing arm. Does this mean anything for her scaling and if it does would it be applicable to her Hybrid form or just scale to her self-destruction
Me and Gunshy already had this discussion, don't even start.
 
Well yes, but in this case where the speech bubbles were portrayed to be visually pulled inside the black hole? No, I don't think so. But well as I said, I don't even need to argue about how Yuki could talk to prove that the whole calc is kinda bs. The black hole created too many problems for any calcs besides the black hole creation feat itself to be valid. Town level Black Flashes CONSISTENTLY denting a building wall to doing no collateral damage is already diabolical enough, I don't want the black hole meta to become real.
 
...Y'all I'm losing my mind right now. As someone who was way too present for the months of Tokyo Revengers BS, shitck like this is insane to look back on.
Most of these devils are functionally abilities, not characters. Like, Curse Devil is not getting a page.
Honestly we didn't even really need a Fox Devil page- if we wanted Fox's Paw Strikes to be somewhere in the Verse, we could've just added an Arai key to the Violence fiend's profile.
 
Most of these devils are functionally abilities, not characters. Like, Curse Devil is not getting a page.
Tbh, other verses has pages for their weapons (and some are even exclusively for 1 character only). Contract Devils are weapons anyone can use, for example curse devil's contract is a thing anyone in the verse could use with a price any of them could pay (maybe not old people), and is a thing all public safety has access to. So having profiles like Curse Devil would be quite cool (and doesn't really mess with the chain scaling too).
 
Am I the only person not at all convinced by this theory
  • Their builds are functually identical.
  • Their faces are almost the same, minus Arai's scar and Violence's extra pair of eyes.
  • In the anime intro, every member of Special Division 4 is present at the movie theater except for Violence, but Arai is already there.
  • The Violence Fiend shows up where Arai should've appeared with Himeno and Kobeni in the 11th ending.
  • Arai literally means "New Residence".
 
Nomo can be seen on the ground with his uniform intact in another panel, he likely just took it off in order to tie up his stump.
If its not too much trouble can you send me the panel, im having trouble spotting him
 
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