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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

So if the new chap starts with Pochita blitzing Aging hes gonna scale to sub rel? Since this would also confirm Aging doesn't have a forcefield at all.
 
Okay, this is the 100% absolute-ultimate-final-last recalc, which is for 20% Gun's Crater since the way the trees were measured bugged me. The Gun Devil's crater is now 1,966.196 tons of TNT, or Small Town level...

...Unfortunately I then noticed that this yielded a different result for the length of one bullet than the Gun Devil's Size calc, which would then affect the Gun Devil KE calc, and long story short I think I might've made the Mt. Elbrus Eruption Calc irrelevant, which is sad because I liked that one. (I swear I'm not trying to put my name on every single Chainsaw Man calc.)
  • 20% KE: 49,999.253 tons of TNT (no seriously), or Town level.
  • 100% KE: 249,996.266 tons of TNT, or Large Town level.
  • Initial Mass Shedding Speed KE: 87,077,542.42 tons of TNT, or City level+.
  • Ending Mass Shedding Speed LE: At most 54,858,851.72 tons of TNT, or City level+.
Fun Fact: As the Gun Devil lost at least 37% of its mass in five minutes, it would've killed itself had it kept going for another eight and a half minutes. Unfortunately, that would've also given it more than enough time to storm through densely-packed Europe, meaning its body count would've likely tripled.

Not gonna update the scaling list with these numbers since I really don't like them and would prefer it if they got rejected.


Also here's the inside cover for Volume 19 (compared to the inside cover for Volume 16). This is, what, the 12th time Fumiko's stared directly at the viewer?
 
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Also here's the inside cover for Volume 19 (compared to the inside cover for Volume 16). This is, what, the 12th time Fumiko's stared directly at the viewer?
Only character in the part 2 inside covers to have her eyeballs shown. I swear to god if she's not human I'll end it all.
 
Only character in the part 2 inside covers to have her eyeballs shown. I swear to god if she's not human I'll end it all.
Also she's the only character to show up at a repeat location, being right where Miri was in his cover... meaning Fujimoto might've actually had a valid reason to give Barem's deserved cover to a nobody like Sword Man.
 
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Chainsaw Man still has so many plotpoints. Pochita's past, the Horsemen's past, Denji's past past, Denji's Blood Devil contract, the Prophecy of Nostrodamus, Public Safety & its relationship with the CSM Church, who K-O'd the Gun in USSR, ******* FAMINE DEVIL
 
Chainsaw Man still has so many plotpoints. Pochita's past, the Horsemen's past, Denji's past past, Denji's Blood Devil contract, the Prophecy of Nostrodamus, Public Safety & its relationship with the CSM Church, who K-O'd the Gun in USSR, ******* FAMINE DEVIL
And ppl still think Part 2 is the finale
 
has anyone started on a wip profile for Old Age?
I know we're waiting for the fight or even part 2 to end before any of that is implemented, and Idon't know much about making profiles but we have calcs and basic abilities, right?
 
It'd be fairly simple. Devil Physiology (primal), SHPC, Size Manipulation, Dimensional Travel, Clairvoyance/Cosmic Awareness, Time-Stop, Age Manipulation, Creation, BFR, Power Nullification, sticking its head out that tree somehow.

Then the same basic stats Darkness & Falling will have. Plenty of interdimensional feats.
 
It'd be fairly simple. Devil Physiology (primal), SHPC, Size Manipulation, Dimensional Travel, Clairvoyance/Cosmic Awareness, Time-Stop, Age Manipulation, Creation, BFR, Power Nullification, sticking its head out that tree somehow.

Then the same basic stats Darkness & Falling will have. Plenty of interdimensional feats.
Or, just dont make one until Part 2 is over
 
Or, just dont make one until Part 2 is over
Or until Pochita turns them into chopped liver and we are getting no more feats lol

anyway what to yall think Gun Goddess is doing
just like, chilling while yoru isn't giving any orders? or do you think Old Age just turned it to dust
 
Or, just dont make one until Part 2 is over
The next chapter is December 10th, Winter Break will be over before this arc is...

Or until Pochita turns them into chopped liver and we are getting no more feats lol

anyway what to yall think Gun Goddess is doing
just like, chilling while yoru isn't giving any orders? or do you think Old Age just turned it to dust
Prolly chilling underneath the blanket the US government hastily put over it with like four helicopters and a bit of rope.
 
 
So I thought about Aki and Angel some more, and this is the conclusion I came to for their scaling-
Power Crushes Cucumber: 6.72 kg of TNT
  • Initial Power (Duh)
  • Initial Denji (Fights with Power)
  • Pre-Assault Aki (Suckerpunched Denji)
  • Himeno, Kobeni, etc... (Should be at least comparable to Pre-Assault Aki)
  • Akane Sawatari (Former Devil Hunter)
  • Pingtsi, Long, Cosmo, Tsugihagi (Are fiends)
  • Fiend Beam (Is a fiend)
  • Zombies under Akane (Are basically devils, got wrecked by Post-Training Power)
  • Dolls under Pre-Darknesss Santa (At most, can be killed by Fox Devil's Paw, Beam, and even Cosmo)
  • Pseudo-Chainsaw Men (Same shtick as Zombies and Dolls)
Fox Chomps Restaurant: 55.50 / 339.69 kg of TNT
  • Pre-Assault Aki w/ Fox (Duh)
  • Angel's Physicals (As a full-on Devil in the Special Division he should at least be somewhere around Fox)
  • Post-Assault Aki (Took a punch from the Ghost Devil without dying, albeit it wasn't trying to kill him(?) because of Himeno, performed identically to Angel against Quanxi)
  • Post-Training Power (Can harm Post-Assault Aki and single-handedly take down loads of zombies)
  • Post-Training Denji (Still gets into fights with Power, same scaling goes for Weakened and Current since Fear Scaling shouldn't affect his human form)
  • Human Reze (At least, wrecked Post-Training Denji, later snapped his neck)
  • Masked Violence (At the very least; Reze took him seriously, while she was totally unfazed by Fox biting her, better than Beam who got one-shot)
Hybrid Denji's Durability: 807 kg / 8.04 tons of TNT
  • Devil Form Beam (At least, took a hit from Hybrid Reze meant for Post-Training Hybrid Denji and didn't die, albeit was one-tapped)
  • Weakened Falling's Physicals (Absolute bare minimum, stopped Hybrid Denji with one finger)
Bat Devil's Sonic Attack: 9.14 / 91.14 tons of TNT
  • Aki's Angel Katana (At least, can disarm the Ghost Devil and Hybrid Reze)
  • Angel Devil w/ Typical Weapons (The strongest Division 4 Agent besides Kishibe, typical weapons should be comparable to Aki's Katana, blocked a hit from Quanxi w/ Aki, but was knocked out doing so)
  • Kishibe's Physicals (The strongest agent in Special Division 4, offscreened Post-Training Hybrid Denji, took several hits from casual Quanxi with little damage)
  • Yoshida's Physicals (Held his own and did damage to a casual Quanxi), higher with Octopus
Upscaling: 11 / 100 tons of TNT
  • Whip Woman (Can destroy Public Safety Uniforms)
  • Post Fear-Boost Hybrid Denji (At least, way stronger than Whip Woman)
  • Miri Sugo (Could impale Post Fear-Boost Hybrid Denji, albeit is weaker than him)
"Burn for me, baby!": 13.26 - 42.58 tons of TNT
  • Hybrid Barem (Duh- this calc is only relevant if the low ends are passed, otherwise he just upscales to 100 tons of TNT)
  • This is literally just Barem-tier. He's the only character here.
Mt. Elbrus Eruption Percentage Math: 128.18 kilotons
  • 100% Gun Devil (35.8893/28 * 100 = 128.18 kilotons)
  • Part 1 Pochita (Possibly, given past feats)
  • Spear Man's Spears (Possibly, somehow)
  • Part 2 Pochita (At least, via Fear Scaling)
100% Gun Devil Mass Shedding KE: 15.94 megatons of TNT
  • 100% Gun Devil (Via suicide attack, as just traveling through air at this speed caused at least 37% of its body to shear off in the process, meaning it's unlikely it would survive attacking an opponent this way. Also, the Gun Devil does not fight by ramming)
  • Post-Chainsaw Man Church Yoru w/ Call to Arms (At least, did more damage to Part 2 Pochita than the 100% Gun Devil's speed did to itself)
Gun Goddess's Bullets: 166.47 megatons of TNT
  • Post-Chainsaw Man Church Yoru w/ Gun Goddess (Duh)
  • Part 2 Pochita (Assuming Barem's statement isn't BS)
  • Primal Fears (No explanation needed)
Notable Changes:
  • Post-Training/Assault Denji, Power, and Aki scale to Angel's physicals, Human Reze scales above
  • Kishibe's physicals scale at least above Angel's, possibly to Pre-Training Hybrid Denji
  • Post Fear-Boost Hybrid upscales to 11 / 100 tons, somehow forgot to include that the first time- Hybrid Miri follows
  • Upscaled Whip Woman given Ch. 150
  • Added Weakened Falling
  • Added Barem-tier
  • Devil Form Beam scales higher because (Serious Hybrid Reze > Katana Man's Quick Draw, Pre-Training Denji gets killed by Katana Man's Quick Draw, Devil Form Beam doesn't get killed by Hybrid Reze, therefore Devil Form Beam >Pre-Training Hybrid Denji)
  • Yoru w/ Call to Arms scales above 100% Gun's Mass Shedding KE for reasons
 
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i cannot wait until the Call to Arms is added to yoru's profile and we get to explain to people unfamiliar with csm that she can turn the statue of liberty into a flesh monster to shoot people with fingers the size of cars
 
Kishibe's durability should scale below a casual Quanxi's strength, considering that he took a full on blow and a kick to the head and handled it pretty well, especially compared to people like Yoshida, who got a nosebleed from merely blocking Quanxi's attacks, meaning Kishibe is physically tougher.

Aki shouldn't be scaling to Ghost, as his devil hunter suit primarily absorbed the damage and saved him.

As for Falling, it remains unknown as far as I know. I think that's all my queries for now though.
 
The fact that Pochita ate the AIDS Devil specifically implies that in this world, HIV is a common relatively mild illness, since it can no longer progress.
Imagine of Pochita was in an intense battle and accidentally had blood to blood contact with a devil and got aids, and in rage he ate the AIDS Devil.
 
Kishibe's durability should scale below a casual Quanxi's strength, considering that he took a full on blow and a kick to the head and handled it pretty well, especially compared to people like Yoshida, who got a nosebleed from merely blocking Quanxi's attacks, meaning Kishibe is physically tougher.
So is the 4th Rate / 3rd Rate statement just Kishibe being self-depricating or praising Yoshida? Or is it just that he's bulkier than the twink?
Aki shouldn't be scaling to Ghost, as his devil hunter suit primarily absorbed the damage and saved him.
Post-Assault Aki doesn't scale to Ghost, him taking a hit from Ghost is just support for him scaling higher than before. You cool with him scaling to Angel?
As for Falling, it remains unknown as far as I know. I think that's all my queries for now though.
Didn't she stop Denji with one finger?
Yeah but he also should have erased the star
I thought the "star" was a reference to the Yellow Sign of Hastur/The King in Yellow
 
So is the 4th Rate / 3rd Rate statement just Kishibe being self-depricating or praising Yoshida? Or is it just that he's bulkier than the twink?
The statement still applies, this is just a matter of Kishibe's durability being higher.
Post-Assault Aki doesn't scale to Ghost, him taking a hit from Ghost is just support for him scaling higher than before. You cool with him scaling to Angel?
Ah makes sense, I don't have a problem with him scaling that high, especially since Angel's strength isn't really anything notable, if anything it's equal to Aki's regarding them blocking Quanxi's attack.
Didn't she stop Denji with one finger?
Yeah that's the thing, she's kinda unfathomably superior to Weakened Chainsaw Man, and regarding her presence being near Planet level, her physicals could probably be even stronger than the Gun Devil's, we just don't have any proof.
 
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