- 1,641
- 1,104
Allat to end up being 1.4x weaker than the original calcDone.I blame the original calc for missing that.
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Allat to end up being 1.4x weaker than the original calcDone.I blame the original calc for missing that.
Allat to end up being 1.4x weaker than the original calc
There's that one feat were Barem presumably melts the floor of a building Pochita was standing on at the start of Chapter 88.This changes nothing, the Princi Agenda will proceed. I've updated the AP Scaling- nothing major, just lost a calc.
It might be based on a guesstimate, but does Barem scale to anyone? I wanna say to Reze, but that's more out of vibes than anything concrete.There's that one feat were Barem presumably melts the floor of a building Pochita was standing on at the start of Chapter 88.
Maybe melting something that large might yield something good?
Barem gives off final boss fight type vibes. He was able to react to Graveyard Clone's ripcrods which support the feeling, so the chances of anyone scaling to him is low at best. But, best to see if it yields anything good for future reference.It might be based on a guesstimate, but does Barem scale to anyone? I wanna say to Reze, but that's more out of vibes than anything concrete.
...City Block level, and it scales to BareHIM and only him. At 26.43 - 42.58 tons, he's the 2nd strongest Weapon Human besides Quanxi, to the surprise of absolutely no one. (Spear doesn't count since it's just his spears that are cracked)Barem gives off final boss fight type vibes. He was able to react to Graveyard Clone's ripcrods which support the feeling, so the chances of anyone scaling to him is low at best. But, best to see if it yields anything good for future reference.
No contest to the undisputed GOAT 🗣...City Block level, and it scales to BareHIM and only him. At 26.43 - 42.58 tons, he's the 2nd strongest Weapon Human besides Quanxi, to the surprise of absolutely no one. (Spear doesn't count since it's just his spears that are cracked)
Like, in the story or the thread?I want a summary, what the hell happened?
Me when fujimoto makes the autistic girl and the ADHD boy win over a top tier because they are both mentally r (is peak)Meaning "Asa's autism-fueled hyperfixation on marine biology and Denji's ADHD-powered absurdly specific remembrance of random information" (not my words) is gonna let them thwart a f*cking Primal Fear.
Reze in Chapter 198...City Block level, and it scales to BareHIM and only him.
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A Bomb Girl vs. Flamethrower Man fight would be amazing ngl.Reze in Chapter 198
Looking back at it, I think Blood Devil Power's a glass cannon with durability negation through her blood manipulation, considering that she got hurt by the Mantis Devil (Ch. 91), which Fami-Revived Yuko was able to take without difficulty (Ch. 109), who then got wrecked by Post-Weakening Denji. Either that or Makima made two Devil Hunters sacrifice way more to get more out of their Mantis contracts, meaning Mantis's full power is 8-A, meaning 8-A SPIDER DEVIL BABYYY- ahem.Honestly, below Reze's explosions.
I also think there should be a 100 Tons of TNT sector, for like the characters who obviously power gap 83 Tons of TNT chars, like Graveyard Clone, DEMP Santa and Makima
In Chapter 90, sure, but Ch. 91 then shows Power getting jumped by a bunch of unequipped zombies and coming out of it dragging her bisected torso into an alley with her brain exposed. And the zombies can't be 8-A since Clone-chita gets dog-piled by them and comes out of it just fine, which also means Blood Devil Power can't just be equivalent to Weakened Pochita.I don't believe her durability should be downgraded, as she has the same power source as a Weakened Pochita. Along with the fact that a Majority of the damage the zombies did, were with her own weapons, otherwise, they would bite at her, which would do minimal heck, extremely insufficient damage.
Okay but, Yuko visibly took less damage from Mantis than Power did, meaning either Fami-Revived Yuko is 8-A, meaning Post-Weakening Chainsaw Man is 8-A (impossible), Mantis was using way more power when contracted to Makima-controlled goons, and/or Blood Devil Power's durability isn't as good as her Blood Manipulation's attack potency.For the Mantis Devil ripping straight into her, you can use the fact that she was off guard as she was pretty much getting jumped by a bunch of Makima's troops. It's moreso that the Mantis Devil itself might be a glasscannon.
At least Tier 8(9? idk) physically, 8-A w/Devil PowersOkay but, Yuko visibly took less damage from Mantis than Power did, meaning either Fami-Revived Yuko is 8-A, meaning Post-Weakening Chainsaw Man is 8-A (impossible), Mantis was using way more power when contracted to Makima-controlled goons, and/or Blood Devil Power's durability isn't as good as her Blood Manipulation's attack potency.
Fish Devil and Eternity Devil were powered by Gun Devil flesh.I don't believe her durability should be downgraded, as she has the same power source as a Weakened Pochita.
That's after she was ripped by the Mantis Devil, leaving her open.In Chapter 90, sure, but Ch. 91 then shows Power getting jumped by a bunch of unequipped zombies and coming out of it dragging her bisected torso into an alley with her brain exposed. And the zombies can't be 8-A since Clone-chita gets dog-piled by them and comes out of it just fine, which also means Blood Devil Power can't just be equivalent to Weakened Pochita.
I wouldn't say Yuko took less damage, as Mantis sliced off an entire tendril with a clean cut. But other than that, I see the vision for your scaling, it makes sense for the empowerment to divide itself between her abilities and physical strength, rather than just physical strength for Pochita.Okay but, Yuko visibly took less damage from Mantis than Power did, meaning either Fami-Revived Yuko is 8-A, meaning Post-Weakening Chainsaw Man is 8-A (impossible), Mantis was using way more power when contracted to Makima-controlled goons, and/or Blood Devil Power's durability isn't as good as her Blood Manipulation's attack popotency.
Oh yeah I forgot about that
Initial Yoru's got an (unevaluated) Mach 4.48 feat for lightsaber-spinning the Aquarium Spear vs. Eternity, and considering initial Yoru's not super strong, plus Hybrid Denji fought a Gun Flesh-amped Eternity, anyone who isn't fiend-adjacent would scale.Lowkey the anime kind of kills the calc too since Angel moves his wing before the bullet is fired.
Actually it does scales to Yoru (assuming if somehow something was standing inside the trajectory, it would be hit by that attack) which gives Yoru an extremely conditional attack. Though ofc this is merely the attack speed and ain't reaction speed.Also- Chainsaw Man getting a 84.8c feat that doesn't scale to anyone
You know that scene in Thor Ragnarok where he throws Mjolnir and places his hand behind Loki's head while calling it back?Actually it does scales to Yoru (assuming if somehow something was standing inside the trajectory, it would be hit by that attack) which gives Yoru an extremely conditional attack. Though ofc this is merely the attack speed and ain't reaction speed.
Yep, just like that one.You know that scene in Thor Ragnarok where he throws Mjolnir and places his hand behind Loki's head while calling it back?
Might work with Yoru, just has to know the position of something she can turn into a weapon, place her hand where the enemy is directly in the path or even touching the enemy, and boom
Actually it does scales to Yoru (assuming if somehow something was standing inside the trajectory, it would be hit by that attack) which gives Yoru an extremely conditional attack. Though ofc this is merely the attack speed and ain't reaction speed.
Standard Battle Assumptions: "Yoru's opponent is not standing directly in the path of the shortest distance to the Gulf of Mexico or Mount Elbrus."You know that scene in Thor Ragnarok where he throws Mjolnir and places his hand behind Loki's head while calling it back?
Might work with Yoru, just has to know the position of something she can turn into a weapon, place her hand where the enemy is directly in the path or even touching the enemy, and boom
Now Yoru got a weird and extremely niche wincon, cool! Also since the attack travels extremely fast, we could get some crazy AP scaling out from this (at least it's possible with Gun Devil, just gotta take the 20% version, calc the mass then x5).Standard Battle Assumptions: "Yoru's opponent is not standing directly in the path of the shortest distance to the Gulf of Mexico or Mount Elbrus."
God I love Chainsaw Man logic.
It's actually unusable KE since it's FTL, and the mass would change from a giant devil to a pair of arms somewhere in the path and good luck mathing that.Now Yoru got a weird and extremely niche wincon, cool! Also since the attack travels extremely fast, we could get some crazy AP scaling out from this (at least it's possible with Gun Devil, just gotta take the 20% version, calc the mass then x5).
Aktually it'll be when Yoru touched it first, so eh. And I'm really new with KE calc, if something in the verse goes FTL then shouldn't we just screw theory of relativity over and change the formula? Or can't we? -> I got my answer already.It's actually unusable KE since it's FTL, and the mass would change from a giant devil to a pair of arms somewhere in the path and good luck mathing that.
Tbh, I wouldn't use that calc, rather I'd use the 20% one, then add a multiplier (x5) to it since the Full Gun Devil was shredding itself simply travelling, it makes sense. The 20% one got the best onscreen speed feat in all of fiction, documented by the second, and I calced it to be mach 488.7988 (20%) and with x5 we get an astounding mach 2,443.994. Assuming the distance between gun devil and Makima when it stopped is 1km (it's ability range), and it's pretty clear it costs the Gun Devil 3 seconds to travel that distance.The full Gun Devil's a lot slower- took it five minutes to go Mr. Worldwide, and being conservative assuming its path is largely linear, you get this wiki's Mach 300. If it zigzagged through population centers, it averaged ~Mach 600, before getting diced by the Kazakhstani Devil Hunter even Sukuna feared.
The full Gun Devil would be 5x the mass, not necessarily the speed.Aktually it'll be when Yoru touched it first, so eh. And I'm really new with KE calc, if something in the verse goes FTL then shouldn't we just screw theory of relativity over and change the formula? Or can't we? -> I got my answer already.
Tbh, I wouldn't use that calc, rather I'd use the 20% one, then add a multiplier (x5) to it since the Full Gun Devil was shredding itself simply travelling, it makes sense. The 20% one got the best onscreen speed feat in all of fiction, documented by the second, and I calced it to be mach 488.7988 (20%) and with x5 we get an astounding mach 2,443.994.
I saw the 20% Gun Devil speed feat you're referring to, and the problem with it is that we can't tell for sure how much of the 500km to Makima it crossed before firing at her.Assuming the distance between gun devil and Makima when it stopped is 1km (it's ability range), and it's pretty clear it costs the Gun Devil 3 seconds to travel that distance.
About 166 megatons.Also, do you know what's the final calc for Gun Goddess's AP?
It crossed 23km. However, we don't multiply the speed it creates in stronger forms as it makes K.E inconsistencies.I saw the 20% Gun Devil speed feat you're referring to, and the problem with it is that we can't tell for sure how much of the 500km to Makima it crossed before firing at her.
Yeah, I thought he was referring to this one we don't use which has it cross 498.5 km.It crossed 23km. However, we don't multiply the speed it creates in stronger forms as it makes K.E inconsistencies.
tbh, could be true since Gun Goddess's bullet has proven that the fast one is actually the bullet instead of the devil itself. Anyways, I wanna figure out where the place that Makima was at is, but turned out it's a fictional city (why Fujimotor).It crossed 23km. However, we don't multiply the speed it creates in stronger forms as it makes K.E inconsistencies.