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Criticism isn't a bad thing though. I might suck Fujimoto's dick regularly, but I still keep his balls out of my throat.
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Chainsaw Man discussion thread
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Yeah ofc Criticism ain't a bad thing at all, it's just that people are criticizing based on face value like "damn bro the same shit has happened twice now" without realizing that the situation is different from then. Like the reason how he got back from rock bottom now compare to Part 1 is different, it is different but some people don't understand it, because they be looking at face value to criticize something.
I ain't saying "oh you all must be perfect and have to analyze everything you read deeply", but just saying that people didn't understand my boi Denji yet.
And some are just completely confident in their criticism, which as I already explained, are the result of face value judgements.
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I love that Reze gets a panel while Makima is nowhere to be seen in Denji's flashbacks. It's just, [chef's kiss]
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I wonder if the realm could just be a collective unconscious reality where people's minds go
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So Aging is actually just John Persona? Crazy...
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It's a purgatory for the unenlightened masses who couldn't make the judgement call
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Imagina if next week he barfs Makima....
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I mean technically, Denji might've eaten Nayuta as sushi...
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I think Pochita would have to vomit up the parts of himself he ate first, if we're going by the theory.
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Reread Ch. 87 and, Hybrid Quanxi actually took Pochita's Multi-City Block level kick. (Miri/Sword Man was also there, but she was in front of him so she was basically his meat shield.) She only got decapitated after that.
Unfortunately the person who did the calc made it wrong, as they used 20% steel and 80% concrete instead of 100% reinforced concrete, which tanks the AP level, which also tanks the Lifting Rating of Pochita's jump.
Although I'm not sure why that's an LS thing to begin with, since Pochita never jumps? It looks more like he just drop-kicked them through the buildings, which isn't LS.
Unfortunately the person who did the calc made it wrong, as they used 20% steel and 80% concrete instead of 100% reinforced concrete, which tanks the AP level, which also tanks the Lifting Rating of Pochita's jump.
Although I'm not sure why that's an LS thing to begin with, since Pochita never jumps? It looks more like he just drop-kicked them through the buildings, which isn't LS.
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Yeah, I had mentioned that Quanxi went through the initial 4 buildings completely unharmed, only damaged by Pochita's chainsaw piercing through her and Miri. Quanxi was practically the shield for Miri here so I don't think he would scale to the feat itself. However, I do agree that a recalc is warranted.
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Calced volume * 10 j/cm3 = 341,116,182,000 joules, or 81.5 tons of TNT.
Not a bad feat to have if/when Bat gets downgraded to 9.14 tons.
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Yeah and it's not too shabby either as they both go through the attack completely attached and unfazed (not regarding Pochita's chainsaw). Scaling wise there should there no problem.
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We gave it a possibly rating on his profile.
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Funnily enough, doing the same math to the lowered AP results in ~41 billion kg instead of 200 billion, making it just a hair's breath off from the baseball pitch's 34.5 billion kg
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Alright, I've done a smidge more math in order to make the Fox Devil's calc line up with the rest in terms of using 80% instead of 90% hollowness for buildings, now here is now completely serious, non-satirical take on the scaling:
Critiques are welcome. Also, where the heck do I put Yoshida's physicals?
Power Crushes Cucumber: 6.72 kg of TNT
- Initial Power (Duh)
- Post-Training Power (At least)
- Initial Denji (Fights with Power)
- Post-Training Denji (At least, same goes for Weakened and Current, since Fear Scaling shouldn't affect his human form)
- Aki (Fights with Power)
- Angel (Nearly got wind-diffed by Typhoon lmao)
- Himeno, Kobeni, etc... (Should be comparable to Aki)
- Akane Sawatari (Former Devil Hunter)
- Pingtsi, Long, Cosmo, Tsugihagi (Are fiends)
- Fiend Beam (Is a fiend)
- Zombies under Akane (Are basically devils, got wrecked by Post-Training Power)
- Human Reze (At least, wrecked Post-Training Denji, later snapped his neck)
- Aki w/ Fox (Duh)
- Devil Form Beam (Should be semi-comparable to Fox)
- Masked Violence (At the very least; Reze took him seriously, while she was totally unfazed by Fox biting her, better than Devil Form Beam who got one-shot)
- Initial Hybrid Denji (Duh)
- Himeno's Ghost Arm (Harmed Eternity w/ Gun Flesh, who can hurt Hybrid Denji)
- Post-Weakening Hybrid Denji (Took the feat)
- Princi / Spider Devil (Should be comparable to Cockroach via Fear Scaling, I Will Die On This Hill)
- Post-Training Denji (Blocked it with his chainsaws)
- Post-Training Denji's Piercing Damage (Much higher, bisected Katana Man when he ran into his legsaw, cut off Reze's leg, cut off Daytime Santa's arms)
- Katana Man (Can match Denji, was exhausted in their previous clash when he was weaker)
- Katana Man's Piercing Damage (Much higher, can chop off Post-Training Denji's limbs)
- Ghost Devil (Can hurt Katana Man)
- Aki's Curse Sword (Can hurt Katana Man)
- Aki's Angel Katana (At least, can disarm the Ghost Devil and Hybrid Reze)
- Hybrid Reze's Physicals (At least as strong as Post-Training Hybrid Denji)
- Masked Violence (At most, Reze took him seriously before he bailed)
- Miri Sugo (Shown as comparable to Katana Man at the Graveyard)
- Whip Woman & Spear Man's physicals (Should scale because Katana Man's a loser)
- Yoshida w/ Octopus (At least, can destroy loads of dolls, which can hurt Post-Training Hybrid Denji)
- Daytime Santa (Bonked Post-Training Hybrid Denji, her dolls can hurt him too)
- Kobeni w/ Knife (Can pierce through Public Safety Uniforms, which can withstand Quick Draw's Piercing Damage)
- Akane w/ Snake Devil (One-shot the Ghost Devil)
- Hybrid Reze's Explosions (Blew off Nomo's arm through his uniform, destroyed Denji's chainsaws)
- Unmasked Violence (At least, shredded his uniform just by transforming)
- Kishibe w/ Knives (Contracts described as fearsome by Pingtsi, offscreened Post-Training Hybrid Denji, Knife Devil should be here just by Fear Scaling)
- Human Quanxi (At least, LOL-stomped other Hybrids, caught Kishibe's Knife)
- Princi / Spider Devil (Possibly, should be comparable to the Centipede Devil, which could pierce an amped Pochita's guts-scarf, while Hybrid Reze couldn't scratch regular Pochita's scarf w/ explosions)
- Hybrid Quanxi (Duh)
- Nighttime Santa (Caught and snapped Hybrid Quanxi's arrows, flyswatted Post-Training Hybrid Denji)
- Weakened Pochita (Got a double KO w/ Hybrid Quanxi)
- Makima (Fought and beat Weakened Pochita)
- Blood Devil Power (Harmed Makima)
- Denji w/ Power Saw (Harmed Makima)
- Unmasked Violence (Possibly, only character besides Makima Darkness used the sword against, took more hits from Darkness than Makima did)
- Zombies under Makima (Harmed Blood Devil Power, somehow???)
- Angel w/ Millennium Spear (At least, wrecked Weakened Pochita)
- Prime Kishibe (As Angel is the second strongest agent besides himself, obviously this means Kishibe's peak is above Angel's peak. Little known fact- Pochita killed Makima to save her and the population of Japan from Kishibe, as he was about to low-diff her 126.1 million times)
- Yoru w/ Gun Goddess (Duh)
- Primal Fears (At least)
- Princi / Spider Devil (At least by Fear Scaling, RIGHT HAND OF MAKIMA PRINCI AGENDA LETSGOOOOOO!)
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Somewhere inferior to base Quanxi, I just remembered a few days ago that she had a statement of being stronger than Chainsaw Man
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If Kobeni gets to hit 11 Tons for stabbing Aki then so does Yoshida for giving Quanxi a nosebleed. Speaking of Kobeni, did she really do more damage to the suit than Katana did when he slashed Aki? Aki was OHKO'd by Katana but remained conscious when he was stabbed.
Also, jumping from 81 tons to 166 megatons is so ******* funny lol this verse has a crazy gap from high tiers to god tiers.
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Okay, but where?
Normally I'd agree, but that causes an issue since Yoru is too tough for Yoshida with a friggin' sword, yet gets floored by a kick from Human Quanxi.
There was literally no damage to the black suit, so by default the answer is yes. Katana Man had more force behind the Quick Draw, but Kobeni's knife is just absurdly sharp.
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It was a really sharp sword, to be fair. But really I think it's just Yoshida < Yoru < Quanxi. Yes Quanxi got a nosebleed, but he still got no-diffed in round 1 and low-diffed in round 2— Yoshida even says a direct hit would kill him while Yoru took a direct hit and just felt sore.
Part 2 Fujimoto has a need to give the men hunky frames, and the women wide hips.
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Fujimoto just decided to join the other manga artists and just indulge himself.
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Honestly, below Reze's explosions.
I also think there should be a 100 Tons of TNT sector, for like the characters who obviously power gap 83 Tons of TNT chars, like Graveyard Clone, DEMP Santa and Makima
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