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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

So, "Garden of Eden", or whatever the heck we're calling it, that Aging creates, are we giving it power nullification or nah? Literally the strongest hax rn in the verse.
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So, "Garden of Eden", or whatever the heck we're calling it, that Aging creates, are we giving it power nullification or nah? Literally the strongest hax rn in the verse.

Falling: Domain Expansion! [Miserable Company]

Aging: Domain Expansion. [Stagnant Void]

Darkness: D̷o̵o̵o̶m̷a̶i̸n̵ ̵E̷x̶p̷a̷n̸s̷i̴o̶n̸!̴!̴ [S̸k̸i̴e̸s̶ ̷M̴a̸d̵e̶ ̷S̸t̷r̵a̵n̴g̷e]

[Insert Edit of Uro, Yuta, and Ryu here]
 
Crying, Yoru better do something against Aging cause if not Darkness is gonna be on fraudwatch
 
True. Bleeding is juat his way of saying hi, that's why he started bleeding when he saw Makima.
It bled bc it was bored
He was trying to give Power a buff for later
Crying, Yoru better do something against Aging cause if not Darkness is gonna be on fraudwatch
It's honestly nuts how strong the Primal Fear reputation is.

To think Darkness getting hurt by a mystery attack from the Main Antagonist of Part 1- who beat the previously expected Main Antagonist in three panels- even though he recovered immediately and turned said Main Antagonist into a kebab when she tried it again, is a black stain on his portfolio.

For most shonen, groups of absolute top-dog monsters eventually get power-creeped into irrelevance, but it's been four years since the concept of Primals were introduced, and it's still an Oh Shit moment seeing one do anything.

The next Primal Fear's got a tough act to follow after Aging. I wonder how Fujimoto's gonna keep making them impressive without overexposing the monster.
 
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People be like "oh Makima > Darkness" or "featless fodder, "Yuji's victim", "wall level fodder". Man, reading comprehension devil is something else I tell you.

Like people be seeing the shit Aging pulls and still doesn't believe Primal fears are something else, leave the fact that people still believe people in JJK like Sukuna and Gojo could even begin to compare, people ACTUALLY believe that Pochita is somehow on the level of a freaking primal fear, smh. Like people rn have such short attention span that they couldn't even analyze for shit, they be seeing Barem say how Pochita is now on the level of sickness and stuff and how Pochita cut only 2 of the primal fear's hand (held back bored want to die didn't even use an ability primal fear) and say "Pochita solos" I CAN'T.

Man, Fujimoto is such a man, he KNOWS how to present POWER beyond human comprehension in the most crazy and interesting way ever and he proved it again and again. Like imagine the only thing we see primal fears do is destroying buildings, man that would be such a letdown I tell you.

Also, I'll now start the meta of Aging solos all of JJK (simply because I hate JJK glazers who says shit like high hyper infinite dimensional Gojo, fodders who never fought outside of Japan can't talk shit).
 
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Falling Devil: most DC, Range and immortalities.
Darkness got immortality on him, maybe Aging, if we ever get more info on the humans in the Garden of Eden
Aging Devil: most speed, dura and hax
For now, yea
Falling Devil: most aura, and best entrance.
Typo? you meant darkness?

Also guys, did any of you try to calc Aging's speed in the situation it's not a timestop? Would be interesting to see how fast that actually was if it's not a hax.
 
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Darkness got immortality on him, maybe Aging, if we ever get more info on the humans in the Garden of Eden

For now, yea

Typo? you meant darkness?

Also guys, did any of you try to calc Aging's speed in the situation it's not a timestop? Would be interesting to see how fast that actually was if it's not a hax.
Statuing is (Distance Moved/(0.00275/Projectile Speed in m/s)), Aging just raised its arm so assuming (diameter of 1m * half circle =) Pi meters for convenience and ~4.9% SoL for the Gun Goddess shot, that's 16.78 billion m/s, or 55.78c.

Meaning Aging would scale literally several hundreds of thousands of times faster than the value Darkness scales above (Quanxi).

The fact that the sand the bullet turned into fell to the ground at normal speeds implies that it's just selective timestop though.
 
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Aging should still definitely have Sub-Rel reaction speed for activating whatever abilities to stop the bullet right before it hits
 
I mean, so far Aging has shown time manip( time stop(?) Time acceleration) and the ability to just teleport people to some pocket dimension both while in hell through mirrors or just by pointing at them.
Unless you say Aging needs to touch things to age them/stop them time manip should bypass it. Though the BFR should work since it doesn't appear to travel or have anything in particular to block.
 
But it could be passive
On one hand, the fact that Aging didn't seem to even realize that it was attacked at first lends credence to the idea that it's a passive.
Aging: Sigh... Now what...?

War Devil... [notices the giant bullet in its face] I see... this attack was aimed at me. I can't believe she thought she could kill me with this.
On the other hand, the sand the bullet dissolves to falls at the Earth at normal speeds, meaning it could be a targeted time stop.
 
Still finds it weird that Yoru's attack speed with her weapons are slower than her summoning speed. But without proper evidence i guess that's that
That's also a bonus though, since it the bullet was FTL, then the KE wouldn't be valid.

Not to mention, considering how the Gun Devil's bullets can cross hundreds of kilometers in seconds, the Gun Goddess's bullets being able to cross thousands of kilometers in seconds is a reasonable step-up. Millions of kilometers in seconds (Yoru's summoning speeds) would be a weirdly huge gap.

Which makes my thoughts circle back to just how impressive Aging's been. Like, I know 50% of the discussion in the past couple weeks has been- as some would say, "Sucking Primal Dick"- but seriously.
  • Offer the second most expensive contract in the story of 10,000 infants to children killed in front of mirrors so you can watch.
  • Lower everyone's expectations by intentionally jobbing because you want to die.
  • Be the first Primal to appear on Earth in person, and tell The Devil All Devils Fear™ to eat you because it'd be romantic.
  • Stop the single strongest attack in the story without even paying attention, annihilating the idea that Pochita was the strongest Devil besides Death.
  • "The Main Character's Kurama and the other Main Character's Sukuna should sit their asses down at the kid's table."
  • Copy Yoru's "Bang" just to mock her while time is frozen.
  • Have a Domain Expansion that's so detailed Fujimoto took an extra week for him and his assistants to draw it.
  • Be revealed to be able to yoink humans into your world just by them thinking about making a contract with you.
While Falling gets a pass because she was weakened, Aging's made Goddamn Darkness seem less impressive retroactively. Unless it turns out Fami is actually Starving or something, the next Primal is gonna disappoint some people just because they're gonna have to somshow follow up Aging's act.
 
I'm glad Fujimotor kept the Primal devils mysterious and powerful after all this time and didn't go the High end Nomu and Gigantomachia route from My hero, and make them less and less impactful with each appearences. Could change over time but i have faith in him
 
Darkness is unfortunately really hard to scale because his powers are intentionally kept vague and unexplained, so I think comparing how he stacks to other primals rn is kinda pointless
 
I'm just gonna say Aging just regenerates from the images sent above, or timestop prevents it. And he's currently far slower than Aging, like, a blitz tier slower. So I'd just say that Aging stops time and BFR's.
 
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