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I don't think that's his point trought, he din't say Sonic would die because he can't breath in space.Sonic can breathe in space so blowing up the planet isn’t viable.
Sonic characters have been able to survive falling into the sun since Shuffle.I don't think that's his point trought, he din't say Sonic would die because he can't breath in space.
Is because he can't fly, so when Cell destroy the planet, he would be send flying of to the Sun, or Cell can just blast Sonic into the Sun If he din't... actually nope, since Sonic can teleport and more or less move in space with his dash.
The profile says It was a a star trought, not the Sun.Sonic characters have been able to survive falling into the sun since Shuffle.
According to the Boost page users have Spaceflight, so Sonic wouldn't be helpless in the vacuum of space. Sonic can also withstand the heat of the sunLastly, thought it sounds somewhat lame ... Cell could just ... fly up into the sky and blow up the entire planet they are fighting on. It's lame... but he can do that. He was gonna do it when he was getting stomped by SSJ2 Gohan as P-Cell, the only reason he didn't was because Gohan stopped it. I don't think Sonic would be able to do a similar thing here and stop Cell from doing that. And without the Super transformation Sonic would just be stuck in space until he either gets blasted or pushed into the sun.
which Sonic can and has survivedI don't think that's his point trought, he din't say Sonic would die because he can't breath in space.
Is because he can't fly, so when Cell destroy the planet, he would be send flying of to the Sun
Also he can just......teleport him and Cell back i to a Planet where they can fightor Cell can just blast Sonic into the Sun If he din't... actually nope, since Sonic can teleport and more or less move in space with his dash.
He has via Scalling to Classic SonicSonic doesn’t have boost yet, this is pre-Ultimate Emerl
Yeah I know.which Sonic can and has survived
Yeah I know.Also he can just......teleport him and Cell back i to a Planet where they can fight
Yeah Sonic has chaos control to avoid falling into the sunIs because he can't fly, so when Cell destroy the planet, he would be send flying of to the Sun, or Cell can just blast Sonic into the Sun If he din't... actually nope, since Sonic can teleport and more or less move in space with his dash.
Except he can't fly, so he's pretty much stuck up there.Sonic can breathe in space so blowing up the planet isn’t viable.
There is no magic hands sealing on either Classic or Adventure Sonic's profile, and CC has never shown the ability to seal away higher dimensional beings. Sure, Silver could seal Iblis away with CC, but he isn't exactly capable of threatening any higher dimensions beyond that of earth.Magic hands sealing blocks teleportation and CC can seal to the point even a 6-D cosmology wiper can’t reach.
That's NLFAnd Sonic’s AD let him get millions of times stronger in 5 minutes just cuz.
Great, so now we can techncally backscale every single version of Sonic due to Generations. Why do we even have seperate profiles then?According to the Boost page users have Spaceflight, so Sonic wouldn't be helpless in the vacuum of space. Sonic can also withstand the heat of the sun
Because Sonic can't use Ki or another similar energy projection attack to match Cell's attack and stop the earth from exploding.Also I don't frankly don't see why Sonic couldn't stop Cell from destroying the planet.
Sonic falling into the sun was not the main point about why Cell would win. It's that if Cell blows up the planet, Sonic literally has nothing to run on. All the speed in the world wouldn't matter if you are stuck in space.Yeah Sonic has chaos control to avoid falling into the sun
He gets magic hands in SA2, which is Adventure era. And what I meant by CC is its range it can teleport things to is seemingly outside the range of Solaris, since Blaze teleported herself with CC and yet never showed up in end of the world.There is no magic hands sealing on either Classic or Adventure Sonic's profile, and CC has never shown the ability to seal away higher dimensional beings. Sure, Silver could seal Iblis away with CC, but he isn't exactly capable of threatening any higher dimensions beyond that of earth.
No, it’s on the profiles, he was solar system before fighting UE and immediately matched him after Emerl went ultimate, which is accepted as a solar system to galaxy level jump.That's NLF
Sonic can teleport with Chaos Control.Sonic falling into the sun was not the main point about why Cell would win. It's that if Cell blows up the planet, Sonic literally has nothing to run on. All the speed in the world wouldn't matter if you are stuck in space.
They're not saying they can seal higher dimensional beings (Though they should be able to). He's saying they can seal/bfr people beyond 6D range.There is no magic hands sealing on either Classic or Adventure Sonic's profile, and CC has never shown the ability to seal away higher dimensional beings. Sure, Silver could seal Iblis away with CC, but he isn't exactly capable of threatening any higher dimensions beyond that of earth.
What's NLF about that? That's just what happened in canon? It's on his profile...That's NLF
Sonic in Adventure can already fire wind projectiles that's on his profile. He can also just home attack into any energy projectile that comes his way.Because Sonic can't use Ki or another similar energy projection attack to match Cell's attack and stop the earth from exploding.
Not really a problem thanks to Chaos ControlSonic falling into the sun was not the main point about why Cell would win. It's that if Cell blows up the planet, Sonic literally has nothing to run on. All the speed in the world wouldn't matter if you are stuck in space.
He has the Boost, which gives him free space flightExcept he can't fly, so he's pretty much stuck up there.
"Sealing (With Magic Hands)"There is no magic hands sealing on either Classic or Adventure Sonic's profile
.........CC has 5D range and is smurf in potency, so yeah, it can indeed seal HDE beings up to the range it has, not that it matters here since Cell doesn't have the range to come back from being BFR'd that far, much less with sealing on top of that, and CC has never shown the ability to seal away higher dimensional beings. Sure, Silver could seal Iblis away with CC, but he isn't exactly capable of threatening any higher dimensions beyond that of earth.
No? That is.....literally what happens, also no, NLF cannot be here since no one is saying there is no limit......at least use the falacies correctlyThat's NLF
cause he has way too much to be in a single profile, it is the same reason we separate DB Goku from DBZ Goku, but they are the same character in the end of the day, what the past version has obviously the future version has as well, unless given a reason for why they don't, example, Future Gohan doesn't have an arm while past Gohan hasGreat, so now we can techncally backscale every single version of Sonic due to Generations. Why do we even have seperate profiles then?
Nope, retroactively he went through the events of Gens and Forces since Classic Sonic, who grows to be Adventure Sonic, didIn any case, Adventure Sonic shouldn't have the ability to do the spaceflight boost because this is the adventure era version of Sonic who went through everything normally without having met his future.
No? Classic is just Sonic's true past, so it applies to Adventure era Sonic retroactively so, as in, the timeline changed to be that he always knew it due to Gens + ForcesThe Classic Sonic that is seen on the proflie shouldn't even be part of Adventure Sonic's proflie because THAT version of Sonic is technically a paradox who ended up seeing the events of his future self, and ended up learning things that he otherwise wouldn't have learned till much later.
It is......a basic Boost ability to propel you forward, so Sonic would likely try if put on such a position, not that it matters since Cell's trash travel speed means that he simply can't get enough distance to destroy the Earth before Sonic just decides to use Ring time to transform Cell into ringsAlso, the Spaceflight Boost wasn't used by Sonic until Sonic Lost world, so Adventure Sonic wouldn't even know how to do it.
yes he can, he has projectiles that could collide with Cell's own, like Sonic wind and shockwaves + he can just Kick the blast away physically or use one of his several barriers to absorb the damage to fill the ichiroko gaugeBecause Sonic can't use Ki or another similar energy projection attack to match Cell's attack and stop the earth from exploding.
He can just use Chaos Control to TP Cell and him to another planet.......also Cell simply cannot destroy the planet unless Sonic let's him, which he won't, at worst he uses Avatar to summon several clones to keep Cell ocupied for him to use any of his hax to instantly win, like Ring time, CC, etcSonic falling into the sun was not the main point about why Cell would win. It's that if Cell blows up the planet, Sonic literally has nothing to run on. All the speed in the world wouldn't matter if you are stuck in space.
What stops Sonic from using Chaos Control to teleport to the moon? And the boost would still work in space. Sonic can naturally survive in space like Cell so there's no issue hereSonic falling into the sun was not the main point about why Cell would win. It's that if Cell blows up the planet, Sonic literally has nothing to run on. All the speed in the world wouldn't matter if you are stuck in space.
To be fair, that is listed under his optional equipment tab in his P&A section despite it being listed as standard in his equipment section. Page needs a bit of fixing"Sealing (With Magic Hands)"
It should be standard for Adventure Sonic since he gets it in gameTo be fair, that is listed under his optional equipment tab in his P&A section despite it being listed as standard in his equipment section. Page needs a bit of fixing
Can you make a vote poll for us to see who voted for who in the OP?5 votes for Sonic, 1 vote for Cell
SureCan you make a vote poll for us to see who voted for who in the OP?
same for meIg I'll vote for Sonic if this isn't a stomp
Given the end that can neg Cell's regen is a possibly, it could be restricted and added as-isSo... remove from profiles then?
He gets it from ClassicBut I don’t see Adventure Sonic having regen neg in base?
Classic does.But I don’t see Adventure Sonic having regen neg in base?