CCC Gilgamesh vs dante

[KLOL506]

Thread OP: Dante is 8D for the purposes of this thread

Half the messages here: Dante 9D GG
(This is for all intents and purposes just a joke and me poking harmless fun)

ISTG I can no longer tell if matches are VS Threads or Fun and Games anymore

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

ISTG I can no longer tell if matches are VS Threads or Fun and Games anymore

everything is real

 

[God243]

Don't care much about this thread but Dante resist/ignores almost everything ten crowns does bar subjective reality (and even that if someone starts cooking the Argosax crt)

As for dodging passive shit... Dante has dodged an omnipresent guy while being inside of it and getting bombarded from basically everywhere. Take that however you want.

Layers for DMC hax are around 20 or 25 Idk, I stopped counting after the final fantasy thread.

Pretty sure Dante is massively stronger stats wise compared to fate or other verses in general bar digimon and stuff like cultivators/Chinese stuff in the same tier of course


Also for speed Dante has a big ass scaling chain above immeasurable guys with amps that go from x3 to x10.

That's all.

1) proof that he resist to Ten Crowns EX if he's doing it Ten Crowns EX negates his resistance"Has Ten Crowns EX added, which is noted to be the same ability as BB's Ten Crowns EX, which passively negates attacks and nullify conceptual ability such as BB's Ten Crowns which also remove her hax resistance"and I'm not even counting the 20 resistance layers
2) Ten Crowns EX not work on distance so why you are saying that Dodge a omnipresent guy=ignore passive?
3)Statistics Amplification

 

[inkownn]

Don't care much about this thread but Dante resist/ignores almost everything ten crowns does bar subjective reality (and even that if someone starts cooking the Argosax crt)

As for dodging passive shit... Dante has dodged an omnipresent guy while being inside of it and getting bombarded from basically everywhere. Take that however you want.

Layers for DMC hax are around 20 or 25 Idk, I stopped counting after the final fantasy thread.

Pretty sure Dante is massively stronger stats wise compared to fate or other verses in general bar digimon and stuff like cultivators/Chinese stuff in the same tier of course


Also for speed Dante has a big ass scaling chain above immeasurable guys with amps that go from x3 to x10.

That's all.

Where does it state Dante resists the effects of ten crowns? I don’t believe he has a resistance to any layers of fate or causality manip/neg

you can’t dodge passive, passive is already in effect. For the omnipresence thing, the omnipresent character still has to move, therefore create an action that Dante then dodges. This isn’t the same as passive bc a passive is already effecting as the match starts


Ap doesn’t matter much here as the op downgraded Dante to some level of 8d

 

[Regidian]

Don't care much about this thread but Dante resist/ignores almost everything ten crowns does bar subjective reality (and even that if someone starts cooking the Argosax crt)

As for dodging passive shit... Dante has dodged an omnipresent guy while being inside of it and getting bombarded from basically everywhere. Take that however you want.

Layers for DMC hax are around 20 or 25 Idk, I stopped counting after the final fantasy thread.

Pretty sure Dante is massively stronger stats wise compared to fate or other verses in general bar digimon and stuff like cultivators/Chinese stuff in the same tier of course


Also for speed Dante has a big ass scaling chain above immeasurable guys with amps that go from x3 to x10.

That's all.

Stat wise we have people who scale infinitely above the baseline.

And BB is omnipresent in moon cell and he fight her while she had ten crown too

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Where does it state Dante resists the effects of ten crowns? I don’t believe he has a resistance to any layers of fate or causality manip/neg

you can’t dodge passive, passive is already in effect. For the omnipresence thing, the omnipresent character still has to move, therefore create an action that Dante then dodges. This isn’t the same as passive bc a passive is already effecting as the match starts

Ap doesn’t matter much here as the op downgraded Dante to some level of 8d

Subjective Reality, Conceptual Manipulation & Law Manipulation (Has Ten Crowns EX)

Demons have resistance to concept manip and law manip hence why I said that.


Imagine you are at the bottom of the ocean and you are dodging water so you don't get wet, basically that's what Dante did.

That doesn't mean he loses his scaling chains and all that

Stat wise we have people who scale infinitely above the baseline.

Cool that's the baseline for DMC characters

And BB is omnipresent in moon cell and he fight her while she had ten crown too

Did she do anything like void Mundus did or just some basic ass linear attack?

 

[inkownn]

Subjective Reality, Conceptual Manipulation & Law Manipulation (Has Ten Crowns EX)

Demons have resistance to concept manip and law manip hence why I said that.


Imagine you are at the bottom of the ocean and you are dodging water so you don't get wet, basically that's what Dante did.

That doesn't mean he loses his scaling chains and all that

Hm I see, is there an argument to be made for resisting subjective reality?

That sounds insanely confusing, but even then that’s more like physically attacks, I don’t see how it would apply to a passive that has effects he isn’t resistant to

Yeah but where would his scaling chains start from? Assuming everything 9d in the chains just turns to 8d would be a bit of a stretch

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

That sounds insanely confusing, but even then that’s more like physically attacks, I don’t see how it would apply to a passive that has effects he isn’t resistant to

It isn't just physical attacks.
Dante's enemy is a omnipresent void itself and nexus of all Demon World Energy, which has shit ton of passive haxxes.
Dante didn't got touched at all by void Mundus while fighting inside him.

 

[inkownn]

It isn't just physical attacks.
Dante's enemy is a omnipresent void itself and nexus of all Demon World Energy, which has shit ton of passive haxxes.
Dante didn't got touched at all by void Mundus while fighting inside him.

Sure, that doesnt get past my main point which is that he hasn’t done this with subjective reality

 

[God243]

Subjective Reality, Conceptual Manipulation & Law Manipulation (Has Ten Crowns EX)

Demons have resistance to concept manip and law manip hence why I said that.


Imagine you are at the bottom of the ocean and you are dodging water so you don't get wet, basically that's what Dante did.

That doesn't mean he loses his scaling chains and all that


Cool that's the baseline for DMC characters



Did she do anything like void Mundus did or just some basic ass linear attack?

the Servants also have resistance to law manipulation. in addition to the fact that it has 20 layers of resistance, how dante does to overcome the resistances?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

. in addition to the fact that it has 20 layers of resistance, how dante does to overcome the resistances?

With more layers

 

[God243]

With more layers

The proof of the 20 resistance of Law Manipulation PLS?

 

[Maxeez]

One day we’ll have to actually count layers of resistances and hax in fate cause it’s getting confusing.

 

[inkownn]

I think people reach too hard for layered hax. I am plenty confident fate nor Dmc doesn’t have more than 10 layers of any one hax

 

[Maxeez]

I think people reach too hard for layered hax. I am plenty confident fate nor Dmc doesn’t have more than 10 layers of any one hax

and why is that ?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

The proof of the 20 resistance of Law Manipulation PLS?

bro, i said it sarcastically that is why i used ""

 

[inkownn]

and why is that ?

Bc there’s not much of a guideline on this site about how layered hax should work. I feel that there should be more proof and more evidence needed to prove something is layered besides just “it’s an evolved form”

 

[God243]

It isn't just physical attacks.
Dante's enemy is a omnipresent void itself and nexus of all Demon World Energy, which has shit ton of passive haxxes.
Dante didn't got touched at all by void Mundus while fighting inside him.

can i have some scan that says dante is dodging all this?this can only be a resistence to these

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

I think people reach too hard for layered hax. I am plenty confident fate nor Dmc doesn’t have more than 10 layers of any one hax

Ironic

can i have some scan that says dante is dodging all this?

His profile, DMC2 key instinctive reactions scan.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

can i have some scan that says dante is dodging all this?this can only be a resistence to these

here if you too lazy to click on the profile

 

[Maxeez]

Bc there’s not much of a guideline on this site about how layered hax should work. I feel that there should be more proof and more evidence needed to prove something is layered besides just “it’s an evolved form”

While I agree there should be a detailed explanation about it on the wiki, it’s not that difficult to use and in the nasuverse’s case, it’s pretty easy to understand how it works (at least the basics).

 

[inkownn]

While I agree there should be a detailed explanation about it on the wiki, it’s not that difficult to use and in the nasuverse’s case, it’s pretty easy to understand how it works (at least the basics).

In nasu most of the actual layered hax comes from mystic eyes, other than that I don’t recall anything being past 2-3 layers

 

[Maxeez]

In nasu most of the actual layered hax comes from mystic eyes, other than that I don’t recall anything being past 2-3 layers

You forgot about authorities/divinity.

 

[inkownn]

You forgot about authorities/divinity.

The authorities of the gods maybe, I can agree those have consistent high layering too

 

[Maxeez]

The authorities of the gods maybe, I can agree those have consistent high layering too

problem lies in counting. not to mention the sheer amount of different characters involved.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

they still haven't countered my point about dante using pizza (And Dante like pineapple pizza)

Too busy eating 8D (8 Disgusting slices of pineapple pizza). Dante liking pineapple pizza should increase his charisma by +2 while in Canada and reduce his Charisma by -infinite*infinity while in Italy.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Too busy eating 8D (8 Disgusting slices of pineapple pizza). Dante liking pineapple pizza should increase his charisma by +2 while in Canada and reduce his Charisma by -infinite*infinity while in Italy.

so where is battle take place in that case?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Hm I see, is there an argument to be made for resisting subjective reality?

Ehhh, probably. Depends on what the novel says but for now he only resist 2/3 of what ten crowns does

Yeah but where would his scaling chains start from? Assuming everything 9d in the chains just turns to 8d would be a bit of a stretch

EoG Dante > Fruit Urizen > 1 month of blood Urizen > Urizen (after 1 day of getting constantly pumped with blood by the Qliphoth) > Urizen (some hours getting blood) = DMC 5 prologue Dante > DMC 4 Dante > DMC 2 Dante > Chen > Vol 2 Dante > Void Mundus > Sparda > Sparda DT Dante > Full power Mundus = The Despair Embodied > Sealed Mundus (casually one shots Dante) ~ DT Anime Dante > Anime Dante = Sid/Abigail > DMC 1 Dante > Nelo Angelo > Sealed Argosax existence ******* everything > pluto = DT PoC Dante > Nightmare > Demon world

Demon world is an infinite sized 9D normally 8D realm. Thats pretty much how the scaling goes without getting into much detail.

The important part that makes his ass so high AP wise is DMC5. The blood the Qliphot pumps can turn fodder like Urizen (after being Yamato'd) into an equal opponent for BoG DMC5 Dante and the amps only keep coming to the point that after 24 hours he completely bitch slapped Dante. Then he got the same amp for 1 month after that, then ate the fruit which grants power beyond what the Qliphot could.

 

[Robo432343]

dante has 25 layered hax
gil has 20

 

[Vietthai96]

In nasu most of the actual layered hax comes from mystic eyes, other than that I don’t recall anything being past 2-3 layers

Nasu has Magecraft as Universal Power System, most hax come from that so their layer scale off from potency of their Magecraft, so they have extremely high amount of layer, not counting Divine Authority which is even more busted

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

so where is battle take place in that case?

Probably in a country where food is "meh" I guess?

Also I just love how some peeps are taking a F&G way too seriously, I can almost smell the scaling sweat ugh... (tho not quite as revolting as the smell of questionable toppings on pizza).

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Probably in a country where food is "meh" I guess?

Also I just love how some peeps are taking a F&G way too seriously, I can almost smell the scaling sweat ugh... (tho not quite as revolting as the smell of questionable toppings on pizza).

Pizza is absolutely meh in my country. No cap. Just circular bread with some sprinkling of cheese as if it was salt.

 

[Iiliminal]

simon fra

 

[Robo432343]

goku solos

 

[Robo432343]

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Pizza is absolutely meh in my country. No cap. Just circular bread with some sprinkling of cheese as if it was salt.

F, here varies in certain degrees, it can be regular or be 10/10

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Pizza is absolutely meh in my country. No cap. Just circular bread with some sprinkling of cheese as if it was salt.

My condolences for your country's culinary catastrophe. Pizza that can potentially make devil's cry, may perhaps prove to be a potent weapon tho.

simon fra

goku solos

^Flawless irrefutable arguments that will change the very nature of Vs debating, truly the intelligence on display is thought provoking.

 

[John985]

One day we’ll have to actually count layers of resistances and hax in fate cause it’s getting confusing.

20+ layers is base on the number of profiles we have at that time. Currently the number of profiles in the wiki are in 62-69, you can think that the layers are on that lvl.

 

[Robo432343]

are you sure thats how layers work

 

[John985]

The layers is base on the pantheon and they’re ranking on that pantheon.