Cavendish/Hakuba vs Bartholomew Kuma

[Nierre]

Hakuba vs Kuma​

• In character
• Speed equalized
• Low 7-B versions used
• Fight takes place in Corrida Coliseum
• Win via KO, Incapacitation, Killing

The Pirate Prince:
The Tyrant: @Kachon123, @Eminiteable, @Popted2, @MonkeyOfLife, @KingTempest, @SnookB, @Nierre
Inconclusive:

 

[Nierre]

if the speed is too much for Hakuba to deal with, then I'll equalize.

 

[Kachon123]

Kuma outspeeds, then BFR Cavendish

 

[Eminiteable]

Kuma reflects everything he sends tbh then just bfr's him

 

[Nierre]

Hmm Okay I'll speed equalize.. although I assume the votes won't change..

 

[Kachon123]

Keeping my vote

 

[Eminiteable]

Yeah keeping my for vote Kuma via attack reflection + BFR

 

[Magmag]

lowkey a stomp (imo)
cavendish doesn't really have anything but skill which is not insanely above kuma, and with kumas high IQ nothing will probs work.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

The Pirate Prince: @Kachon123, @Eminiteable
The Tyrant:
Inconclusive:

Wrong character... They voted for The Tyrant

 

[Nierre]

Thanks, corrected

 

[Popted2]

Kuma FRA

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Kuma fra

 

[KingTempest]

Kuma FRA

 

[SnookB]

Kuma slaps Cavendish back to Bourgeois Kingdom

Voting bear man

 

[Nierre]

ill vote for him as well

and that's grace

 

[Magmag]

so like this aint a stomp...

 

[Nierre]

I dont think so.

A weakened Zoro was able to react and dodge to Kuma and even attack him, although inferior. And Hakuba scales higher than he does

 

[Magmag]

I dont think so.

A weakened Zoro was able to react and dodge to Kuma and even attack him, although inferior. And Hakuba scales higher than he does

what are cavendish's wincons, like none basically.
kuma was toying with zoro also the speed is equalized so...

 

[Nierre]

His speed (and his reactions) massively upscale from the calc that he gets his rating from (.46c and .59c) - which should put him about under 2 times slower than Kuma's Beams and attack speed, while I'm not saying that Hakuba should be equal to Kuma in speed, based on the ratings and massive upscaling, he should be really close to Kuma's speed.

 

[Magmag]

you equalized speed tho...but with kuma having the slight speed advantage with ur reasoning, thats an even bigger stomp...more reason as to why kuma stomps.

 

[Nierre]

Also his weapon, Durandal, has the durability to tank Kuma's Light Beams.

you equalized speed tho...but with kuma having the slight speed advantage with ur reasoning, thats an even bigger stomp...more reason as to why kuma stomps.

Reactions don't get equalized

and neither can his beams iirc

 

[Magmag]

Also his weapon, Durandal, has the durability to tank Kuma's Light Beams.

that paw aint helping tho, if cavendish gets in range, which he needs to do as a swordsman, hes getting swiped.

Reactions don't get equalized

so kuma got the reaction advantage...

 

[Nierre]

that paw aint helping tho, if cavendish gets in range, which he needs to do as a swordsman, hes getting swiped.

I'm not arguing against the paw, I wouldn't have voted Kuma if he could deflect the paws, I'm just referring to Kuma's Lasers. Also if Hakuba attacks Kuma's paw he's not going to automatically just get BFR'd it'll just be enough to knock him back, which will be enough for Hakuba to understand not to attack his paws, but instead his body or arms, or legs, or head etc etc.

so kuma got the reaction advantage...

Kuma's reactions are equal to his speed, look at his profile

 

[KingTempest]

Bruh

 

[Magmag]

Bruh

bruh

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Personally don't see it as a stomp... More of a low dif... Just because no one has brought up a wincon doesn't mean it's a stomp

Cavandish definitely has the skills to damage Kuma similar to pre timeskip zoro but at the end Kuma will win easily

 

[Nierre]

Agreed

 

[Magmag]

I'm not arguing against the paw, I wouldn't have voted Kuma if he could deflect the paws, I'm just referring to Kuma's Lasers. Also if Hakuba attacks Kuma's paw he's not going to automatically just get BFR'd it'll just be enough to knock him back, which will be enough for Hakuba to understand not to attack his paws, but instead his body or arms, or legs, or head etc etc.

That knock back aint just leaving a bruise, my man cavendish is gonna get yeeted left and right, up and down, any direction.

Kuma's reactions are equal to his speed, look at his profile

aren't his reactions not SoL/FTL

 

[Nierre]

aren't his reactions not SoL/FTL

I don't think we use Possibly. Regardless I'm using his Relativistic+ speed, which includes his reaction speed. The only speed that isn't equalized is his travel speed, and laser beams.

Also I could be wrong, but don't the laser beams take charge up/start up time? That should be more than enough time for Hakuba to react accordingly.

That knock back aint just leaving a bruise

Cool, no one said it'd just leave a bruise.

my man cavendish is gonna get yeeted left and right, up and down, any direction.

Cool, so do you vote for Kuma?

 

[Magmag]

Personally don't see it as a stomp... More of a low dif... Just because no one has brought up a wincon doesn't mean it's a stomp

Cavandish definitely has the skills to damage Kuma similar to pre timeskip zoro but at the end Kuma will win easily

you do know a stomp isn't a 100 to 0 fight.
"...these matches are heavily one-sided and provide little to no challenge or danger for the winning character."
so saying he wins easily is of little challenge.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

aren't his reactions not SoL/FTL

The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.

 

[Magmag]

I don't think we use Possibly. Regardless I'm using his Relativistic+ speed, which includes his reaction speed. The only speed that isn't equalized is his travel speed, and laser beams.

Also I could be wrong, but don't the laser beams take charge up/start up time? That should be more than enough time for Hakuba to react accordingly.

Cool, no one said it'd just leave a bruise.

Cool, so do you vote for Kuma?

no lol

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

you do know a stomp isn't a 100 to 0 fight.
"...these matches are heavily one-sided and provide little to no challenge or danger for the winning character."
so saying he wins easily is of little challenge.

No.

 

[Magmag]

The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.

so everything is equal, op was saying something else...

 

[Magmag]

No.

sorry monkey but yes.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

so everything is equal, op was saying something else...

Bro? Everything but the combat speed gets equalized every other speed get reduced with the same multiplier the combat speed got downgraded to

 

[Nierre]

so everything is equal, op was saying something else...

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

sorry monkey but yes.

No... You are literally saying that even if they can damage someone it's a stomp... If that's the case every match is a stomp just because they didn't win or didn't have a stated wincon

 

[Magmag]

Bro? Everything but the combat speed gets equalized every other speed get reduced with the same multiplier the combat speed got downgraded to

Bro? u literally said...

The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.

 

[Magmag]

No... You are literally saying that even if they can damage someone it's a stomp... If that's the case every match is a stomp just because they didn't win or didn't have a stated wincon

a matchup that isn't a stomp is a fair share of wincons for both sides...i dont make up the definitions...you can look them up on vsbw.