Arlong vs Soldier Boy

[TheRustyOne]

One Piece vs The Boys?

Arlong's AP/Dura: 113.73 Tons of TNT

Soldier Boy's AP/Dura: 289.30 Tons of TNT

Speed is Equalized.

Starting Distance = 10 meters

Who wins?

Arlong: Nierre, MintyBoi1, TegamiBachi25, FuriousFieryFist, Lloydblitzed, Lloydblitzed, (6)

Soldier Boy: (0)

Inconclusive: (0)

 

[Homie890]

interesting

 

[Just_Butchering]

Is there a connection between the two or just because? Lol

 

[Homie890]

uh,what is the ap difference?

 

[TheRustyOne]

Is there a connection between the two or just because? Lol

Just because, matches aren't always thematic. I just do what I find interesting.

uh,what is the ap difference?

What they scale to is listed in the OP in bold.

 

[Homie890]

What they scale to is listed in the OP in bold.

k,but like,is it like, an 2x ap diference,or it is higher?
(im stupid as shit in mathematics

 

[AThe1412]

k,but like,is it like, an 2x ap diference,or it is higher?
(im stupid as shit in mathematics

Bro, just take the higher value and divide it with the lower one.
289.30/113.73 = 2.5437
Some kid in elementary school can do it!

 

[Kachon123]

What's the location? If it's near water, some of Arlong's attacks become 2x stronger, making him capable of closing the AP gap.

 

[AThe1412]

What's the location? If it's near water, some of Arlong's attacks become 2x stronger, making him capable of closing the AP gap.

Central Park by SBA. There are a few large bodies of water.

 

[Homie890]

Bro, just take the higher value and divide it with the lower one.
289.30/113.73 = 2.5437
Some kid in elementary school can do it!

oh,so its a 2.54x ap gap,i thought it was gonna be higher,thanks.

 

[Just_Butchering]

How skilled is Arlong? Because I think at the end it comes down to that. Neither has powers that give the other any crazy advantage, as even in water Arlong is still sightly (1.27 times) weaker than Soldier Boy.
So I think it truly comes down to combat skills and versatility.

 

[Kachon123]

Well Arlong has much, much higher LS which he uses often in combat

 

[Kidkinsey]

Soilder boy is gonna say the most racist things possible in this match

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

If this was Dean, he might have chance, but if it's soldier boy... He'd lose.

Not a serious argument

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Soilder boy is gonna say the most racist things possible in this match

My goat for a reason

 

[Homie890]

If this was Dean, he might have chance, but if it's soldier boy... He'd lose.

Not a serious argument

Dean?
dean winchester?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Dean?
dean winchester?

Yep

 

[Nierre]

following

 

[Robo432343]

the deep vs arlong

 

[FuriousFieryFist]

What's Arlong's radiation and heat resistance like?

 

[TheRustyOne]

Zero

 

[FuriousFieryFist]

Ok, so either Arlong get a grab off and pops Soldier Boy or Soldier Boy gets a blast off and cooks Arlong. I guess it comes down to who is more skilled in battle since either is an instant wincon. I see this being slightly in favor of Arlong since if they are equal in fighting skills grabbing is gonna be way easier than Soldier Boy getting off his radiation beam which takes time to charge and isn't something he can do without considerable effort. Still if Arlong doesn't crush him fast enough Soldier Boy could go nuclear like he did at the end of season 3 and acquire the win. For now I'm leaning towards Arlong but I'll leave it to more knowledgeable members to explain their skills.

 

[Nierre]

how tall is arlong?

 

[Kachon123]

how tall is arlong?

2.63 meters (8'7)

 

[Nierre]

Soldier Boy would know best not to fight someone so massive in close range, so I think he'd prolly go for his explosions. But as Furious said it takes a while for him to charge up, but I also doubt Arlong is going to attack him seeing him charge up something massive, because there's a chance Soldier Boy'll just detonate on impact. Don't think Arlong is dumb enough to risk that.

I think this could go either way honestly.

 

[Kachon123]

Soldier Boy would know best not to fight someone so massive in close range, so I think he'd prolly go for his explosions. But as Furious said it takes a while for him to charge up, but I also doubt Arlong is going to attack him seeing him charge up something massive, because there's a chance Soldier Boy'll just detonate on impact. Don't think Arlong is dumb enough to risk that.

Arlong has long-ranged piercing water projectiles. I don't think he's dumb enough to just stand there and let him charge a massive attack.

 

[Nierre]

Arlong has long-ranged piercing water projectiles. I don't think he's dumb enough to just stand there and let him charge a massive attack.

Soldier Boy has a shield

 

[Kachon123]

Soldier Boy has a shield

How would he hit Arlong if he's covering himself with a shield?

 

[Nierre]

How would he hit Arlong if he's covering himself with a shield?

He doesn't have to hit Arlong while he's covering himself.

He can charge it while he's holding the shield, drop the shield and explode.

 

[Kachon123]

He doesn't have to hit Arlong while he's covering himself.

He can charge it while he's holding the shield, drop the shield and explode.

I mean sure, but seeing how small the shield is, I really doubt that Soldier Boy would be able to both deflect Arlong's near-danmanku while also charging an attack.

 

[Kachon123]

I mean sure, but seeing how small the shield is, I really doubt that Soldier Boy would be able to both deflect Arlong's near-danmanku while also charging an attack.

His weakness on his profile even says that he can't move much while charging

It takes time for Soldier Boy to build up sufficient energy to fire his radiation-infused energy discharges and he can barely move without interrupting his charges

There's nothing that really suggests that Soldier Boy would be able to land a radiation blast before Arlong can either attack him from afar first or get close and shred him with his greater LS and weaponized teeth

 

[Nierre]

I mean sure, but seeing how small the shield is, I really doubt that Soldier Boy would be able to both deflect Arlong's near-danmanku while also charging an attack.

Unless the bullets are surrounding him, I don't see why it'd be a problem?

Also can i see the scans of "near-danmaku"? I don't remember Arlong using them against Luffy

 

[Nierre]

His weakness on his profile even says that he can't move much while charging

That was never my point though? Unless Arlong is running away I don't see how he could avoid the explosion.

He can still block attacks while charging his blast.

There's nothing that really suggests that Soldier Boy would be able to land a radiation blast before Arlong can either attack him from afar first or get close and shred him with his greater LS and weaponized teeth

Yes there is, because unless you're saying Arlong is dumb enough to attack a bomb that could be set off at any point as far as he's aware, Arlong isn't going to get up and personal while he's charging it

 

[Kachon123]

Unless the bullets are surrounding him, I don't see why it'd be a problem?

Because he's not covering his entire body at once? It's covers at most his torso. His lower body and head can still get hit.

Also can i see the scans of "near-danmaku"? I don't remember Arlong using them against Luffy

He used them on Sanji. It's the same technique Hody used on Luffy which he can spam if needed.

That was never my point though? Unless Arlong is running away I don't see how he could avoid the explosion.

The starting range is only 10 meters. Unless Soldier Boy has no level of intelligence, he'd gain more distance between them before starting to use his explosions. While he's backing up, Arlong would simply just attack using his water projectiles.

Regardless, Soldier Boy's range is only tens of meters. Arlong can easily avoid something like that by either jumping in the water and attacking from there or simply jumping back. Speed is equalize so he would have no trouble avoiding an attack coming from that far away.

Yes there is, because unless you're saying Arlong is dumb enough to attack a bomb that could be set off at any point as far as he's aware, Arlong isn't going to get up and personal while he's charging it

My point is that Arlong would rush Soldier Boy before he is even able to use his radiation attacks. Again, the starting range is only ten meters. No one is dumb enough to use an attack that takes a while to charge from that range. Arlong is more likely to rush him off the jump than Soldier Boy is to immediately gain the range necessary for using his attacks to be a smart idea.

 

[Nierre]

Because he's not covering his entire body at once? It's covers at most his torso. His lower body and head can still get hit.

He can cover his body and his head

He used them on Sanji.

This is so easily blockable with his shield, what? He also is already 2x more durable without his shield, he'll be fine.

The starting range is only 10 meters. Unless Soldier Boy has no level of intelligence, he'd gain more distance between them before starting to use his explosions. While he's backing up, Arlong would simply just attack using his water projectiles.

He can run away and block you do know that right? He also doesn't need to run that far either, his charge varies from like 6 seconds to minutes

My point is that Arlong would rush Soldier Boy before he is even able to use his radiation attacks. Again, the starting range is only ten meters. No one is dumb enough to use an attack that takes a while to charge from that range. Arlong is more likely to rush him off the jump than Soldier Boy is to immediately gain the range necessary for using his attacks to be a smart idea.

He doesn't need to run 10 or more meters for the "necessary" range. He can charge it right then and there, WHILE blocking. I'm not denying Arlong is likely to rush him, but I don't see why he would when he sees Soldier Boy is going to blow up

 

[Kachon123]

He can cover his body and his head

Why are we comparing a thin beam to several splashes of water each powerful enough to oneshot someone who's only 1/2 the strength of Soldier Boy?

This is so easily blockable with his shield, what? He also is already 2x more durable without his shield, he'll be fine.

Less than that. Arlong scales much higher than his value.

He can run away and block you do know that right? He also doesn't need to run that far either, his charge varies from like 6 seconds to minutes

And Arlong would follow? Are you really taking the stance of the fight starting and Solider Boy immediately opting to running away to charge his attack? It's much more realistic for Arlong to be able to hit him before Soldier Boy is in the right conditions to be able to fire an attack. Him being able to land it at all is questionable as well, so that being his main wincon is shaky at best.

He doesn't need to run 10 or more meters for the "necessary" range. He can charge it right then and there, WHILE blocking. I'm not denying Arlong is likely to rush him, but I don't see why he would when he sees Soldier Boy is going to blow up

There's no reason to assume that Soldier Boy would immediately turtle to charge an attack. In my opinion it's much more likely for Arlong to use the water to his advantage to amp his speed and instantly close the distance and impale Soldier Boy with his nose or land his Uchimizu barrage.

 

[Nierre]

Why are we comparing a thin beam to several splashes of water each powerful enough to oneshot someone who's only 1/2 the strength of Soldier Boy?

Because the range of said water droplets is not covering, let alone going beyond, a circumference of a shield that can cover a torso and a head?

And Arlong would follow? Are you really taking the stance of the fight starting and Solider Boy immediately opting to running away to charge his attack? It's much more realistic for Arlong to be able to hit him before Soldier Boy is in the right conditions to be able to fire an attack. Him being able to land it at all is questionable as well, so that being his main wincon is shaky at best.

I never said that Soldier Boy would run, YOU said that. I said he didn't need to, but he's fully able to if he feels threatened.

My argument is why would Arlong not run away rather than pressure Soldier Boy, knowing that he's charging something big.

For all Arlong knows, Soldier Boy can explode at any point, or if he takes damage. Why would Arlong risk doing that when he can instead run away? But if you're arguing that Arlong wouldn't runaway when he sees that, then how could Arlong win in close range?

There are no "right conditions" Soldier Boy can charge his explosion anytime he wants, he doesn't need range to do it.

There's no reason to assume that Soldier Boy would immediately turtle to charge an attack. In my opinion it's much more likely for Arlong to use the water to his advantage to amp his speed and instantly close the distance and impale Soldier Boy with his nose or land his Uchimizu barrage.

And why not..? He sees an 8 foot monster (and for all he knows is stronger than him due to his physique and stature), and you're saying that he wouldn't opt to defending and instantly charging up his explosion? Once again, his explosion takes only a couple seconds at best to charge, so unless Arlong is running away, which you apparently aren't claiming he would, Arlong would take fatal damage from the attack.

 

[Nierre]

Anyway here's my analysis:

Soldier Boy sees Arlong and will know that CqC/H2H isn't his best bet, Arlong has far better reach and is just way bigger. So instead he'll go for exploding. Arlong, seeing him charge his attack, will either:

A) Apply pressure with water bullets (which Soldier Boy can block with his shield, or even just take the attack, as it's still weaker than his own durability at worst)

B) Apply pressure in close range (I think this is the least likely, because anyone knows that running up to someone who looks like they're about to ******* explode is not a good idea, however, if he can reach Soldier Boy before he explodes, then he'll most likely win. He can just grab Soldier Boy and his shield n crush him. This is a wincon for Arlong, but I still think this is the least likely just due to Arlong seeing Soldier Boy charging)

C) Run/Swim away (Also possible, there's nothing stopping Arlong from running away. If he gets out of the range successfully he can then attack and pressure Soldier Boy before he explodes again)

Arlong has more solid wincons given how he's not restricted by any means in this match and isn't a one trick pony, so I think I'll vote for him FRA

 

[Homie890]

man,arlong wincon is kinda fishy,don't know why i think that though.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

man,arlong wincon is kinda fishy,don't know why i think that though.