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Castlevania vs Devil May Cry - Netflix Edition

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Yep, this was gonna be talked about. Might as well get it looked at lol
  • Speed is equalised
  • Both are 9-A (Tier 8 is restricted but could be changed I guess)
  • Both have prior knowledge
  • Fight takes place in this stage
  • SBA otherwise
Trevor ***ing Belmont: 0

El Donte: 1

They eat pizza and drink beer: 0

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Trevor Belmont (Castlevania - Netflix)

Trevor Belmont is the last surviving member of the Belmont clan, a family who dedicated their lives to fight creatures of darkness commanded by Dracula and protect mankind. However, rumors spread that the Belmont clan practiced black magic attracting evil to them, causing the family to be exiled...
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Dante (Netflix DMC)

Dante is the protagonist of the Netflix adaptation of the hit series, Devil May Cry. Troubled with a dark past, his mother was killed and his brother was thought to be killed, Dante started hunting Demons to earn money, unknown to him that he himself had Demon blood running through his veins, as...
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Dante is 0.07 Tons

Trevor is 0.017 Tons

~4.2 times AP advantage

Correct me if I am wrong, but did Alucard not immediately explode from the Whip because of the AP difference or because he was half-vampire? Assuming it works on Dante, not sure if it would considering the Demons in DMC are more biological and science based
 
Drite77 said:
Dante is 0.07 Tons

Trevor is 0.017 Tons

~4.2 times AP advantage

Correct me if I am wrong, but did Alucard not immediately explode from the Whip because of the AP difference or because he was half-vampire? Assuming it works on Dante, not sure if it would considering the Demons in DMC are more biological and science based
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I thought the whip was High 8-C?
 
I'll wait until someone answers me on the Vampire Killer relating to Dante's demon heritage as, once again, it is mainly science instead of magical/holy so I don't know if it would affect Dante
 
Drite77 said:
Dante is 0.07 Tons

Trevor is 0.017 Tons

~4.2 times AP advantage

Correct me if I am wrong, but did Alucard not immediately explode from the Whip because of the AP difference or because he was half-vampire? Assuming it works on Dante, not sure if it would considering the Demons in DMC are more biological and science based
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Well we have Alucard as High 8-C, during their fight Trevor only had the leather whip iirc (Which is 9-A last I checked). I'd wanna say the former but Drac tanked the morningstar later iirc, my guess is just cause the two vampires are layered in their resists hence they don't instantly get blown up like normal monsters. I wasn't sure about the dura neg hence I gave them both prior knowledge so Dante knows to avoid it regardless. On the topic of monsters in CV Devil Forgemasters last I checked use magic sure but didn't they have like factories in Nocturne to mass produce them?
 
Stillwinston said:
Well we have Alucard as High 8-C, during their fight Trevor only had the leather whip iirc. I'd wanna say the former but Drac tanked the morningstar later iirc, my guess is just cause the two vampires are layered in their resists hence they don't instantly get blown up like normal monsters. I wasn't sure about the dura neg hence I gave them both prior knowledge so Dante knows to avoid it.
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Well, Trevor also had a sword that cut Alucard, and I do remember Drac tanking the Morningstar so it might not be exactly phisiology based.

There is also the angle that it wouldn't work on Dante I guess
 
Drite77 said:
Well, Trevor also had a sword that cut Alucard, and I do remember Drac tanking the Morningstar so it might not be exactly phisiology based.

There is also the angle that it wouldn't work on Dante I guess
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The sword did cut yeah but in the entire fight Alucard was mostly testing Trevor iirc, hence he wasn't going all out and he just like casually regen'd from it after.
 
I'll be honest, without the Dura Neg I don't think Trevor has a chance, so while I do think it has an argument where it wouldn't, there are also convincing arguments it would work regardless so I'll base my opinion with that in mind

Skillwise they shouldn't be far off each other, and I give the edge of overall skill to Dante but the experience would def go to Trevor, it has been a while since I've watched the first Castlevania so enlightening me about it would be neat about his skill feats, though even if Trevor was more skilled then Dante I don't think it would make up that much for the AP difference.

Watching over his battle against Alucard, it really wasn't hard for Alucard to just take out the whip from Trevor, considering Dante has a higher LS then both of them, he could likely do the same and take out the whip out of the fight, of course, Trevor realistically only need to hit Dante once with it, but since they both have prior knowledge on each other, Dante would likely be more wary of the whip since he would know it can kill him in one shot, like how he was made aware of the poisonous blade by Lady on the 7th episode.

If the whip is taken out, Dante can likely win against Trevor, between comparable skill feats, better long ranged weapons (which would rarely matter as Dante likes to get close and personal), a significant AP advantage and a much higher LS which would mean clashing swords with Dante wouldn't exactly be ideal to Trevor. Of course, knowing the Vampire Killer is his best bet on winning against Dante, there is always the chance Trevor would go for it once it is in the ground, but I don't think it is that easy considering Dante wouldn't really allow him to get that much distance from him. I also believe Dante's better Acrobatics would help him to dodge the whip attacks before he gets hit by it.

Honestly, if Alucard didn't disarmed Trevor that easily I would be inclined to say he would hit Dante before he could do it, but given how easy it was I'm inclined to say Dante can do it as well and then finish it off in CQC with his superior physical stats and comparable skill

Voting Dante for now, and now I sleep
 
Alucard out statted Trevor far more than Dante does and he still kept up with his skill and caught him off guard, so Dante having the AP advantage means nothing. Also it being biological or spiritual based means nothing when the whip exploded Night creatures, which are literally mutated human corpses. Thats not too different from how demons in the Netflix show works and Dante isn’t immune to anti demonic stuff so the whip would affect him. Also the stat gap is 0.037 vs 0.07, so it’s at best barely a 2X gap.

Pulling the whip out of Trevor’s hand doesn’t mean much when Trevor still adapted and got the upper hand at the end of the fight. Plus again Dante would have to deal with the weapon burning his body or exploding him, given how one anti demonic shot to the leg was enough for Lady to throw Dante into a cage without him fighting off much, I don’t see how Dante would handle the whip in question.

Again AP means nothing when Trevor kept up with Alucard who’s High 8-C, and Dante doesn’t have Alucard’s serious mentality so he’d be tricked easier.

I’m leaning towards Trevor here. Any advantage Dante might have, Trevor has dealt with worse.
 
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He literally got his knife stuck in Alucard’s gut when he least suspected, and Alucard isn’t as cocky with his attitude as with Dante, plus the AP advantage isn’t as major as normal
 
Theglassman12 said:
He literally got his knife stuck in Alucard’s gut when he least suspected, and Alucard isn’t as cocky with his attitude as with Dante, plus the AP advantage isn’t as major as normal
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If Dante knows he will die from a single hit of the whip, I don't see why he would disregard it that much. The AP advantage isn't as big when compared to Alucard, but the LS is, besides, I was told Alucard wasn't exactly taking the fight seriously and was just testing Trevor. Dante can take things seriously, if he knows he will die from a single hit he won't act that cocky
 
He didn’t know much on the anti demonic bullet and it messed him up bad, the whip would literally explode his entire body when he gets hit and he got incapacitated from his face being blown in half so what’s to say any hit from the whip wouldn’t incapacitate him more?
 
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He didn’t know much on the anti demonic bullet and it messed him up bad, the whip would literally explode his entire body when he gets hit and he got incapacitated from his face being blown in half so what’s to say any hit from the whip wouldn’t incapacitate him more?
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I think I mentioned the whip would kill Dante if it touched him, I just believe that, if Dante knows about the whip, he would try to disarm it like Alucard did
 
Dante wouldn’t know it’s effective against demonic creatures, the only way he’d tell is if it hit him, which by then half of his body would explode from the inside out. Plus again Trevor can deal with not having a whip as he can adapt to the situation and the stat gap is barely 2X for this fight so it’s not going to be leaning towards Dante’s favor much.
 
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Dante wouldn’t know it’s effective against demonic creatures, the only way he’d tell is if it hit him, which by then half of his body would explode from the inside out. Plus again Trevor can deal with not having a whip as he can adapt to the situation and the stat gap is barely 2X for this fight so it’s not going to be leaning towards Dante’s favor much.
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Both have prior knowledge, and the stat gap is over 4x
 
I'm not sure about this one lowkey. Neutral with leaning towards Dante from the discussion I seen soo far.

The stats is indeed clearly in Dante's advantage here alongside the initial knowledge he would have regarding the whip but it is kinda hard to assume if he can dodge the whip on his own?

Frankly, both are pretty great in terms of skill soo I honestly think it can go either way but most of the time, I think Dante can handle it.
 
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@Drite77 Trevor scales to 0.037 tons and Dante is 0.07 tons, it's not over 4 times, it's barely 2 times. Even with prior knowledge Dante doesn't have the skills that Trevor in the show has.
 
Did you read the verse page? Because we have this feat here that Trevor scales to. Not skilled to what Trevor has shown. Dante loses his weapons and doesn't adapt on the fly when someone is comparable to him. He had no sword against Agni and Rudra and both bodied him to the point he needed Devil Trigger to beat either of them. Same against White Rabbit where he lost his sword and it he didn't really do anything like Trevor did in both season 1 and 2 where he fought enemies without a whip or a weapon and can improvise.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Did you read the verse page? Because we have this feat here that Trevor scales to.
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If he is supposed to scale, the verse page and Trevor's profile both do a poor job at explaining it. In no moment in the calc it says it scales to Travor, and in Trevor's profile there is no mention of he scaling to Sypha, his AP session starts with "Can fight people who can harm him" and lists a bunch of feats that do not correlate to Sypha's and, of course, the lack of statistic vallues.

Profiles are supposed to be made where people who haven't comsumed the series can understand it, if a person goes to read Trevor's profile, no one is going to say he scales to Sypha, they are going to say he scales to his Durabilitiy, because that's the only thing there that gives him a rating, there is nothing else there

Edit: I'll also point out that, if Trevor's dura calc is useless, it should be said there in the verse page instead of putting it together with the other calcs that give the verse ratings
 
Theglassman12 said:
Yeah because Trevor's page in general needs an update and I'm waiting for Lightning to finish his Nocturne revisions first. The last thread that was accepted got the UES validated for the Netflix show, so Sypha's magic and Trevor's strength would be comparable here.
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Well I ain't going to take any fault here, there wasn't really a reason for me to suspect Trevor scales to a different 9-A feat (And is apparently Class K) when nothing there points to that feat.

Regardless of that, I still think Dante takes it
 
I don't see Dante taking this when anything and everything he can do, Trevor has dealt with and far worse and can still hold his ground on top of the AP gap not being that large and Trevor has numerous ways to catch enemies in his whip, something Dante wouldn't be able to avoid for long as one hit means he's dead.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Did you read the verse page? Because we have this feat here that Trevor scales to. Not skilled to what Trevor has shown. Dante loses his weapons and doesn't adapt on the fly when someone is comparable to him. He had no sword against Agni and Rudra and both bodied him to the point he needed Devil Trigger to beat either of them. Same against White Rabbit where he lost his sword and it he didn't really do anything like Trevor did in both season 1 and 2 where he fought enemies without a whip or a weapon and can improvise.
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I see... I think I go with Trevor in this case then.
 
No longer mad due to the fact Trevor's profile is not updated even with an accepted CRT so I am just going to switch to Trevor FRA, don't know why wait for a revision for a series that happens wayyy later when peeps already can update the profile and evade confusion.

I believe it is:

Trevor: 6 (Pyro9278, Mister6ame6, SuperSonicTL, UchihaSlayer96, Theglassman12, Drite77)

Dante: 0
 
Trevor folds Nante with the current profiles, straight up humiliates his ass with skill alone no need for the bootleg vampire killer FRA
 
Looks like Trevor takes it for the reasons above.

So Trevor FRA I guess.

In regards to Dante's sword skills, his fighting style does have a historical basis. The way he swings the sword around himself repeatedly in wide arcs kind of resembles how Indian Rajput warriors fought. So his fighting style is a real one. He at least knows what he's doing.
 
Random-Helper323 said:
Looks like Trevor takes it for the reasons above.

So Trevor FRA I guess.

In regards to Dante's sword skills, his fighting style does have a historical basis. The way he swings the sword around himself repeatedly in wide arcs kind of resembles how Indian Rajput warriors fought. So his fighting style is a real one. He at least knows what he's doing.
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Match was already added
 
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