[Captain America: Brave New World Spoilers] MCU Adamantium

[Golden_Void]

Since Tiamat's body failed to erupt in The Eternals, people studying it determined that it was composed of a material far better than vibranium and named it adamantium.

An argument can be made that Wolverine's adamantium isn't the same as this new adamantium, since adamantium is derived from Celestials in the MCU through Tiamat, meaning any existing adamantium (on Earth) would create a predestination paradox. But it will be stronger than vibranium when weapons are introduced.

However, Arishem is credited with causing the Big Bang, meaning he predates the universe. The Fox timelines now being part of the MCU's timelines means both franchises are governed by the TVA (exists outside of spacetime), which gave Deadpool new adamantium katanas. Since our timeline is the sacred timeline and Arishem pre-dates it, then logically, that should mean celestials are a multiversal constant. Technically, Loki established there shouldn't be a "sacred timeline" anymore, but Deadpool vs Wolverine happens after Loki, so idk.

Would both iterations of adamantium be constant through the TVA connection and with what we know about celestials?

 

[Golden_Void]

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[NeoKingOfLight]

Was it ever stated “where” Adamantium came from in Fox Timelines?

 

[Golden_Void]

Was it ever stated “where” Adamantium came from in Fox Timelines?

From a meteorite, so it's consistently extraterrestrial. Now that Fox is in Marvel, those are just alternate timelines of the MCU

 

[darkphantom9805]

From a meteorite, so it's consistently extraterrestrial. Now that Fox is in Marvel, those are just alternate timelines of the MCU

Fox admantium doesn’t scale to mcu admantium they aren’t even the same metal completely different origins

and celestials aren’t a multiverse thing they are shown to only be a universal one every universe has their own variants of them

 

[Golden_Void]

Fox admantium doesn’t scale to mcu admantium they aren’t even the same metal completely different origins

and celestial aren’t a multiverse thing they are shown to only be a universal one every universe has variants of them

Celestials created the MCU universe/timeline, which is the sacred timeline, which became the baseline timeline after the multiversal war. I'm not saying they created the multiverse, but branches from this timeline would have the same origin.

Regarding adamantium, Deadpool vs Wolverine should predate CA:BNW unless they started mining Tiamat's body in the Eternals, which we don't have evidence of since this movie is the first mention of the mining. TVA shows the Fox timelines as alternate timelines, and also gave Deadpool adamantium swords. Since they exist outside time in space, they would have knowledge of all occurrences of adamantium.

Since Marvel now owns both instances of the element, and Deadpool traveled to multiple realities visiting multiple Wolverines that all had the same adamantium, it seems more likely to assume adamantium is a constant rather than specifically plucked from a single timeline of infinite.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Celestials created the MCU universe/timeline, which is the sacred timeline, which became the baseline timeline after the multiversal war. I'm not saying they created the multiverse, but branches from this timeline would have the same origin.

Not how it works fox admantium physically can’t have the same origin the events of eternals didn’t happen and there was no fox sersi to turn the celestial into admantium in their universe meaning they are just completely different metals but have the same name

Regarding adamantium, Deadpool vs Wolverine should predate CA:BNW unless they started mining Tiamat's body in the Eternals, which we don't have evidence of since this movie is the first mention of the mining. TVA shows the Fox timelines as alternate timelines, and also gave Deadpool adamantium swords. Since they exist outside time in space, they would have knowledge of all occurrences of adamantium.

Yes they would have knowledge on different admantium but there’s no proof they gave Deadpool the mcu version rather then the fox which currently has no scaling to any top tier mcu metal

Since Marvel now owns both instances of the element, and Deadpool traveled to multiple realities visiting multiple Wolverines that all had the same adamantium, it seems more likely to assume adamantium is a constant rather than specifically plucked from a single timeline of infinite.

They can’t be constant the events of eternals didn’t happen in a fox timeline

 

[Golden_Void]

Not how it works fox admantium physically can’t have the same origin the events of eternals didn’t happen and there was no fox sersi to turn the celestial into admantium in their universe meaning they are just completely different metals but have the same name

I don't recall Cersi turning Tiamat into adamantium. I thought it was just stone. Source?

Yes they would have knowledge on different admantium but there’s no proof they gave Deadpool the mcu version rather then the fox which currently has no scaling to any top tier mcu metal

The TVA oversees the "Fox" and Marvel universes, so they would be aware of the strongest materials. They obviously have intimate knowledge of the Avengers. That being said if they chose to give Deadpool adamantium when vibranium exists, and adamantium was stated to be the strongest material known to man in both timelines, then they would've given Wade MCU vibranium if it was the stronger metal.

This means either way you look at it, MCU vibranium wasn't preferred to MCU adamantium, which we know is stronger, or Fox adamantium, which we didn't know was stronger, but we can logically conclude it is stronger.

Hopefully, Secret Wars or Doomsday will eventually clarify the merged universes because idk at this point.

 

[darkphantom9805]

I don't recall Cersi turning Tiamat into adamantium. I thought it was just stone. Source?

Celestials celestial island is her creation last time I checked celestials aren’t admantium or no either way there’s no proof fox admantium comes from celestials which don’t exist in fox verse

The TVA oversees the "Fox" and Marvel universes, so they would be aware of the strongest materials. They obviously have intimate knowledge of the Avengers. That being said if they chose to give Deadpool adamantium when vibranium exists, and adamantium was stated to be the strongest material known to man in both timelines, then they would've given Wade MCU vibranium if it was the stronger metal.

I mean uru is by far superior to vibranium any day so why not give him an uru weapon? But either way its a fox themed movie there’s no evidence he received mcu admantium over fox I agree the metal likely scales as marvel implied wolverine can fight hulk but until we see fox admantium interact with any mcu metals or high tiers it just simply has no scaling

This means either way you look at it, MCU vibranium wasn't preferred to MCU adamantium, which we know is stronger, or Fox adamantium, which we didn't know was stronger, but we can logically conclude it is stronger.

Hopefully, Secret Wars or Doomsday will eventually clarify the merged universes because idk at this point.

that doesn’t mean much it could just be the writers wanted him to have admantium and not vibranium or something