Can this qualify for transduality type 3?

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

So....i have a question if feats from a certain series qualify for type 3 transduality.
That series is shinza, and i will explain why:
First of all, the world contains every concievable dualistic phenomenon at the conceptual level as explained in avesta, which should include cause and effect, existing and nonexistence in the verse since those exists.
Now this character called methuselah could create a non dual void, so i guess that could be transduality.
Next, the singularity is said to be beyond what can be comprehended by humans and naturally is a state superior to everything other then the throne/origin coordinate in verse, and is even referred to as a realm of colourless taiji. It is here all concepts, are painted and it exists outside of all concepts which would probably include all dual concepts no matter how simple or complex they are. Even fredica who can transcend concepts can't reach it.
Finally, the origin coordinate is beyond the singularity and is completely apophatic to everything in verse, root of reason itself and can only be reached by the gods who are transcedent to everything and all, and referred to as the ultimate transcendence.
Does this qualify for type 3 transduality?

 

[ImmortalDread]

If I am not mistaken, those are 3-4 truth states. For transdaulity, you need at least 5.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

If I am not mistaken, those are 3-4 truth states. For transdaulity, you need at least 5.

duality (2)<Nondual void of metsulah (3)<Singularity(4) < Origin coordinate/Throne (5) <Taikyoku law (6) (Since it paints over the throe itself and is superior to the throne)
Not to mention Concepts (Dual)<<Laws<<Taikyoku law<<Higher gods exist unbound by and superior to the taikyoku of lower gods
I consider singularity as above metsulth void because it is beyond even those who can fight metsulah and his powers and it is something beyond everything shown before and incomprehensible compared to it.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Wait, I counted in the wrong way. Then yes, I agreed. Seems higher degree of transdaulity type 3.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Wait, I counted in the wrong way. Then yes, I agreed. Seems higher degree of transdaulity type 3.

another thing is, singularity can only be reached by the gods who transcend all and everything and they are conceptually superior to metsullah who is a concept. Weaker gods cannot reach / pierce the singularity of higher gods , so as ztiluth they are superior to metsulah but inferior to the singlarity of higher gods

 

[ImmortalDread]

another thing is, singularity can only be reached by the gods who transcend all and everything and they are conceptually superior to metsullah who is a concept. Weaker gods cannot reach / pierce the singularity of higher gods , so as ztiluth they are superior to metsulah but inferior to the singlarity of higher gods

Actually, this is fine. Which character qualifies this? Can you send the link?

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Wait, I counted in the wrong way. Then yes, I agreed. Seems higher degree of transdaulity type 3.

also taiji in shinza is basically masada equivalent of reason in maou gakuin in a way since it is above all simple or complex dual concepts/ laws.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Actually, this is fine. Which character qualifies this? Can you send the link?

Here is a thing

I would like to nominate the Hadou Gods for Absolute transcendence | Fandom

Let us see what absolute transcendence is…

powerlisting.fandom.com

A brief respect thread made by one of my homies. IT contains quite a few things but not the whole

 

[ImmortalDread]

Here is a thing

I would like to nominate the Hadou Gods for Absolute transcendence | Fandom

Let us see what absolute transcendence is…

powerlisting.fandom.com

A brief respect thread made by one of my homies. IT contains quite a few things but not the whole

bro WHAT

Are those real screenshots?

 

[Fixxed]

duality (2)<Nondual void of metsulah (3)<Singularity(4) < Origin coordinate/Throne (5) <Taikyoku law (6) (Since it paints over the throe itself and is superior to the throne)
Not to mention Concepts (Dual)<<Laws<<Taikyoku law<<Higher gods exist unbound by and superior to the taikyoku of lower gods
I consider singularity as above metsulth void because it is beyond even those who can fight metsulah and his powers and it is something beyond everything shown before and incomprehensible compared to it.

If same like you says, then fine i think

 

[ImmortalDread]

Tbh, I looked in the blog, and I never knew some verse really explains saying all info you need lol.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

bro WHAT

Are those real screenshots?

yes. Marie is a gudou god bro, she is not affected by the reason.

 

[ImmortalDread]

yes. Marie is a gudou god bro, she is not affected by the reason.

Do we have a verse in this wiki? If not, lets do it. Dang

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Do we have a verse in this wiki? If not, lets do it. Dang

It existed once, but got nuked due to most of it being not translated and was, well, heavily downgraded because of false interpretations/translations.

 

[ImmortalDread]

It existed once, but got nuked due to most of it being not translated and was, well, heavily downgraded because of false interpretations/translations.

Wait, are those screenshots real or not?

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Do we have a verse in this wiki? If not, lets do it. Dang

we are trying to revive it, but the current supporters, as you see, ae not very enthusiastc

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Wait, are those screenshots real or not?

yes, they are from the official english version

 

[ImmortalDread]

Unsure.... alone looking at screenshots seems really overpowered statements.
Where are threads about them? Can you link it

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Unsure.... alone looking at screenshots seems really overpowered statements.
Where are threads about them? Can you link it

try looking around man. just search shinza/dies irae and you should be able to find them.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Wait, are those screenshots real or not?

They are.

 

[ImmortalDread]

They are.

How come they get rejected? The character alone has insane hax and nature.
I am wondering about cosmology.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

How come they get rejected? The character alone has insane hax and nature.
I am wondering about cosmology.

Most of the Tier 1 stuff came from untranslated material. It contains ancient japanese, so very few people could actually read it. And those people are gone now. Plus, its a VN so you cant simply copy and paste the text into MTL, so the verse was left with a lot of clueless surpporters prone to wanking and misinterpreting the verse, until it was deleted. Needless to say, a CRT would be needed to get the verse back.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Most of the Tier 1 stuff came from untranslated material. It contains ancient japanese, so very few people could actually read it. And those people are gone now. Plus, its a VN so you cant simply copy and paste the text into MTL, so the verse was left with a lot of clueless surpporters prone to wanking and misinterpreting the verse, until it was deleted. Needless to say, a CRT would be needed to get the verse back.

this

 

[ImmortalDread]

Most of the Tier 1 stuff came from untranslated material. It contains ancient japanese, so very few people could actually read it. And those people are gone now, so the verse was left with a lot of clueless surpporters prone to wanking and misinterpreting the verse, until it was deleted. Needless to say, a CRT would be needed to get the verse back.

Welp, the verse is tier 1 as you said. We can revive it. But we need references and with accurate translation (if this screenshot is real, that's kinda amazing but like it does not even look like a metaphor to me)

Alone with fact, that she got nothingness manipulation, transdaulity type 3, possiblity manipulation... BDE type 3/2

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

How come they get rejected? The character alone has insane hax and nature.
I am wondering about cosmology.

to add salt to the injury the current supporters are all very unresponsive and inactive

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Welp, the verse is tier 1 as you said. We can revive it. But we need references and with accurate translation (if this screenshot is real, that's kinda amazing but like it does not even look like a metaphor to me)

Alone with fact, that she got nothingness manipulation, transdaulity type 3, possiblity manipulation... BDE type 3/2

The entire game of K3 is untranslated, so good luck with that.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Most of the Tier 1 stuff came from untranslated material. It contains ancient japanese, so very few people could actually read it. And those people are gone now. Plus, its a VN so you cant simply copy and paste the text into MTL, so the verse was left with a lot of clueless surpporters prone to wanking and misinterpreting the verse, until it was deleted. Needless to say, a CRT would be needed to get the verse back.

The high 1-A for the gods was pure wank apart from maybe hajun or naraka, but 1-A was fine. 1-B is just downplay

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Welp, the verse is tier 1 as you said. We can revive it. But we need references and with accurate translation (if this screenshot is real, that's kinda amazing but like it does not even look like a metaphor to me)

Alone with fact, that she got nothingness manipulation, transdaulity type 3, possiblity manipulation... BDE type 3/2

The verse is one of the few to nicely explain the difference between a higher and a lower dimension, that is why it was so overpowered and solid. Apart from structures like the singularity which is layered.

 

[ImmortalDread]

The entire game of K3 is untranslated, so good luck with that.

So we need a translator or perhaps can't we use DeepL? wait u said its acient-

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

So we need a translator or perhaps can't we use DeepL? wait u said its acient-

as for apophatic shit, you have the throne, which due to mercurius being an ass turned into a bizzare hyperdimensional space that cannot be described by any language even compared to incomprehensible realms like the taiji singularity (singualrity is beyond duality at a conceptual level, and even non dual voids)

 

[ImmortalDread]

as for apophatic shit, you have the throne, which due to mercurius being an ass turned into a bizzare hyperdimensional space that cannot be described by any language even compared to incomprehensible realms like the taiji singularity (singualrity is beyond duality at a conceptual level, and even non dual voids)

Dang, the verse alone looks so powerful and def not made for battle boarding

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Dang, the verse alone looks so powerful and def not made for battle boarding

Masada mainly draws inspiration from vague religion/philosophy . Apart from that you have nerose being the embodiment of the totality of mathematical logic at the conceptual level (And yes, mercurius's throne is beyond him)

 

[ImmortalDread]

Masada mainly draws inspiration from vague religion/philosophy . Apart from that you have nerose being the embodiment of the totality of mathematical logic at the conceptual level (And yes, mercurius's throne is beyond him)

Alone the throne solos most of the fiction, if not all.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Alone the throne solos most of the fiction, if not all.

Er no. The throne/origin coordinate is basically the masada version of the swirl of the root. It is a metaphysical device. And by itself it caps out at High 1-A in hajun's throne.
I can probably throw in Naraka for above baseline high 1-A, but tier 0 is too much of a stretch and likely a wank.

 

[PrinceofPein]

to add salt to the injury the current supporters are all very unresponsive and inactive

Uhhmm well we are actually not, but we need to wait for aditya to finish before we can actually do anything as thats before the throne era so it will be the determinant factors on their tier.
Also most of the pages are done, aside from PL pages and some DI pages anyway

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Uhhmm well we are actually not, but we need to wait for aditya to finish before we can actually do anything as thats before the throne era so it will be the determinant factors on their tier.
Also most of the pages are done, aside from PL pages and some DI pages anyway

bruh, all of you are inactive in discord

 

[PrinceofPein]

The high 1-A for the gods was pure wank apart from maybe hajun or naraka, but 1-A was fine. 1-B is just downplay

This is false, if Hajun is High 1-A, then the other gods too will be High 1-A.
Is it from them actually killing him on separate occasions, or fighting him to a standstill, or muzan chopping his fingers off?
Also the naraka and Hajun cannot be on the same level

bruh, all of you are inactive in discord

Because there is nothing to do right now and most things that needs urgent attention has been resolved

 

[PrinceofPein]

So....i have a question if feats from a certain series qualify for type 3 transduality.
That series is shinza, and i will explain why:
First of all, the world contains every concievable dualistic phenomenon at the conceptual level as explained in avesta, which should include cause and effect, existing and nonexistence in the verse since those exists.
Now this character called methuselah could create a non dual void, so i guess that could be transduality.
Next, the singularity is said to be beyond what can be comprehended by humans and naturally is a state superior to everything other then the throne/origin coordinate in verse, and is even referred to as a realm of colourless taiji. It is here all concepts, are painted and it exists outside of all concepts which would probably include all dual concepts no matter how simple or complex they are. Even fredica who can transcend concepts can't reach it.
Finally, the origin coordinate is beyond the singularity and is completely apophatic to everything in verse, root of reason itself and can only be reached by the gods who are transcedent to everything and all, and referred to as the ultimate transcendence.
Does this qualify for type 3 transduality?

Anyway to answer your questions, yes they can indeed qualify for type 3.
Also Meth never created a non-dual void and neither is he dualistic in any sense.
He is darkness, not darkness and light.
He is simply all the unverse darkness

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

This is false, if Hajun is High 1-A, then the other gods too will be High 1-A.
Is it from them actually killing him on separate occasions, or fighting him to a standstill, or muzan chopping his fingers off?
Also the naraka and Hajun cannot be on the same level

Because there is nothing to do right now and most things that needs urgent attention has been resolved

Uh what? Wasn't there a statement saying hajun sees tenma yato the same way a taikyoku god would see a normal human?

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Anyway to answer your questions, yes they can indeed qualify for type 3.
Also Meth never created a non-dual void and neither is he dualistic in any sense.
He is darkness, not darkness and light.
He is simply all the unverse darkness

Didn't he created a void that is neither yin or yang?