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Bungou Stray Dogs - Abilities, Fixing and Cosmology CRT

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I would like to thank @RoggerReggor (For giving scans and also revising everything) and @Zefra3011 (For also helping with the revision)

Osamu Dazai;

Dazai key;

9-B, Far higher with Preparation, 2-A with "The book"

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Master Hand to Hand Combatent- (Did Spartan training alongside his subordinates including Akutagawa and trained Atsushi for Four years and a half) - Organizing

Genius Intelligence; - Organizing everything
Analytical Prediction and Information Analysis - (Stated he could memorize Methods, Timing and Habits, And was stated he could also read moves, Can also predict a 6 digit number a person is thinking, Can predict entire scenarios ahead of time, Able to predict how many bullets will a shooter shoot at him just upon the shooter's emotions, Able to know things about his opponent just by looking at him, Upscales Akutagawa who can predict bullet trajectories and attacks) - Giving more feats and organizing everything

Dazai's No longer human;

Power Nullification, Non-Physical Interaction and Minor Paralysis Inducement - (2 Layers for Non-Physical Interaction - Dazai can touch Rashōmon who is a Ethereal Beast made of what it seems made of Dark matter that comes from interdimensional of sorts, Demon Snow can become even more incorporeal where in turn Akutagawa can touch Demon Snow via Spatial Distortions and Dazai can touch both, Moreover Dazai can also paralyse temporarly anyone he touches seen as Atsushi was stuck in the air during that time without being capable of moving)

Optional Equipment for Dazai - "The book"

"The book's" Abilities;

Reality Warping
- (Dazai said that writing anything in the Book changed the realities and synchronized the current world with the world in which the reality which he wished took place)

Plot Manipulation - (Dazai said that he manipulated the scenarios of the plot itself, and changed it to the only possible plot where Oda lived to further become a writer)

Kunikida Doppo;

Weapon Mastery
- (Knows how to use guns and Grenades)

Kunikida's The Matchless Poet;

Creation and Weapon Creation - (Can create a wiregun and guns);
  • Eletricity Manipulation - (Can create Taser to attack the opponent)
  • Light Manipulation - (Can create a flash bang)
  • Explosion Manipulation - (Can create a grenade)
  • Sound Manipulation - (Can create a sonic grenade)
  • Gas manipulation and Status inducement - (Can create a Tear gas canister)
  • Technology manipulation - (Can create Walkie Talkies that can acess to encypted frequencie)
Standard equipment for Kunikida - Hand book and Pen, Taser, Grenade, Sonic Grenade, Tear Gas Canister, Wire Gun, Desert Eagle - With The Matchless Poet

Akutagawa Ryuunosuke


Akutagawa's Rashōmon

Void Manipulation, Spacial Manipulation, Durability Negation, Shapeshift - (Can summon an Ethereal Beast named Rashōmon which can devour virtually anything, even space itself and shapeshifts into any shape Ryuunosuke desires)

Non-Physical Interaction - (2 layers - Can touch Demon Snow even after it became incorporeal to physical attacks)

Some fixes for the verse;

After careful reading and also listening to what ArmorChompy said, I think i may have confused things about how power nullification works;

Dazai and Chuuya - Attack Reflection gets removed - (After analysing Fukuchi, I realized he may skill-wise more skilled than both Chuuya and Dazai)

Dazai's resistences - Healing, Death manipulation, Mind manipulation, Illusion creation - (Gets also nuked, This is because of what ArmorChompy said, After reading how Power Nullification works, Armor is correct and i confused on how the ability works)

Dazai's Pressure points - Bad reasoning

Incorporeality scaling chain

Demon Snow Post incorporeality = Rashōmon with spacial attacks > Rashōmon normally = Demon Snow Normally

Dazai can nullify their abilities even with incorporeality

Cosmology;

2-A due to infinite parallel worlds and 4-D due to infinite space time continuums

Scans are in the beginning

Staff Votes;

Staff Agrees - Armorchompy, LephyrTheRevanchist, Dereck03

Staff Disagrees -

Staff Neutral -
 
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Is it allowed to use other fandom data as a proof/scan.
Cuz for me idk about the Verse so its obvious that I won't be familiar with those information if those are correct or not.
They are correct

He has feats regarding durability negation and fandom also shows some proof
 
What are these from?
Power Nullification, Non-Physical Interaction and Paralysis Inducement - (2 Layers for Non-Physical Interaction - Dazai can touch Rashōmon who is a Ethereal Beast made of what it seems made of Dark matter that comes from interdimensional of sorts, Demon Snow can become even more incorporeal where in turn Akutagawa can touch Demon Snow via Spatial Distortions and Dazai can touch both, Moreover Dazai can also paralyse temporarly anyone he touches seen as Atsushi was stuck in the air during that time without being capable of moving)
I think them freezing is just a style thing, here the guy reacts while the powernull is happening. As for the rest, you really should post scans.
Reality Warping - (With "The Book", Dazai can change entire scenario in his real world via another world in it, making the realities of those worlds a reality of his own world.)

Plot Manipulation - (Dazai can change the scenarios of his world with "The Book", changing the plot of his own world. With it, he created a world where Oda lives up to become a writer in the future.)
This would need scans also.
Void Manipulation, Spacial Manipulation, Durability Negation, Shapeshift - (Can summon an Ethereal Beast named Rashōmon which can devour virtually anything, even space itself and shapeshifts into any shape Ryuunosuke desires)

Non-Physical Interaction - (2 layers - Can touch Demon Snow even after it became incorporeal to physical attacks)
This too.

Rest is ok. Could use some References though.
 
What are these from?
Those are from volume 6 LN
I think them freezing is just a style thing, here the guy reacts while the powernull is happening. As for the rest, you really should post scans.
But they stay freezed in the air, Dazai even talks while Atsushi is paralyzed in the air, I'm not saying this is a sort of attack incapable of them reacting, Just saying that it freezes
This too.
The fandom states Rashomon can "consume anything, even space itself"

Rashōmon: Agito allows Rashōmon to be shaped into the form of a jaw to crush the target. It converges shadows to create the jaws of a Rashōmon, capable of ripping a fully-formed tiger that not even bullets can penetrate

Beast Beneath the Moonlight–Rashōmon: Black Tiger's Supreme Claw (Gekka-jū Rashōmon: Kokko Zessō): Using the tiger's claws that can cut through abilities themselves and Rashōmon, Atsushi can stretch out that severed space and cut through physical armor and abilities. As it morphs into a divine blade, Akutagawa claims that no life form can possibly survive this attack.
 
Those are from volume 6 LN
I see.
But they stay freezed in the air, Dazai even talks while Atsushi is paralyzed in the air, I'm not saying this is a sort of attack incapable of them reacting, Just saying that it freezes
I guess minor paralysis maybe?
The fandom states Rashomon can "consume anything, even space itself"
Wikis are made by fans so unfortunately we don't use them as evidence.
 
Anyways, as I was involved in this and mostly the cosmology part, I will try to explain it from my side as well. Zetsu has done it as well but I will try to make it elaborate, and also because Zetsu asked me to do it since I have read the novel.

So, the Bungou Stray Dogs cosmology was revealed only in Volume 6 of the Light Novel. The manga kind of does it as well but the manga is not as elaborate as the Light Novel, due to the writing space and limitations of course. And Dazai did it in like 2 pages of the Light Novel.

So, for starters, Dazai mentions that the Book is a cosmology in itself, having an infinite number of potential worlds inside it.
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A world can be considered to be a space-time continuum, so, there is an infinite number of them. Furthermore, they were described to have branched out into an infinite number of different paths.

So, look at it like this:
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First off, we have The Book, which contains the Bungou Stray Dogs (or BSD) cosmology. Each world should have the potential to have at least one Book, considering how Dazai himself is in one world and has one himself:
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The Book is the BSD cosmology, but while it is, it also serves as tool to interact with other worlds.

All the possible worlds have physical existence, considering how the world in which Dazai currently resides in equalizes with the other possible worlds.

So, by default, the cosmology which the Book affects would be 2-A.

The people who can use the Book or have used the Book can be scaled as "up to 2-A via The Book".

The Book, furthermore, would give Reality Warping and Plot Manipulation.

Explaining hierarchies:
While the Book is an absolute object which contains the BSD cosmology in itself, there are hierarchies in the BSD world itself.

The current Dazai, or the Dazai which we are seeing is cosmologically inferior to the true Dazai, or the Dazai which exists beyond the cosmology which I just scaled. For things, the Dazai in the upper layers will be just seeing the current Dazai as mere fiction or just a character of a Book, as he exists outside the Book, and current Dazai would just be a character. I don't know which tier these grant, but it is possibly even Tier 1 (or maybe not), might need a Tier 1 specialist though.

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Now, understanding the hierarchy:
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Real Dazai is above the current Dazai, and from the Outside World, the worlds inside the Book can be destroyed.
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So, the real Dazai is incomprehensibly above the current Dazai, or to say, the Dazai whose story we are seeing.

Current Dazai, though, may possibly not be able to interact with the Real Dazai, but can interact with the memories of him.
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The above scans also show that Dazai was the person to create the Book using his own skill and create a strong point of singularity through combining Atsushi and Akutagawa's abilities. An elaborate scan on that:
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This might give Dazai Supergenius, for making a thing which can warp reality and affect his entire world. The reason why we can say that he invented it is because he was the only one who got the knowledge for it, and he manipulated both Akutagawa and Atsushi in order to achieve the Book.

I think we might be able to make a key for the Real Dazai, and give him a ready tier, for being able to manipulate the entire BSD world and even destroy it.

So, BSD cosmology in short:
2 hierarchies, one on the above containing a single physical reality, one inside the Book containing an infinite number of worlds, which furthermore increase in number into various paths. The infinite potential worlds contain scenarios, but the paths contain the choices made by characters in those scenarios.
 
Since we have 2 staff votes on agrees, May i start adding/removing things of the profile?

Since 48H also have passed
 
Op had asked for my opinion but I kept forgetting to comment because I was busy, I agree with Armor.
 
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