Jackythejack
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Yo my dudes that's five.
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British Spy vs. French Spy
- Thread starter CinnabarManx421
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Jackythejack
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Grace.
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Heartbreaking
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I shed a tear at every bond deathTheArsenal1212 said:
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I mean, I still don't see how Spy beats the Vanquish but I guess im alone in that
Jackythejack
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...the vanquish was never mentioned in this thread at all tho
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Some of the reasoning here seems a bit flawed. Escpacially the part about Bond "letting his guard down" when activating his heat-tracking device. I mean the fact that he uses it in itself PRESUMES that Bond doesn't think of it as over until the death is confirmed so logically he would have to take the scenario of a "oh he was only pretending after all!"-scenario into consideration. Also it's really hard to say whom would even be the first to notice the other first. Also there seems to be a clear line drawn that Spy has better basic disguise and direct combat ability while Bond has better general utility and seems better to use the surroundings to his advantage.
With the given scenario and the heat-tracking device, Spy's disguise advantage doesn't really matter once exposed once. Without prior knowledge the first-attack advantage also doesn't really exist for him. So it would come down to either:
Voting Incon...
wait is my vote the decisive one? Does the 7-5 rule apply even if it's "favoring one side vs incon"? Anyway, doesn't matter. I vote incon for reasons stated.
With the given scenario and the heat-tracking device, Spy's disguise advantage doesn't really matter once exposed once. Without prior knowledge the first-attack advantage also doesn't really exist for him. So it would come down to either:
- Who tracks down the other one first with sheer espionage skill (very difficult to determine)
- Direct combat ability advantage vs utility advantage (would go to spy in a more open space, but with crowded urban areas it gets balanced out)
Voting Incon...
wait is my vote the decisive one? Does the 7-5 rule apply even if it's "favoring one side vs incon"? Anyway, doesn't matter. I vote incon for reasons stated.
CinnabarManx421
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Well the grace timer restarted about 6 hours ago due to Neo's additional vote.
Jackythejack
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Cinnabar was James in his car the whole time?
CinnabarManx421
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He has his cars in his 9-A key so I would assume so, unless he decided to get out to track Spy down.
Jackythejack
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I mean personally I feel like He urban space would quickly become less crowded as soon as the first gunshot rings out, because people aren't gonna run away. It's just more of an opportunity for Spy to sneak around, because it's be harder to focus on him in a panicked crowd. Bond wouldn't even have his thermal vision on right away either so it's not like he'd immediately know the guy was faking it.
Jackythejack
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I now imagine James Bond running down people in a crowded street to find this SpyCinnabarManx421 said:
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James can use the thermal in the car if he wanted to. There really isn't anything stopping it
Jackythejack
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I'm just saying the only way I can see Bond winning is incap because of the tier difference. I barely understand what the inconclusive vote is before, though?
Like so it relies on Bond shooting spy once. Either Spy fakes his death or doesn't actually register it because it's a 9-B weapon and it doesn't hurt him that much. If he fakes his death, Bond has to turn on his thermal vision, determine that he's not dead somehow (which I still don't understand because Spy could just move out of his line of sight), swap guns to a sleep dart thing and shoot Spy with it, and then have the drugs take effect before Spy can turn around and shoot once? Or stab him in the back?
Also if Spy just doesn't take his death then he turns around and shoots Bond. He's still a good shot and a world class mercenary, better than just about all of the world's military, and, again, if he has access to everything he ever has he has ubercharge canisters which make him immune to damage. As well as several other things due to MVM
Like so it relies on Bond shooting spy once. Either Spy fakes his death or doesn't actually register it because it's a 9-B weapon and it doesn't hurt him that much. If he fakes his death, Bond has to turn on his thermal vision, determine that he's not dead somehow (which I still don't understand because Spy could just move out of his line of sight), swap guns to a sleep dart thing and shoot Spy with it, and then have the drugs take effect before Spy can turn around and shoot once? Or stab him in the back?
Also if Spy just doesn't take his death then he turns around and shoots Bond. He's still a good shot and a world class mercenary, better than just about all of the world's military, and, again, if he has access to everything he ever has he has ubercharge canisters which make him immune to damage. As well as several other things due to MVM
Jackythejack
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How is Bond going to knock down Spy when in his car, though? He can run him over because thatd kill civilians, and he can't shoot missiles at him because that'd kill civilians.TheArsenal1212 said:
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He'd more than likely just wait for Spy to make a move while he stays invisible. He wouldn't risk hurting an innocent life if he can help it.
Outside the Vanquish yeah Jack I'd favour Spy i agree with ya on that now. Fair play.
Inside the Vanquish?... James probably plays it safe and doesn't attack until he knows to. Once he does he spams the missiles
Outside the Vanquish yeah Jack I'd favour Spy i agree with ya on that now. Fair play.
Inside the Vanquish?... James probably plays it safe and doesn't attack until he knows to. Once he does he spams the missiles
