Boruto movie upgrades.

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Antvasima Lord Kavpeny

Before anything else Narutos Key is wrong in the last he didnt use 100% kyuubi bijuu sage mode he released kyuubi to fight hamuras statue what he actually uses is kyuubi chakra sage mode since he only borrowed chakra from kyuubi.


Anyways besides all that as for naruto and sasuke ill state some reasoning:

As Ant said half of moon level is moon level.

Kaguya's sons inherited Yang(Hagoromo) and Ying(Hamura) from her and defeated Juubi and it was sealed inside hagoromo .

Hagoromo being the jinchuriki gained the second half that his brother hamura gained from kaguya (Ying) hence being able to perform six paths chibaku tensei(Yang-Ying) alone now.

Naruto and sasuke both resprent Yang-Ying however theyre much weaker than hagoromo and hamura since theyre not direct descendants of Kaguya obviously.

When Naruto and Sasuke gain Hagoromos power however they reach the level of what hagoromo and hamura were due to their sheer inheritence both have the seals the sun and the moon .

Them combining theyre seals and perfoming six paths chibaku tensei as solid proof of that.

In their last fight naruto and sasuke both utilize all 9 tailed beast naruto doing it in a lower scale due to only having small amounts of their chakra.

Sasuke uses chakra from all bijuu at once.

And then you may ask why didnt sasuke gain another rinnegan or form?

Sasuke doesnt actualle absorb the chakra he focuses it in his susano since he doesnt have Gedo statue to combine the bijuu with as kyuubi mentions and the power is keyword practically hagoromos level though though not actually his level.

Point is that Sasuke's Six paths susano was above a young hamura with only yang but bellow old hagoromo which still qualifies for moon level and Naruto equalized it with all chakra from the bijuus and his yang chakra that shouldve been on par with young hagoromo with only yang.


Does this clarify everything?

No no it dosen't

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I'd like to point out that Naruto and Sasuke gained additional power after Madara was defeated.

Naruto: Yin and Yang Kurama finally became whole (which gives Naruto more power overall), he can draw upon all the natural energy in the world to supplement his power, and he acquired Hashirama's DNA (which increases his power and stamina overall).

Sasuke: He used his Susanoo as a container for all the Bijuu's power (which is basically creating his own version of the Juubi)

Not only weren't they 50 times weaker than Madara, they closed the gap between him even further by gaining more power.

The fact we don't how much is a problem here.....

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

@Pietro Maximoff

You dont even bring reasoning as to why it seems as though you just dont want them upgraded......

 

[UncleSpaceman]

Biju Sage Mode Naruto is slightly stronger than Toneri. Momoshiki held his own against Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto & Rinnegan Sasuke. Ergo, Momoshiki is vastly stronger than Toneri, so via power-scaling Momoshiki is moon level.

Like Toneri, Momoshiki evantually lost his edge, from the Boruto Novel

"Shockingly, the power inside him that he'd absorbed from Kinshiki which should've been his trump card was insufficient. No, that wasn't it. He had no choice but to acknowledge it. The men in front of his eyes…were strong. If it was one on one, he would be able to keep up."

Ergo, we can establish a power-scale of,

Naruto = Sasuke >= Momoshiki >>>>>>>> Toneri

Naruto novels are non-cano

LOL, the timeline which includes the novels begs to differ with you. The Boruto Movie was written by both Kodachi & Kishimoto, the Boruto Novel was written by Kodachi, ergo it's canon because it was written by a primary source.

Tailed Beast chakra remains inside somebody even if the Tailed Beast is extracted.

• Naruto still has chakra from each tailed beast inside of him

• Shikamaru Hiden Chapter 7 "The Nine Tails was still living inside Naruto. There were also remnants of the other 8 bijuu inside him as well, In that way, you could say he was a human pillar for the power of the Ten Tails."

So, in the same way as Naruto, Sasuke should still have chakra from each of the tailed beast's

Regardless Sasuke is "Like the Six Paths Geezer's level", Madara is roughly equal to Hagoromo also, so their is no way Sasuke is 50x weaker than Madara.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

@Pietro Maximoff

You dont even bring reasoning as to why it seems as though you just dont want them upgraded......

Jesus Christ, i don't care about them being upgraded, all i want is more proof then a mere character statment(which none of you has brought)

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

You obviously do if you're here and the showings I provided solidify the statements not the other way around here .

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

You know what I don't care anymore, do what you f**** want

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Uh...ok then.

 

[Non-Bias]

I'd like to point out that Naruto and Sasuke gained additional power after Madara was defeated.

Naruto: Yin and Yang Kurama finally became whole (which gives Naruto more power overall), he can draw upon all the natural energy in the world to supplement his power, and he acquired Hashirama's DNA (which increases his power and stamina overall).

Sasuke: He used his Susanoo as a container for all the Bijuu's power (which is basically creating his own version of the Juubi)

Not only weren't they 50 times weaker than Madara, they closed the gap between him even further by gaining more power.

The fact we don't how much is a problem here.....

Perhaps, but we know for a fact that it closed the gap between them and Madara. Not to mention they became stronger in the following years to come.

Take Sasuke for example. His Chidori, which never focused on outright destruction more so than piercing, was around Wall/Street Level in destructive power. In The Last, he destroyed a meteor with Chidori that was going to destroy the Leaf Village, which was called a large city. Chidori is one of Sasuke's weakest attacks and you can see the jump in power from my example above. I don't see why his other techniques wouldn't receive similar power buffs, which is why I said I don't see how they could have the same power rating as teens and adults. It seems very inaccurate in my opinion.

 

[Antvasima]

This thread has turned too long and veered off-topic, despite reaching a conclusion. I will now close it and create a streamlined version that is supposed to only discuss which states of Naruto, Madara, and Sasuke that should be upgraded, and by how much?