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Boros's CSRC Revision

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What I don't get is why we don't have meteoric burst on a similar level to CSRC. They're both trump cards and both severely waste the user's energy; they're clearly on a similar level.

Besides it's highly likely that the boost Meteoric Burst gives enough of a boost for Boros to pass baseline High 6-A anyway, but again I'll wait for the recalc
 
@Misterman12

If you do not permanently drop the derision and hostility we will regrettably have to block you.
 
@Gyro no they're not. One is a stat amping ability that drains the user's stamina really quickly, and the other is an all out attack.
 
That said, you are free to argue, as long as you do so in a polite and respectful manner.
 
Also, notice we literally aren't downgrading Boros. It's already agreed that his CSRC doesn't represent his usual AP; it's literally a last resort move that uses all of his energy at once. It's just like how Kaguya has a different rating for her Expansive Truth-Seeking Ball.
 
Strawman. I'm not saying that they're the same type of attack; I'm saying they should be at least somewhat comparable in power, given that they're both referred to as 'trump cards' and both waste the user's energy to a large degree.

@Glass
 
@Damage

No. Kaguya has a separate rating for her ETSB because her ETSB is made with OTHER people's chakra. It's not made with her own chakra, that's why it has a separate rating.

HOWEVER, Boros's CSRC is generated with his VERY own energy and nothing more. Kaguya and Boros's situations are completely different.
 
For example, Saitama is a solid 5-B, but his normal attacks are WAAAY weaker than planet level. But we're not going to change Saitama's rating to "7-B, 5-B with Serious Series" are we?

Do you get what I'm saying?
 
No, I don't really get it.

He already has High 6-A with CRSC. He is explicitly only capable of High 6-A AP with CRSC.

I see no reason to change it so that his AP is always High 6-A. There is no confusion on his profile currently; it's pretty clearly explained why the rating is the way it is.
 
Saitama's casual attacks are only 7-A at best, and he's only 5-B with his Serious Series. But why is Saitama a solid 5-B?

Do you see how ridiulous it is?
 
Yes, which is why I'm not suggesting we add that to Saitama's profile.

I'm saying we keep Boros' profile as it is now because it is clear and straightforward. There is no confusion about it; Boros is only High 6-A with a special attack he can only use once during a fight and afterwards he is completely drained.

Saying he's just High 6-A is ignoring that whole side of it.
 
Damage3245 said:
No, I don't really get it.

He already has High 6-A with CRSC. He is explicitly only capable of High 6-A AP with CRSC.

I see no reason to change it so that his AP is always High 6-A. There is no confusion on his profile currently; it's pretty clearly explained why the rating is the way it is.
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You're acting like CSRC is a borrowed power, even though it's not. Kaguya is only 5-A when borrowing other people's chakra. But that isn't the case with Boros.


Listen to me. Saitama is only capable of 5-B AP when using his Serious Series. His normal attacks are only around 7-A. So should we change Saitama's rating to "7-A, 5-B with Serious Series"?

No, we're not gonna do that because that's ridiculous. So why are we doing that with Boros? CSRC is to Boros what the Serious Series is to Saitama.
 
@Mister his serious series is something he can use as much as his normal punches. It's not a good comparison to CSRC
 
Serious Series doesn't use all of Saitama's energy in a single attack, it's just him fighting seriously. Not comparable to CSRC.
 
@Mister Where did you get this idea from that we only give an attack its separate rating if it is performed through stolen/borrowed energy?
 
The Human Torch has a vastly higher AP rating for his supernova power than his baseline AP for example.
 
We're inconsistent with the way we treat characters that have power blasts stronger than their physical stats. We do it for Fate but not for DragonBall, etc.
 
I think that it depends on how extreme the power difference is. The tiers for the Dragon Ball characters have very large differences between the lower and upper borders.
 
I think Saitama should be "At least High 6-A, possibly 5-B".

Murata is an artist not the author of the manga so we can't justify Saitama's tier based on his statment
 
Yes, Saitama stated he can destroy Earth without having any planet level feats so we can't justily his tier eather
 
It's a legit canon statement that Saitama can "bust" the earth, so I still think a solid 5-B is fine where its at. Cell's 4-B rating technically comes from a Word of God statement that's backed up in every single medium; and he actually does it in one of the games.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
We should also clean up all of Saitama and Boros's match ups while we're at it. Literally all of them are about to be outdated for different reasons. Downgrading to a baseline 5-B Saitama with no hax basically retcons all his current wins and his losses are most likely stomps now.
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Out of curiosity but why baseline 5-B and not high 5-B?
 
Because Boros's Collapsing Star Roar Cannon got downgraded to a simple High 6-A with no possibly 5-B. Saitama is literally the only character left who's 5-B so we'll have to assume baseline by default.

Anyway, can we please close this thread? It looks like the edits have been made and the thread is going all over the place at this point.
 
No i mean, i didn't see why Saitama can't have high 5-B stats just from statement. it's didn't explained exactly how much effort he need to put tp destroy earth. And sentence like "He can do it if he want" doesn't sound like he even need to put effort into it.
 
@Medeus

Yes. I will close this thread now.
 
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