Boros's CSRC Revision

[Andytrenom]

I for one agree.

 

[Damage3245]

I agree with those suggestions.

 

[Kepekley23]

So do I.

 

[TataHakai]

Me too.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that it can probably be applied then.

 

[Andytrenom]

I will apply it then.

 

[Antvasima]

Thanks.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Before this is closed how about giving Boros's armored key a rating similar to Orochi? Like "Unknow. At least 7-B, possibly higher" and the justifcation being "Superior to Geryuganshoop and Melzalgald. As a Dragon level threat he should be superior to the Sea King" or just "As a Dragon level threat he should be superior to the Sea King"

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

How will Saitama be affected by this? His scaling seems to come from Boros' attack.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Maverick he has planet level statements on his own

 

[Qawsedf234]

His justification for his AP and Durability will need to be changed though.


Attack Potency: Unknow. At least Planet level (He easily defeated Lord Boros in one punch after getting serious. The official databook and the secondary canon anime states Boros was able to bust the Earth. Saitama stated that he could destroy the planet in the webcomic. Murata also stated that Saitama can blow up Earth if he wanted to)

Durability: Unknow. At least Planet level (Easily tanked Lord Boros' attack)

 

[Andytrenom]

@Qawsedf234 What would you change it to?

 

[GyroNutz]

Shouldn't Garou and Boros be At least 6-A? Cause right now it implies that Boros would stomp Garou due to CSRC, whereas the At least implies this isn't the case (which it isn't)

Also Boros' sealed form should be Unknown. At least 7-B, likely far higher if anything

 

[Kepekley23]

The fact that his muscles don't split apart from the strain suggest 5-B dura.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

"Cause right now it implies that Boros would stomp Garou due to CSRC"

Garou has no counter to CSRC,only his skill.

@Qawsedf234

The "at least" should be removed from Saitama,cause he is straight planet level only,now.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Boros wouldn't bust out the CSRC unless he was on the verge of losing or dying in the first place.


@Andytrenom For Attack Potency the Murata quote, webcomic statement, and change the Boros part to "Overpowered the CSRC while holding back ". Durability would have to be scaling to the recoil of his serious punch rather than the CSRC.

 

[GyroNutz]

None of that changes the fact that if Boros stomped with CSRC then ONE wouldn't have described it as a close match with an undecided victor

 

[Andytrenom]

@Gyro I am not sure. Boros was definitely putting a lot of effort when causing major damage to his ship (which is what gives him the 6-A rating) so an "at least" may not be needed in this case.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I mean, I the fight is close. The CSRC is a special move that Boros can only use once and it hits majorly out of his standard range. Garou doesn't need to scale to that in order to have a close match with Boros.

 

[GyroNutz]

He'd wouldn't need to be that much stronger than Saitama landing on his ship which his ship tanked to be High 6-A, plus I still don't think there should be such a gap between CSRC and Garou/Boros' full power (without CSRC)

 

[Andytrenom]

What Qawsedf234 said

 

[GyroNutz]

I mean, I the fight is close. The CSRC is a special move that Boros can only use once and it hits majorly out of his standard range. Garou doesn't need to scale to that in order to have a close match with Boros.

That and meteoric burst are both described as trump cards. They shouldn't be that far apart.

I'm not saying that Garou fully scales to Boros, but the victor would be very clear if CSRC one shot Garou, which contradicts ONE's statement

 

[Qawsedf234]

> I still don't think there should be such a gap between CSRC and Garou/Boros' full power (without CSRC)


Why not? Plenty of people on the site have ultimate attacks thousands or even millions of times stronger than their base rating.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

The difference between Star Cannon and their Casual punches is very huge.

You can not scale 1 time attack to casual punches.

 

[GyroNutz]

That's not really the case here since Boros vs Garou would have an undecided victor, meaning that it's very hard to believe that an inconclusive match between the two would have one side with an insta-win button in the CSRC

 

[GyroNutz]

also since when were Boros' and Garou's punches casual?

If they were that's all the more reason to rate them as 'at least 6-A'

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Garou isn't going to stand still and let Boros to charge Star Cannon,he just simply goes and kills him,GG.

ONE in his statement praised Garou's skills but also made it cleare that Boros is stronger AP wise.

 

[Kepekley23]

ONE said Garou had the advantage in close combat and implied Boros would have the advantage when it came to non melee attacks. So yes, CSRC would obviously be a trump card that'd take Garou out.

 

[GyroNutz]

Let me use an example.

Let's say that Genos was to fight Sonic. Genos and Sonic have all their usual abilities, but the good Dr Kuseno supplies Genos with a new weapon with 6-C AP. Who would win?

In any other case, it would be very evenly matched. The victor would be undecided. However, with the addition of this new weapon, Genos would obviously win.

Now, Boros vs Garou would also be a match with an undecided victor. They have edges over each other, but neither have a definitive winning edge.

Let's slap CSRC into the mix, and suddenly Boros has a pretty damn good edge over Garou. He has an attack that one shots Garou! Boros would be the clear winner here!

Except that's not what would happen. Boros and Garou would be evenly matched and there would be no deciding edge that leads to a deciding victor.

 

[Andytrenom]

Should I change Saitama's rating to "possibly" or "likely" 5-B instead of "at least". It seems more appropriate imo.

 

[Kepekley23]

Just "5-B" across the board.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I always took "Shave the Earth" to mean that the attack would "shave" the Earth's surface off.

I agree with the OP.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Saitama should be plain 5-B I guess,due to statements,but those are just statements without feats,so possibly 5-B is also a way.

 

[Qawsedf234]

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Not the best translator but here's what I got using the wiki and Google Translate

ONE : Garou or Boros, who would win? Before, Boros was definitely the stronger one, but Garou is now a near-perfect monster. I don't really know. A good match . . . I do believe Garou is stronger in close combat where things like punches and kicks can generally be avoided.

Even if you look at the portrait description, Boros will fight with overwhelming power, superior playback ability, energy attacks from a distance, while Garou will fight with excellent fighting ability (though I showed off and knocked down Saitama 's attack many times). I can not certainly say which is stronger.


So from what I gathered Garou's sole advantage over Boros is skill and similar-ish physicals.

 

[Andytrenom]

@Kep Wouldn't Saitama still be an unknown tier?

 

[Andytrenom]

Someone mind applying the revisions to Blast's page for me?

 

[Qawsedf234]

What would his tier be? Possibly Multi-Continent level or just Continent level?

 

[Andytrenom]

I am not not sure actually.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Unknown. Possibly 6A to High 6-A?

 

[Kepekley23]

He'd scale to Boros's CSRC since it is a God level attack (would have destroyed the Earth's surface)