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point of speed is that there really isnt any evidence he held back when killed yamamoto, where as there is evidence he held back with fb bankai ichigo
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I'm sure it is difficult to intend to keep it back. Is there anything that indicates that it is holding itself back in speed?point of speed is that there really isnt any evidence he held back when killed yamamoto, where as there is evidence he held back with fb bankai ichigo
Lmao ichigo was just holding back suppressing himself. He didn't even scale to base aizen or gin. To say he scales to 1st fusion aizen doesn't make any sense
About fb bankai ichigo reacting to yhwach...
He does so twice, but like ywhach has he was holding back at the end of the fight. Not sure if it's a fair comparison for Speed
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He says he will release his full power here
as for yamamoto, he still had enough power to try bankai again. Its also obvious the blade he used on yama is stronger than the blade he used on ichigo
I remember he blocked one or two yhwach's attacksFrom what I remember of their fight, Ichigo didn't react to or manage to fight back against Yhwach effectively at all.
He rushed in, got grabbed, tried to reach for Yhwach's eye but was deflected and then effortlessly stabbed. He then only got off a point-blank Getsuga Tensho while Yhwach was surprised at his Blut Vene, and then Yhwach easily overwhelmed him after that until it was time for him to retreat.
So I wouldn't agree with him scaling to Yhwach's speed at that point anyway.
He does wound Tenjiro too.He blocked a couple of hits and landed his own GT, doing damage with it, Ywach even says he needs his full power to defeat and take back Ichigo.
Even then that Ichigo has powerscalling from everyone and everything aside from Aizen, Ichibei, Ywach, Zaraki and his own EoS Version.
He does wound Tenjiro too.
Tenjiro doesn't scale to anything impressive.He does wound Tenjiro too.
Tenjiro doesn't scale to anything impressive.
I don't think we've ever used the multiplier for his Merged Hollow Form. I don't recall anything stating that the same multiplier applies.@Damage3245, uhh man you forgot to include the hollowfication multiplier with Ichigo lol. That’s still an accepted multiplier, you can’t just skip out on it with a higher with merged hollow form man.
99% sure the multiplier for Ichigo's mask is acceptedI don't think we've ever used the multiplier for his Merged Hollow Form. I don't recall anything stating that the same multiplier applies.
Isn't the merged hollow form technically different than just using the hollow mask99% sure the multiplier for Ichigo's mask is accepted
I guess it is the stronger version of it, because the hollowing rate is higher and makes the hollow strength much higher than the mask.Isn't the merged hollow form technically different than just using the hollow mask
For Ichigo using the mask in earlier arcs, yes, but my point was we've never used it for him one-horned hollowfying state.99% sure the multiplier for Ichigo's mask is accepted
That's not quite right IMO.Why wouldn’t we? It’s literally a more perfect version of hollowfication than the mask was and it’s a far more powerful boost in his stats than the mask. So unless you can prove that it’s weaker than the mask then there’s literally no reason to not use the multiplier. Cmon man.
Vollstandig was definitely not accepted as a multiplier.@Damage3245, but.. it’s still hollowfication. It’s was accepted that bankai, hollowfication, and I believe vollstandig we’re accepted as at least 5x to the stats it applies too.
the sandbox lacks of novel ratingsI've updated Ichigo, Orihime and Yhwach in the sandbox.
It has a couple of them in there so far, but I'll go back over the novel keys / characters and add them in today for completion.the sandbox lacks of novel ratings