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Black Hat Downgrade

Aolphl said:
Nvm, I don't understand exactly what @TheShape03 is advocating right now

Also, what will Black Hat's Tier be if there is a downgrade?
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Me neither but whatever.

Unless Laser pulls up with the Tier 4 feats at some point in the future, we'll be looking at 5-B due to all products being below Black Hat. So he would scale above the Black Hat Magisword.
 
DimeUhDozen said:
Tier 4 feats at some point in the future, we'll be looking at 5-B due to all products being below Black Hat. So he would scale above the Black Hat Magisword.
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Corrupted a sun
“Esta vez para mostrar lo que parecía ser una grabación satelital del sol, pero no era el personaje caricaturesco del show, sino el real. En un momento dado, la cámara empezó a hacer un acercamiento al sol y donde deberían estar los aros de energía incandescentes, había una especie de enormes tentáculos dentados serpenteando y retorciéndose, como si de una entidad viviente se tratara.”/

”This time to show what appeared to be a satellite recording of the sun, but it wasn't the cartoon character from the show, it was the real thing. At one point, the camera began to zoom in on the sun and where the incandescent energy rings should be, there were some sort of huge jagged tentacles wriggling and wriggling like a living entity.”
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Direct image to the corrupted sun itself:1, 2


This large size should also give tier 4

Please update the agree to disagree when you have a chance
 
DimeUhDozen said:
Well, I couldn't find the calc, damn -
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Black Hat (Villainous)

Black Hat is the primary character of Villainous. He is the leader of the Black Hat Organization, a cult like organization which helps villains. Not much is known about him aside from being a sadistic and seemingly immortal demonic entity with virtually no redeemable qualities. Tier: At least...
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Aolphl said:
vsbattles.fandom.com

Black Hat (Villainous)

Black Hat is the primary character of Villainous. He is the leader of the Black Hat Organization, a cult like organization which helps villains. Not much is known about him aside from being a sadistic and seemingly immortal demonic entity with virtually no redeemable qualities. Tier: At least...
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Yeah, I found it. I was just searching through the revised history trying to find it the first time but it's like 2 AM right now so my sleepy ass missed it.
 
DimeUhDozen said:
Yeah, I found it. I was just searching through the revised history trying to find it the first time but it's like 2 AM right now so my sleepy ass missed it.
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Damn, i went to sleep at 5 a.m. yesterday while dealing with this Crt and woke up 2 hours later and went to school 💀🤧
DimeUhDozen said:
His products are all beneath him so he should upscale from this physically.
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Then High 7-A or High 7-C or etc?
 
I go full in depth on what this ARG is here. Background info for the show itself. Then the TV show had call backs to plot in the ARG.

The size thing comes from the breakdown of VVV. While the sun corruption comes from the Creepy Charlie Blog which is in universe blog that was referenced in the website. Both easily showing tier 4 abilities and physical streangth
 
boi I have been dealing with this verses problems for weeks now, it is dead ass 4am here. The least ya could do is put the other people on the list
 
Half_Shiny said:
boi I have been dealing with this bs for weeks now, it is dead ass 4am here. The least ya could do is put the other people on the list
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Do you want me to just drop the CRT because honestly I might just be willing to do that. Keep your Tier 2.
 
Half_Shiny said:
I go full in depth on what this ARG is here. Background info for the show itself. Then the TV show had call backs to plot in the ARG.

The size thing comes from the breakdown of VVV. While the sun corruption comes from the Creepy Charlie Blog which is in universe blog that was referenced in the website. Both easily showing tier 4 abilities and physical streangth
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I have no idea, but then the profile would look like this:
At least Large Mountain level (His rage created the volcanic eruption of Pompeii), Dwarf Star level+ with Black Hat Magisword (Destroyed a planet with such force), Small Star level via Large Size (...), Multiverse level via creation (With Black Hat's Subjective Reality he was able to create a book with +3556 worlds/realities, which was recognized as different reality by a creature who tracked people when they went to different realities.[1])
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DimeUhDozen said:
Yeah, but then again, this might be a lost cause tbh. I don't see any mods coming anytime soon.
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Just harass- I mean ask the right mods and even the most obscure of verses can be reviewed! It's what I did with City of Heroes! And now I get to jam-pack the verse full of 8-C profiles nobody but me will never even use!
 
Aolphl said:
Nvm, I don't understand exactly what @TheShape03 is advocating right now
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I was arguing for the fact that base forms should be downscaled from titan forms, since, with much effort, Pops' base form momentarily stopped the blast of Anti-Pops' titan form.

However, now that I look at it properly, I find it hard to believe that Anti-Pops is using all of his power. Also, just like the original series, this is some kind of existential erasure rather than an energy blast (I was probably tired enough yesterday to notice these details on my own).

So, now I'm okay with the downgrade.
 
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DarkDragonMedeus said:
OP makes sense and Reaper's High 5-A proposal seems reasonable.
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Thanks for contribution, we also decided that the AP part should look like this (I thinks):
At least Large Mountain level (His rage created the volcanic eruption of Pompeii), Dwarf Star level+ with Black Hat Magisword (Destroyed a planet with such force), Small Star level via Large Size (He can grow his own physical form enough to be compared to a small star.), Multiverse level via creation (With Black Hat's Subjective Reality he was able to create a book with +3556 worlds/realities, which was recognized as different reality by a creature who tracked people when they went to different realities.[1])
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Aolphl said:
Thanks for contribution, we also decided that the AP part should look like this (I thinks):
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Yeah that ain't small star level should be much higher in tier 4

cause we see it straight up grabbing stars, which are MUCH smaller than it.

It should be the following


Star level (Was able to corrupt an entire sun), At least Solar System level (through size manipulation), Multiverse level via creation (With Black Hat's Subjective Reality he was able to create a book with +3556 worlds/realities, which was recognized as different reality by a creature who tracked people when they went to different realities.[1])
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I agree with Op. Black hat can never beat anti pops under normal conditions and at titan form. Anti pops was extremely weakened. The fact that anti pops wants to be black hat's apprentice does not make him inferior to black hat in terms of power. After all, we know nothing about anti pops' past power and condition. Anti Pops wanted to be as bad as him. Generally speaking, we don't have enough evidence that black hat is superior to anti pops.
 
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