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"If you don't agree with the irrefutable truth just ignore it, i know it HURT knowing they could do something like this however just pretend this doesn't exist and you will eventually forgot about it later" this is as much as denying someone is planetary even though the said character already destroyed one
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What I said but in other words
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Sigh just let it go, this is not going to get passed
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the only mod that has come here hard disagreed with you, and so has everyone else, and now, so do I. this is a rejected revision, and I will request it to be closed.
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Law manipulation. Mind manipulation.
The limited concept manip should also be removed entirely lol
The limited concept manip should also be removed entirely lol
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all those possible is because his magic directly attack the ideas of those said things and you still think it's not conceptual manipulation? 
I don't even know why you are here you clearly don't even know BC
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You don't get Concecptual manipulation for punching an AE 1 person based on a concept, you get NPI. This is basically the same thing lol
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Who said it's just about punching? See you don't even know shit lmfao Namaah and lilith destroyed/erased one through burning it while morris can alter/change concept basically manipulating it
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Wait... since you said law manipulation aren't you basically admitting that it's conceptual manipulation? I mean he change the rules of Qlipoth through changing it's concept
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Wait... since you said law manipulation aren't you basically admitting that it's conceptual manipulation? I mean he change the rules of Qlipoth through changing it's concept
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First of all, drop the tone, your sounding less like someone debating and more like a fanboy, which I know isn't exactly what your going for, but it's what your starting to sound like lol
Second of all, using a point from before, all concepts are intangible and invisible, the fact that it wasn't just stated "concepts" makes it doubtful at best these are genuine concepts they're nuking and manipulating due to the fact it has to straight up be stated they're "invisible" and "intangible", shit that shouldn't need to be stated.
also I'd like to see the raws for this translated by our own translators here, because that can very easily make or break this entire CRT, if it's the exact same, were back where we started, but it could easily remove the invisible and intangible. So that's what I say, someone gets the raws, gets them translated here, and we go from there.
Second of all, using a point from before, all concepts are intangible and invisible, the fact that it wasn't just stated "concepts" makes it doubtful at best these are genuine concepts they're nuking and manipulating due to the fact it has to straight up be stated they're "invisible" and "intangible", shit that shouldn't need to be stated.
also I'd like to see the raws for this translated by our own translators here, because that can very easily make or break this entire CRT, if it's the exact same, were back where we started, but it could easily remove the invisible and intangible. So that's what I say, someone gets the raws, gets them translated here, and we go from there.
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I'm a fanboy
You seriously need to read that chapter before saying things.
The "invisible" statement is for the fact that they can destroy the concept of nothingness and nothingness literally mean none in short it means they destroyed the concept of the thing that can't be seen while the intangible statement it's viz who added it however i kinda get the message they are trying to say is that he can affect the idea of something that can't be touched which is the dream world
I'll try linking it here
Edit however how does that change anything really?
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Okay, there are a **** ton of things that can't be seen, space, time, dimensions, we'd be here all day. And uh, that's textbook NPI dude lol
It can literally remove the mention of concepts entirely, which, ya know, breaks this CRT, but it could also remove several complaints for it and make it very hard to oppose at least Morris getting it.
It can literally remove the mention of concepts entirely, which, ya know, breaks this CRT, but it could also remove several complaints for it and make it very hard to oppose at least Morris getting it.
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First of all that's because they are using magic to interfere with the ideas/concepts of said target.
No it can't are you implying the concept in context is physical? Everyone getting it including luci since he is the reason why he can jack concept.
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Magic can literally be any hax, and any ability. Non-argument.
No, I'm saying that the very mention of concepts at all can go... poof!
Nope, still disagree, nab some weeb translators and we'll see if either of us got a pedestal to stand on lol
No, I'm saying that the very mention of concepts at all can go... poof!
Nope, still disagree, nab some weeb translators and we'll see if either of us got a pedestal to stand on lol
You don't even know BC lol
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Calling the kettle black are we? And it very easily could, or did you forget mistranslations happen?Okay at this point you are just being denial and the invisible statement won't change the fact that lilith and namaah can destroy concept
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No it won't they destroyed the world of nothingness through destroying it's idea... Sooo? And you will know the reason for invisible statement if you gon read that chapter
What do you mean by that i suppose? Are you talking about the concept statement or the invisible statement
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Mmmm, sorry, can't prove your point for you, it be your job to get scans and provide the full context lol
Yes!
Yes!
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Alright as i said above most of the concept of the objects their magic destroyed can be seen (natch magic) however the invisible statement comes from the fact after they destroyed the idea of the thing that cannot be seen i.e the world of nothingness... and for morris? It's exclusive to viz however it means his magic destroyed the concept of the object that cannot be touched i.e the world of dream all that statement is because their magic is only a physical that can damage concept.
So in short lilith & namah magic destroyed the idea of a thing that cannot be seen while morris magic alter the idea of the thing that cannot be touch however it can seen (color pink)
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Naamah (Black Clover)
Naamah (ナハマー, Nahamā?) is a supporting antagonist in the Spade Kingdom Raid Arc of Black Clover. He is one of the Supreme Devils connected to the Tree of Qliphoth and resides on the first level of the Underworld, alongside his twin, Lilith. Tier: High 6-A | High 6-A Key: Naamah | Fused with...
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Lilith has limited concept manip for the same reasons as lucifero.
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agree fra. Anybody who's against lucifero/Morris getting concept manip should make a crt and remove it off naamnah and Lilith.
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Naamah (Black Clover)
Naamah (ナハマー, Nahamā?) is a supporting antagonist in the Spade Kingdom Raid Arc of Black Clover. He is one of the Supreme Devils connected to the Tree of Qliphoth and resides on the first level of the Underworld, alongside his twin, Lilith. Tier: High 6-A | High 6-A Key: Naamah | Fused with...
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Lilith (Black Clover)
Lilith (リリス, Ririsu?) is a supporting antagonist in the Spade Kingdom Raid Arc of Black Clover. She is one of the Supreme Devils connected to the Tree of Qliphoth and resides on the first level of the Underworld, alongside her twin, Naamah. Tier: High 6-A | High 6-A Key: Lilith | Fused with...
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@KingTempest @CrimsonStarFallen @UchihaSlayer96
Would any of you be willing to evaluate this please?
Would any of you be willing to evaluate this please?
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This CRT can make that happen lol, I'll still be here lolagree fra. Anybody who's against lucifero/Morris getting concept manip should make a crt and remove it off naamnah and Lilith.
Naamah (Black Clover)
Naamah (ナハマー, Nahamā?) is a supporting antagonist in the Spade Kingdom Raid Arc of Black Clover. He is one of the Supreme Devils connected to the Tree of Qliphoth and resides on the first level of the Underworld, alongside his twin, Lilith. Tier: High 6-A | High 6-A Key: Naamah | Fused with...
Lilith (Black Clover)
Lilith (リリス, Ririsu?) is a supporting antagonist in the Spade Kingdom Raid Arc of Black Clover. She is one of the Supreme Devils connected to the Tree of Qliphoth and resides on the first level of the Underworld, alongside her twin, Naamah. Tier: High 6-A | High 6-A Key: Lilith | Fused with...
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The relevant issue is, should we add this ability to Lucifero or remove it from the other two demon profile pages? They may have had it added when the pages were created without a discussion though.
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You are probably better choices to evaluate this thread. My apologies to the staff members that I called for earlier, if they are feeling annoyed.
You are probably better choices to evaluate this thread. My apologies to the staff members that I called for earlier, if they are feeling annoyed.
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I suggest you tag the black clover experts if possible
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Better not some of them disagree with luci getting conceptual manipulation on his profile lol
And we have already discussed that
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nah reaper wanted the raws so I got them for him
and if they disagree they're free to voice they're reasons just like the ones that agree that he should get it
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I already checked the raw and i think it has invisible statement the only I'm sure that doesn't have is morris however you could send that it here to if you wanted
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Uh Houston? I want them translated by our Japanese translators here lol
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