BLACK CLOVER VS UNDERTALE: ASTA VS SANS

[Arnoldstone18]

So yeah…

Final Act Asta (base; black mode and devil union restricted)
Vs
Sans

SBA

 

[Peppersalt43]

Wait, isn't Asta's gimmick anti-magic?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Wait, isn't Asta's gimmick anti-magic?

Yah

 

[Peppersalt43]

Yah

Sans' gimmick is magic...

 

[Arnoldstone18]

What if Asta starts/stays in base?

 

[Peppersalt43]

What if Asta starts/stays in base?

Will he use the anti-magic thing less?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Will he use the anti-magic thing less?

well yeah.

he will only use sword abilities

 

[Peppersalt43]

well yeah.

he will only use sword abilities

His first key's P&A includes Anti-Magic under the Anti-Magic Swords section

 

[Arnoldstone18]

His first key's P&A includes Anti-Magic under the Anti-Magic Swords section

Yeah he’s not going to NOT use Anti Magic, just less of it than higher forms.

 

[SuperStar]

Following

 

[Arnoldstone18]

BUMP!

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Asta uses his ultimate technique of trying to convince sans that he did not accidentally kill all the underworld monsters passively

Sans uses spare, but Ki counters the obvious trap, so a good old(new) zetten slash finish the genocide run, with Chara appearing and now, Double Union Chara x Liebe is enough to destroy Lucius

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Asta uses his ultimate technique of trying to convince sans that he did not accidentally kill all the underworld monsters passively

Sans uses spare, but Ki counters the obvious trap, so a good old(new) zetten slash finish the genocide run, with Chara appearing and now, Double Union Chara x Liebe is enough to destroy Lucius

I’ll pretend I understand what you just said

 

[ShionAH]

Can they dodge sans level danmaku?

 

[Epiccheev]

Probably. But Asta can just nullify it by cutting or baseball batting his projectiles away with the sides of the blade.
Unless someone wants to argue Sans just spawns the projectiles inside him or holds him still with soul based TK so he can't dodge, or teleports him directly into attacks

 

[ShionAH]

Unless someone wants to argue Sans just spawns the projectiles inside him or holds him still with soul based TK so he can't dodge, or teleports him directly into attacks

I mean if sans sees him just destroy his attack why wont he? LOL

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

or teleports him directly into attacks

Something he never did against Frisk when Frisk was a menace to the whole timeline

 

[ShionAH]

Something he never did against Frisk when Frisk was a menace to the whole timeline

Would you want to play against sans when he teleports you into the attack instead of near them? We both know the answer

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Unless someone wants to argue Sans just spawns the projectiles inside him or holds him still with soul based TK so he can't dodge, or teleports him directly into attacks

This is always the argument for Sans, it's kind of funny though.

Something he never did against Frisk when Frisk was a menace to the whole timeline

True that.

 

[ShionAH]

Sans matchups:
1- OP character who gets oneshot and loses
2- Timestopper
3- Good dodger

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Sans matchups:
1- OP character who gets oneshot and loses
2- Timestopper
3- Good dodger

He hasn't touched my favorite verses ( One Piece, Kirby etc ) so I'm safe

 

[ShionAH]

He hasn't touched my favorite verse ( One Piece, Kirby etc ) so I'm safe

because kirby would eat his ass hmm but One Piece might be intresting

 

[ShionAH]

One Piece

do you have a good One Piece character for sans? I think there was a skeleton dude

 

[DaMonkeMan]

because kirby would eat his ass

Sounds hot..

hmm but One Piece might be intresting

One Piece IS focused on characters with strong willpower which might slightly counter the soul hax
But then, they kind of stomp due to several hax like Forcefield Creation, Attack Reflection and nutty precog.

do you have a good One Piece character for sans? I think there was a skeleton dude

Brook? He actually does have a soul focused ability, hard to explain but he might be a good matchup.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Would you want to play against sans when he teleports you into the attack instead of near them? We both know the answer

Yes, I want hard bosses

Sans never teleport you into attacks

 

[ShionAH]

Yes, I want hard bosses

That would make sans impossible lol also sans is pretty standart hard

Sans never teleport you into attacks

he does actually but he still gives you a dodging chance for the obvious reason

One Piece IS focused on characters with strong willpower which might slightly counter the soul hax
But then, they kind of stomp due to several hax like Forcefield Creation, Attack Reflection and nutty precog.

Hmm yeah I saw that but that just makes the fights better

Brook? He actually does have a soul focused ability, hard to explain but he might be a good matchup.

Yeah actually but we might need to use pre time skip since post time skip might be a stomp but Idk the character so lol

 

[ShionAH]

Wait brook vs sans already happened lol nvm it was an incon

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Wait brook vs sans already happened lol nvm it was an incon

Anyway, what are the wincons for each side?

 

[ShionAH]

Black Clover dodges everything then wastes sans stamina and wins
Sans does the funny hit thing and wins

 

[Epiccheev]

Asta dodges the physical space he resides in and then Zettens Sans to death.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Black Clover dodges everything then wastes sans stamina and wins

Or Asta with Telekinesis plus ki, attacks the place where Sans teleport himself, breaking the game itself, then he face Asgore, summons Chara and...

 

[ShionAH]

If he has telekinesis and big AoE then its a stomp, Idk the other character and the profile is too long lol

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

telekinesis and big AoE

His telekinesis only works on his swords

Big AoE is debatable because maybe black divider is also banned in this match, but is just his sword becoming extremely large, he still has to move it, is not a big explosion

 

[ShionAH]

His telekinesis only works on his swords

Oh that makes sense

Big AoE is debatable because maybe black divider is also banned in this match, but is just his sword becoming extremely large, he still has to move it, is not a big explosion

Ooh then its not a stomp. So does he have an attack that sans cannot dodge? Can he dodge gaster blasters which will be faster than his speed?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I don't know who to vote lol

 

[ShionAH]

It really depends on Astas skill on dodging I might vote incon tbh both seem likely to win

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Can he dodge gaster blasters which will be faster than his speed?

He has precognition, can sense the intention of enemies, has fought against danmaku users before, even without Ki he was able to repel multiple proyectiles even when his large sword was reducing his speed, now he has 2 (4 if he wants to use telekinesis) and the large sword does not reduce his speed, and has even better precog because his Ki is now way better

And he could still fight against someone who can ignore his precognition and still be able to dodge extremely well, plus his movements are impossible to predict even by others precognition users

And Zetten boost his attack speed

 

[ShionAH]

He has precognition, can sense the intention of enemies, has fought against danmaku users before, even without Ki he was able to repel multiple proyectiles even when his large sword was reducing his speed, now he has 2 (4 if he wants to use telekinesis) and the large sword does not reduce his speed, and has even better precog because his Ki is now way better

Cool but frisk who has insane skill at dodging is supposed to have a hard time against sans and I don't think he fought someone who slams you down and makes random moves while slamming you down and spamming gaster blasters which can hit him since they are faster and 1 hit from them will be fatal since unlike the bones they have a bigger radius

And he could still fight against someone who can ignore his precognition and still be able to dodge extremely well, plus his movements are impossible to predict even by others precognition users

His movement being hard to predict doesn't really matter since sans has reaction speed needed and can attack whilst dodging

And Zetten boost his attack speed

How much exactly?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

How much exactly?

10 to 100 times

 

[ShionAH]

10 to 100 times

That might be a trouble how does it work exactly? Would he survive long enough for it to make a difference?