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Bioshock Discussion Thread

Why don't we note that Subject Delta's Hypnosis is Layered Mind Manipulation? The first two levels don't work on Big Daddies but the third level does.
 
Why don't we note that Subject Delta's Hypnosis is Layered Mind Manipulation? The first two levels don't work on Big Daddies but the third level does.
Because his profile is massively out of date.
Genuinly saddening that the Splicers Page is the most updated one, but I am currently working on a Fontaine Page as well as trying to get a few more 8-C calcs for Plasmids. Hopefully, I can argue UES or something similar.
 
Because his profile is massively out of date.
Genuinly saddening that the Splicers Page is the most updated one, but I am currently working on a Fontaine Page as well as trying to get a few more 8-C calcs for Plasmids. Hopefully, I can argue UES or something similar.
If you do then add Delta's layer as a minor thing alongside that since it really is a small detail in the grand scheme of things. Also whoever put Insect Swarm on Delta's profile misspelled Insect as Incest twice in his Plasmid Tab. 😭
 
If you do then add Delta's layer as a minor thing alongside that since it really is a small detail in the grand scheme of things. Also whoever put Insect Swarm on Delta's profile misspelled Insect as Incest twice in his Plasmid Tab. 😭
Damn didn't know Delta Did Elenaor like that.
But Yeah I plan to redo one of my calcs and add another.
Then get Frank Fontaine, Big Daddy, and Jack done in that order.
 
Will any of those radically change Delta's current tier? I ask because I want to use him in versus threads.
 
Hopefully, we get him to 8-C from upscaling Bio1. We can add Hyperonsic C/R Speed tho. He should massively upscale from base Bioshock 1 Splicers.
Agreed. I'm honestly surprised he didn't one-shot that dude who hypnotized him when he was basically ass dude without any mutations aside from Electro Bolt and Hypnotize 3. Also I think Delta should get some minor degree of Supernatural Willpower since he's the only character to have shown push back against orders given to him without outright breaking the control. That and he alongside Jack should get resurrection via the Vita Chambers. He canonically resurrects from one after all, meaning that wasn't just a gameplay mechanic for convenience sake. It also means he can't really die from being murdered unless you take out Eleanor. Speaking of which, Delta only gets his Eleanor Plasmid when he's already dying, so should get a second key for that point in the game since it contradicts his normal performance otherwise?
 
Agreed. I'm honestly surprised he didn't one-shot that dude who hypnotized him when he was basically ass dude without any mutations aside from Electro Bolt and Hypnotize 3.
According to the books, people were already mixing in sport stims with their Plasmids. So while they can't hurt a big daddy, they could survive them.
Also I think Delta should get some minor degree of Supernatural Willpower since he's the only character to have shown push back against orders given to him without outright breaking the control. That and he alongside Jack should get resurrection via the Vita Chambers. He canonically resurrects from one after all, meaning that wasn't just a gameplay mechanic for convenience sake. It also means he can't really die from being murdered unless you take out Eleanor. Speaking of which, Delta only gets his Eleanor Plasmid when he's already dying, so should get a second key for that point in the game since it contradicts his normal performance otherwise?
Possibly. I would have to replay Bioshock 2 again.
 
Nothing huge, but I have found the official heights of one of the Big Daddies - the Rosie:

The 1/4 Scale is 21 Inches.
21 * 4 = 84 Inches = 2.1336 Meters (7 Feet)
Keep in mind Rosies are smaller than Subject Delta

(Ghost Story Games is just Irrational Games. Ken Levine is still in charge btw)
How does this change any of our calcs we currently have? Does it alter the Telekinesis door tearing feat since Delta is basically pulled through it with said door and just kinda no-sells it?
 
How does this change any of our calcs we currently have? Does it alter the Telekinesis door tearing feat since Delta is basically pulled through it with said door and just kinda no-sells it?
Most likely. Since we can use that to find the height of other characters. It is even possible that Subject Delta is way bigger than 7 ft 1in
 
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