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When has he done this?
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Bill vs. Dante
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Literally at the beginning of Weirdmageddon
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And again, I keep my sentiment. Bill repeatedly snaps until something works. Dante doesn't have that luxury as he needs to not only seal, but shoot to seal.
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>Bill can't do anything without a physical body
If this is true, then Dante seals before Bill gets his body back. As of his regen, it seems to be really inconsistent, so I believe this is either a win for Dante or inconclusive.
If this is true, then Dante seals before Bill gets his body back. As of his regen, it seems to be really inconsistent, so I believe this is either a win for Dante or inconclusive.
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@Elizhaa That's just BFR and pocket reality manipulation.
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Why does he even regenerate a physical body if he doesn't need it?
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The way I see it Bill will start with a snap. He gets one-shotted by Dante.
Now it's a matter of Bill's snap vs the speed of Dante's sealing.
Bill's snap should be faster to try and incap as fast as possible against someone who's just obliterated him. He will be more serious then he ever has been. You guys have seen a serious and desperate Bill before he doesn't play around.
So I'm inclined to believe he snaps and incaps with Sleep Inducement which should be faster than sealing. So I vote Bill.
Now it's a matter of Bill's snap vs the speed of Dante's sealing.
Bill's snap should be faster to try and incap as fast as possible against someone who's just obliterated him. He will be more serious then he ever has been. You guys have seen a serious and desperate Bill before he doesn't play around.
So I'm inclined to believe he snaps and incaps with Sleep Inducement which should be faster than sealing. So I vote Bill.
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It's just proving that Bill isn't powerless without a physical body.
It's just proving that Bill isn't powerless without a physical body.
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The point is he can influence reality without a body.Schnee One said:
Regenerating doesn't disprove that.
Characters who can survive as a soul still regenerate.
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Why would Bill try and use something to incap someone when he will try to kill it first and foremost?
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Just one little nitpick, Bill's regen is through his mind, not his soul.EmperorRorepme said:
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As I just said he will incap because he cannot kill it. He's just been obliterated physically. So to avoid danger he incaps.
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From what I know, Transmutation can be incapacition and Bill used a lot for incapacitation.Tony di bugalu said:
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True. Bill didn't try to kill Mabel when he put her to sleep, he just wanted to trap her in a place where her dreams became reality.
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@Elizhaa Dante resists transmutation.
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The main point is that characters that don't need a body still regenerate to have a body. Generally it's more convienient.
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....How does transmuting someone not kill?
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9-5 now.
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More specialized versions can turn forcibly transmute or transform targets into other inanimate objects or vastly weaker beings (i.e. a common toad), effectively incapacitating or killing them.Schnee One said:
My serious though is that it depend on the context of verse. Sometimes, transmutted characters can turn shortly back to normal and other time, these characters can't and are effectively dead.
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Dante doesn't resist Bill's Matter Manipulation, by the way.
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I'm still struggling to even see the legitimacy behind Dante's votes. He has sealed once and would never start with it and Bill can literally snap and put him to sleep or a multitude of different things
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Oh, so he never used it to kill/attack something, good to know.JooCipher said:
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TFW this is to other way around, specially since Bill never uses hax in any fight he has been in, never. Call it PIS, call it CIS or whatever other way you want. When he decides is time to do something that Dante doesn't resist and he ACTUALLY showed to be able to do instead of bluffing his own ass it will be too late.TheArsenal1212 said:
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Bill isn't stupid. Even if he did start with AP, he would notice it does't work. The he'll go for incap, which he can definitely do to Dante. Also, Dante never leads with Sealing, and it would be a while before he uses it. Bill would have plenty of time to use various means for incap. Bill was also, like in 3 fights the entire show, so he hasn't really shown what he does in a fight.
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And Bill usually leads with a snap (He only leads with AP against things he knows are a threat). Since Bill has no prior knowledge, he just thinks Dante is another puny human, and as such would likely lead with a snap.
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I mean what fight in character? Bill used his haxes when he does even not have to fight like turning most of the town into statues for his gian chair. The disintegration of Time Baby could be Hax since Bill turned Time's Baby into molecules. The Shacktron had a barrier from Standford that nullified Bill's powers against it. Regarding the other case, he easily transmutted others to prevent his sealing from the Weirdness Circle.
He didn't hax the kids because he wanted Ford's help and if he didn't get he was going to kill them.
He didn't hax the kids because he wanted Ford's help and if he didn't get he was going to kill them.
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Bill destroying Time Baby was just AP.
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Bill is baseline. How does Bill have the AP advantage?
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Still 9-5 and we've got about 3 hours left before grace is up.
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Grace doesn't mean much if there's a discussion going on.
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The shacktron begs to differ, the first thing Bill tried was to destroy it with his raw AP.Unoriginal Memes said:
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Bill didn't knew the shack had a barrier, he first tried to crush it. That point falls apart.Elizhaa said:
All the fights Bill had he just went for lolAP, and since nothing can tank it he always won, never used hax.
AP, especially with a gap as big as the one between Time Baby and Bill is enough to atomize TB, dunno why people think it is hax.
Yeah, yeah, he uses transmutation, good thing Dante resist it.
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