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casual encounter
speed equalized
chara has pacifist frisk soul
speed equalized
chara has pacifist frisk soul
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bill vs chara
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Chara stomps restricted Bill and gets stomped by full power Bill. It doesn't matter which form is being used, this is a stomp.
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isnt the content reviusioin talking bout how restiction only affected his speed? also, shouldent the 11d be an outlier?Paulo.junior.969 said:
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The revision didn't end yet, and as for now, we still have to use the page as it is, the best thing to do in cases like this is not make a match with the character until the revision ends. Also, right now, full power Bill is still listed as 2-A, 11-D has nothing to do with him stomping Chara.
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sdoes he have a way to kill though?Paulo.junior.969 said:
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I don't know, but Chara isn't damaging a 2-A any time soon.
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shouldent soul manipulation damage it?Paulo.junior.969 said:
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Not unless Chara's soul hax was shown to work on a 2-A.
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how does being 2-a disable soul manipulation? charas soul manipulation was able to permanently get frisks soul, despite the game being deleted, and said soul was able to whistand asriel fullpower.Paulo.junior.969 said:
he shoul be able to get bills soul eventualy, whit bill having no way to kill them. they also have the ability to connect to others soul (friskes save from asriel fight)
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Being 2-A protects you from Chara's soul damage in the same way being really durable protects you from a punch, the soul damage is so insignificant in comparison to you that it can't even affect you. Also, for Frisk to have 2-A durability thry need immense amounts of Determination.
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soul=/=body if goku were to behit by soul manipulators hed be hurt despite being extremly strongerPaulo.junior.969 said:
kind of like asriel being weak to mind manipulation
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Alright, by that logic, Chara Vs a 1-A character, the 1-A character may have a durable body, but he has no soul defence, so, Chara wins. Get what I mean?
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so his immune to it for no reason? a 1a could just erase them.Paulo.junior.969 said:
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No, he's not immune, it's just that there isn't any proof that Chara's soul hax is powerful enough to affect an 2-A.
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so sans can hit goku endlessly whitout effect? if somone doesent have soul manipulation immunity it a moot point.Paulo.junior.969 said:
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There is proof that Sans' hax is strong enough to work on the likes of Goku, because it worked on Chara, who is way above Goku. There's no reason to assume that Chara's soul hax can affect someone litrally infinite times above them with no proof.
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it never worked on chara, it worked on frisk, who is city level at most in geno at that pointPaulo.junior.969 said:
becase said infinity doesent affect body, much like no one says that asreil cant be mind raped by somone good enough, even if tiers uner him
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So you think Chara can damage 1-A characters because only their bodies are durable? Do you know what No Limits Fallacy means?
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Someone simply close this...
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yes, nor do i belive that, however bill is ridiculosly weaker than that and its mindscaper is called a ghost by himself, and when destroyed he died as wellPaulo.junior.969 said:
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And Chara is ridiculously weaker than Bill, and has never shown the ability to affect anything on that level. Saying Chara can affect Bill and saying Chara can affect an 1-A are basically the same thing, since there's no proof that she can do either.
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frisk affected asriel via save and a minderaser affected mindscaperPaulo.junior.969 said:
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Frisk couldn't affect Asriel in any way, no matter how many times you attack, it does nothing, Frisk never defeated Asriel, Asriel decided to stop by himself. Also, being erased is one of Bill's weaknesses, soul hax isn't, it's on Bill's page, read it.
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save dude, save affected theyre soul. chara erased the entire gamePaulo.junior.969 said:
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Undertale doesn't have infinite timelines, so, erasing the entire game means nothing, and did you even fight Asriel? Save didn't do anything to him, he stoped because he wanted to. So, yeah, Chara can't do shit to Bill.
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it enterd theyre soul and made them start crying and break emotionly downPaulo.junior.969 said:
the eraser gun didnt erase infinite timlines either, and chara can attack his ghost directly, which died by, at maximum, a universe worth of destruction(one mind)
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Chara doesn't have Void Manipulation. So, yeah, Bill stomps, close this.
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I am beting on bill because of his powers and is less insane than clara so better thinking skills and plan but bill is more evil than clara.
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how does he gets past the immortality tho? especialy type 6Edwardtruong2006 said:
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yes it does. it always did.DMB 1 said:
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and cells have durability, naruto can still ignore durability to an extenct. the durability of souls does not concide with the phisical dura, and attacking them ignores things such as armors, so its durability negation
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in:Powers and Abilities
Durability Negation
VIEW SOURCE SHARE---- [1]Wally West uses Speed Steal.
Summary
The ability that allows users to damage the target, regardless of its durability. In particular, enables causing serious damage to a very strong opponent, even in the absence of large attack potency. A good example of ignoring the strength would be a laser, which at negligible attack potency, easily cuts through thick steel sheets.
Types
Durability Negation
VIEW SOURCE SHARE---- [1]Wally West uses Speed Steal.
Summary
The ability that allows users to damage the target, regardless of its durability. In particular, enables causing serious damage to a very strong opponent, even in the absence of large attack potency. A good example of ignoring the strength would be a laser, which at negligible attack potency, easily cuts through thick steel sheets.
Types
- Soul Manipulation - Those who manipulate souls, can bypass conventional durability. It can be resisted only by the strength of the soul. However, such attacks are effective only on those who have souls. Also, if for some reason soul manipulation fails, then this ability is completely futile.
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Nobody said that.DMB 1 said:
Did somebody even mention soul manip here?
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Chara hasn´t even shown offensive soul manip.
The best I can remeber was taking Frisk soul after they agreed.
The best I can remeber was taking Frisk soul after they agreed.
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No one used it in an argument for iffensive, just that bill would sell theyre soul just to get type 8 immortality from chara willinly
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